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A '''Don Page comma''' or '''bimodular comma''' is a [[comma]] computed from two other intervals by the method suggested by the Don Page paper, [http://arxiv.org/abs/0907.5249 ''Why the Kirnberger Kernel Is So Small'']. If ''a'' and ''b'' are two rational numbers greater than 1, define <math>r=\frac{\left(a-1\right)\left(b+1\right)}{\left(a+1\right)\left(b-1\right)}</math>. If we write ''r'' reduced to lowest terms as ''p''/''q'', the Don Page comma is defined as DPC(''a'', ''b'') = {{nowrap| ''a''<sup>''q''</sup>/''b''<sup>''p''</sup> }}, or else the reciprocal of that if it is less than 1. We may also express it in monzo form as ''q'''''u''' - ''p'''''v''' for ''a'' and ''b'' written in [[monzo]] form as '''u''' and '''v'''
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By a //Don Page comma// is meant a comma computed from two other intervals by the method suggested by the Don Page paper, [[http://arxiv.org/abs/0907.5249|Why the Kirnberger Kernel Is So Small]]. If a and b are two rational numbers &gt; 1, define r = ((a-1)(b+1)) / ((b-1)(a+1)). Suppose r reduced to lowest terms is p/q, and a and b are written in [[Monzos|monzo]] form as u and v. Then the Don Page comma is defined as DPC(a, b) = qu - pv, or else minus that if the size in cents is less than zero. The reason for introducing monzos is purely numerical; if monzos are not used the numerators and denominators of the Don Page comma quickly become so large they cannot easily be handled. In ratio form, the Don Page comma can be written a^q / b^p, or the reciprocal of that if that is less than 1.


If we write r as ((a-1)/(a+1)) / ((b-1)/(b+1)), then depending on common factors we have that the corresponding Don Page comma is equal to an nth power of a^((b-1)/(b+1)) / b^((a-1)/(a+1)) for some n. If we set a = 1+x, b = 1+y, then r = r(x, y) is an analytic function of two complex variables with a power series expansion around x=0, y=0. This expansion begans as r(x, y) = 1 - (xy^3 - x^3y)/24 + (3xy^4 + x^2y^3 - x^3y^2 - 3x^4y)/48 + ..., with its first nonconstant term of total degree four, and so when x and y are small, r(x, y) will be close to 1. If n is not 1, the nth power will still be close to 1, and if there are common factors in the denominators of the exponents, the resulting comma will be less complex (lower in height), and this is the really interesting case. For example, if a = 7/6 and b = 27/25, we obtain (7/6)^(1/26) / (27/25)^(1/13), the lcm of 13 and 26 is 26, and taking the 26th power gives us 4375/4374. The common factor of 13 leads to the resulting comma (4375/4374) being relatively simple.  
== Bimodular approximants ==
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If ''x'' is near to 1, then ln(''x'')/2 is approximated by {{nowrap| bim(''x'') {{=}} (''x'' - 1)/(''x'' + 1) }}, the bimodular approximant function, which is the {{w|Padé approximant}} of order (1, 1) to ln(''x'')/2 near 1. The bimodular approximant function is a {{w|Möbius transformation}} and hence has an inverse, which we denote {{nowrap| mib(''x'') {{=}} (1 + ''x'')/(1 - ''x'') }}, which is the (1, 1) Padé approximant around 0 for exp(2''x''). Then {{nowrap| bim(exp(2''x'')) {{=}} tanh(''x'') }}, and therefore {{nowrap| ln(mib(''x''))/2 {{=}} artanh(''x'') {{=}} ''x'' + ''x''<sup>3</sup>/''x'' + ''x''<sup>5</sup>/5 + … }}, from which it is apparent that bim(''x'') approximates ln(''x'')/2, and mib(''x'') approximates exp(2''x''), to the second order; we may draw the same conclusion by directly comparing the series for exp(2''x'') = 1 + 2''x'' + 2''x''<sup>2</sup> + O(''x''<sup>3</sup>) with {{nowrap| mib(''x'') {{=}} 1 + 2''x'' + 2''x''<sup>2</sup> + O(''x''<sup>3</sup>) }} and {{nowrap| ln(''x'')/2 {{=}} (''x'' - 1)/2 - (''x'' - 1)<sup>2</sup>/4 + O(''x''<sup>3</sup>) }}, which is the same to the second order as bim(''x''). Using mib, we may also define {{nowrap| BMC(''a'', ''b'') = DPC(mib(''a''), mib(''b'')) }}, where BMC is an acronym for ''bimodular comma''.


It should be noted that a more general procedure for finding a comma from two intervals a and b is to use the convergents of the ratio of the logarithms; the Don Page construction might be regarded as a way pointing to examples where this is especially interesting. We might also note that successive superparticular ratios such as 10/9 and 11/10 or 12/11 and 13/12 exhibit a distinct tendency to produce strong (in the sense of low badness figures for the corresponding temperament) Don Page commas, not surprising when we note that in this case the first non-constant term of the one-variable expansion is of order five, but these are by no means the only examples.
If ''r'' is as above we have that {{nowrap| ''r'' {{=}} bim(''a'')/bim(''b'') }}, and depending on common factors the corresponding Don Page comma is equal to an ''n''-th power of {{nowrap| ''a''<sup>bim(''b'')</sup> / ''b''<sup>bim(''a'')</sup> {{=}} mib('''u''')<sup>'''v'''</sup>/mib('''v''')<sup>'''u'''</sup> }} for some ''n''. If we set ''a'' = 1 + ''x'', ''b'' = 1 + ''y'', then ''r'' = ''r''(''x'', ''y'') is an analytic function of two complex variables with a power series expansion around {{nowrap| ''x'' {{=}} 0 }}, {{nowrap| ''y'' {{=}} 0 }}. This expansion begins as ''r''(''x'', ''y'') = 1 - (''xy''<sup>3</sup> - ''x''<sup>3</sup>''y'')/24 + (3''xy''<sup>4</sup> + ''x''<sup>2</sup>''y''<sup>3</sup> - ''x''<sup>3</sup>''y''<sup>2</sup> - 3''x''<sup>4</sup>''y'')/48 + …, with its first nonconstant term of total degree four, and so when ''x'' and ''y'' are small, ''r''(''x'', ''y'') will be close to 1. The ''n''-th power will still be close to 1, and if there are common factors in the denominators of the exponents, the resulting comma will be less complex (lower in height), and this is the really interesting case. For example, if ''a'' = 7/6 and ''b'' = 27/25, we obtain (7/6)<sup>1/26</sup>/(27/25)<sup>1/13</sup>, the lcm of 13 and 26 is 26, and taking the 26th power gives us 4375/4374. The common factor of 13 leads to the resulting comma (4375/4374) being relatively simple.  


Here are some 5-limit Don Page commas:
What is going on here becomes clearer if we shift to BMC rather than DPC. If bim(''x'') was an exact logarithmic function rather than an approximation, then the Don Page commas would all be 1. They measure the deviation between an approximate relationship between intervals and an exact one. For example, {{nowrap| bim(11/9) {{=}} 1/10 }} and {{nowrap| bim(3/2) = 1/5 }}, and two 11/9 intervals fall short of 3/2 by {{nowrap|(3/2)/(11/9)<sup>2</sup> {{=}} BMC(1/10, 1/5) {{=}} 243/242 }}. Not all relationships between intervals of this sort arise from bimodular approximation. The syntonic comma, 81/80, is how much two 9/8 intervals exceed 5/4, and how much two 10/9 intervals fall short of it. But {{nowrap| bim(10/9) {{=}} 1/19 }} and {{nowrap| bim(9/8) {{=}} 1/17 }}, neither of which will add up to {{nowrap| bim(5/4) {{=}} 1/9 }}. Instead {{nowrap| mib(1/18) {{=}} 19/17 }} will give {{nowrap| BMC(1/18, 1/9) {{=}} 1445/1444 }}, a whole other deal. To get 81/80, note that {{nowrap| bim(4/3) {{=}} 1/7 }} and {{nowrap| bim(9/5) {{=}} 2/7 }}, and {{nowrap| BMC(1/7, 2/7) {{=}} 81/80 }}.


DPC(5/3, 3) = 27/25
For {{nowrap| ''n'' > 1 }} {{nowrap| BMC(1/''n'', 1/(2''n'')) }} goes 27/25, 50/49, 245/243, 243/242, 847/845, 676/675, 2025/2023, 1445/1444, 3971/3969, 2646/2645, 6877/6875, 4375/4374, 10935/10933, 6728/6727, 16337/16335, 9801/9800, 23275/23273, 13690/13689, 31941/31939…, with {{nowrap| BMC(1/13, 1/26) }} being our example 4375/4374. Similarly, {{nowrap| BMC(1/''n'', 1/(3''n'')) }} goes 375/343, 128/125, 6655/6591, 1029/1024, 34391/34295, 4000/3993, 109503/109375, 10985/10976, 268279/268119, 24576/24565, …, and {{nowrap| BMC(2/''n'', 3/''n'') }} goes 49/27, 432/343, 9/8, 3125/2916, 3267/3125, 1372/1331, 1352/1323, 35721/35152, 3125/3087, 85184/84375, 7803/7744, 19773/19652, 123823/123201, 337500/336091, 3136/3125, ….
DPC(4/3, 5/2) = 135/128
DPC(5/3, 2) = 648/625
DPC(4/3, 9/5) = 81/80
DPC(5/4, 2) = 128/125
DPC(4/3, 5/3) = 16875/16384, negri
DPC(3/2, 5/3) = 20000/19683, tetracot
DPC(10/9, 32/25) = |8 14 -13&gt;, parakleisma
DPC(5/4, 4/3) = |32 -7 -9&gt;, escapade
DPC(6/5, 5/4) = |-29 -11 20&gt;, gammic
DPC(10/9, 9/8) = |-70 72 -19&gt;
DPC(81/80, 25/24) = |71 -99 37&gt;, raider
DPC(81/80, 128/125) = |161 -84 -12&gt;, the atom


Here are some 7-limit Don Page commas:
We might also note that successive superparticular ratios such as 10/9 and 11/10 or 12/11 and 13/12 exhibit a some tendency to produce strong (in the sense of low badness figures for the corresponding temperament) Don Page commas, not surprising when we note that in this case the first non-constant term of the one-variable expansion is of order five.


DPC(7/5, 2) = 50/49
== Examples ==
DPC(6/5, 7/4) = 875/864
=== 5-limit commas ===
DPC(7/5, 5/3) = 3125/3087
* DPC(5/3, 3) = BMC(1/2, 1/4) = 27/25
DPC(9/7, 5/3) = 245/243
* DPC(4/3, 5/2) = BMC(1/7, 3/7) = 135/128
DPC(7/6, 8/5) = 1728/1715
* DPC(5/3, 2) = BMC(1/2, 1/3) = 648/625
DPC(8/7, 3/2) = 1029/1024
* DPC(4/3, 9/5) = BMC(1/7, 2/7) = 81/80
DPC(5/4, 7/5) = 3136/3125
* DPC(5/4, 2) = BMC(1/9, 1/5) = 128/125
DPC(9/8, 10/7) = 5120/5103
* DPC(4/3, 5/3) = BMC(1/7, 1/4) = 16875/16384, negri comma
DPC(27/25, 7/6) = 4375/4374
* DPC(3/2, 5/3) = BMC(1/5, 1/4) = 20000/19683, tetracot comma
* DPC(10/9, 32/25) = BMC(1/19, 7/57) = {{monzo| 8 14 -13 }}, parakleisma
* DPC(5/4, 4/3) = BMC(1/9, 1/7) = {{monzo| 32 -7 -9 }}, escapade comma
* DPC(6/5, 5/4) = BMC(1/11, 1/9) = {{monzo| -29 -11 20 }}, gammic comma
* DPC(10/9, 9/8) = BMC(1/19, 1/17) = {{monzo| -70 72 -19 }}
* DPC(81/80, 25/24) = BMC(1/161, 1/49) = {{monzo| 71 -99 37 }}, raider comma
* DPC(81/80, 128/125) = BMC(1/161, 3/253) = {{monzo| 161 -84 -12 }}, atom


From 11-limit consonances:
=== 7-limit commas ===
* DPC(7/5, 2) = BMC(1/6, 1/3) = 50/49
* DPC(6/5, 7/4) = BMC(1/11, 3/11) = 875/864
* DPC(7/5, 5/3) = BMC(1/6, 1/4) = 3125/3087
* DPC(9/7, 5/3) = BMC(1/8, 1/4) = 245/243
* DPC(7/6, 8/5) = BMC(1/13, 3/13) = 1728/1715
* DPC(8/7, 3/2) = BMC(1/15, 1/5) = 1029/1024
* DPC(5/4, 7/5) = BMC(1/9, 1/6) = 3136/3125
* DPC(9/8, 10/7) = BMC(1/17, 3/17) = 5120/5103
* DPC(27/25, 7/6) = BMC(1/26, 1/13) = 4375/4374


DPC(11/10, 4/3) = 4000/3993
=== 11-limit commas ===
DPC(10/9, 11/8) = 8019/8000
* DPC(11/10, 4/3) = BMC(1/21, 1/7) = 4000/3993
DPC(11/9, 3/2) = 243/242
* DPC(10/9, 11/8) = BMC(1/19, 3/19) = 8019/8000
DPC(5/4, 11/7) = 176/175
* DPC(11/9, 3/2) = BMC(1/10, 1/5) = 243/242
DPC(8/7, 11/9) = 41503/41472
* DPC(5/4, 11/7) = BMC(1/9, 2/9) = 176/175
* DPC(8/7, 11/9) = BMC(1/15, 1/10) = 41503/41472


From 15-limit consonances:
=== 13-limit commas ===
* DPC(15/14, 16/13) = 43904/43875
* DPC(14/13, 5/4) = 10985/10976
* DPC(11/10, 15/13) = 225000/224939
* DPC(15/13, 4/3) = 676/675
* DPC(13/11, 7/5) = 847/845
* DPC(6/5, 13/9) = 325/324


DPC(15/14, 16/13) = 43904/43875
Here are some complex Don Page commas derived from other commas:
DPC(14/13, 5/4) = 10985/10976
DPC(11/10, 15/13) = 225000/224939
DPC(15/13, 4/3) = 676/675
DPC(13/11, 7/5) = 847/845
DPC(6/5, 13/9) = 325/324


Here are some complex Don Page commas derived from other commas:
* DPC(525/512, 245/243) = {{monzo| -153 277 -18 -87 }}
* DPC(49/48, 50/49) = {{monzo| -487 -97 -198 392 }}
* DPC(10/9, 11/10) = {{monzo| 40 -38 40 0 -21 }}
* DPC(11/10, 12/11) = {{monzo| -67 -23 -21 0 44 }}
* DPC(77/75, 245/243) = {{monzo| 0 286 -99 -103 19 }}
* DPC(55/54, 56/55) = {{monzo| -442 -327 220 -111 220 }}
* DPC(176/175, 540/539) = {{monzo| -58 -249 -137 139 110 }}


DPC(525/512, 245/243) = |-153 277 -18 -87&gt;
[[Category:Comma]]
DPC(49/48, 50/49) = |-487 -97 -198 392&gt;
[[Category:Method]]
DPC(10/9, 11/10) = |40 -38 40 0 -21&gt;
DPC(11/10, 12/11) = |-67 -23 -21 0 44&gt;
DPC(77/75, 245/243) = |0 286 -99 -103 19&gt;
DPC(55/54, 56/55) = |-442 -327 220 -111 220&gt;
DPC(176/175, 540/539) = |-58 -249 -137 139 110&gt;</pre></div>
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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;width:200%;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">&lt;html&gt;&lt;head&gt;&lt;title&gt;Don Page comma&lt;/title&gt;&lt;/head&gt;&lt;body&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextLocalImageRule:0:&amp;lt;div style=&amp;quot;text-align: center&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;img src=&amp;quot;/file/view/mathhazard.jpg&amp;quot; alt=&amp;quot;&amp;quot; title=&amp;quot;&amp;quot; /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center"&gt;&lt;img src="/file/view/mathhazard.jpg" alt="mathhazard.jpg" title="mathhazard.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextLocalImageRule:0 --&gt;By a &lt;em&gt;Don Page comma&lt;/em&gt; is meant a comma computed from two other intervals by the method suggested by the Don Page paper, &lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://arxiv.org/abs/0907.5249" rel="nofollow"&gt;Why the Kirnberger Kernel Is So Small&lt;/a&gt;. If a and b are two rational numbers &amp;gt; 1, define r = ((a-1)(b+1)) / ((b-1)(a+1)). Suppose r reduced to lowest terms is p/q, and a and b are written in &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Monzos"&gt;monzo&lt;/a&gt; form as u and v. Then the Don Page comma is defined as DPC(a, b) = qu - pv, or else minus that if the size in cents is less than zero. The reason for introducing monzos is purely numerical; if monzos are not used the numerators and denominators of the Don Page comma quickly become so large they cannot easily be handled. In ratio form, the Don Page comma can be written a^q / b^p, or the reciprocal of that if that is less than 1.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
If we write r as ((a-1)/(a+1)) / ((b-1)/(b+1)), then depending on common factors we have that the corresponding Don Page comma is equal to an nth power of a^((b-1)/(b+1)) / b^((a-1)/(a+1)) for some n. If we set a = 1+x, b = 1+y, then r = r(x, y) is an analytic function of two complex variables with a power series expansion around x=0, y=0. This expansion begans as r(x, y) = 1 - (xy^3 - x^3y)/24 + (3xy^4 + x^2y^3 - x^3y^2 - 3x^4y)/48 + ..., with its first nonconstant term of total degree four, and so when x and y are small, r(x, y) will be close to 1. If n is not 1, the nth power will still be close to 1, and if there are common factors in the denominators of the exponents, the resulting comma will be less complex (lower in height), and this is the really interesting case. For example, if a = 7/6 and b = 27/25, we obtain (7/6)^(1/26) / (27/25)^(1/13), the lcm of 13 and 26 is 26, and taking the 26th power gives us 4375/4374. The common factor of 13 leads to the resulting comma (4375/4374) being relatively simple. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
It should be noted that a more general procedure for finding a comma from two intervals a and b is to use the convergents of the ratio of the logarithms; the Don Page construction might be regarded as a way pointing to examples where this is especially interesting. We might also note that successive superparticular ratios such as 10/9 and 11/10 or 12/11 and 13/12 exhibit a distinct tendency to produce strong (in the sense of low badness figures for the corresponding temperament) Don Page commas, not surprising when we note that in this case the first non-constant term of the one-variable expansion is of order five, but these are by no means the only examples.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Here are some 5-limit Don Page commas:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
DPC(5/3, 3) = 27/25&lt;br /&gt;
DPC(4/3, 5/2) = 135/128&lt;br /&gt;
DPC(5/3, 2) = 648/625&lt;br /&gt;
DPC(4/3, 9/5) = 81/80&lt;br /&gt;
DPC(5/4, 2) = 128/125&lt;br /&gt;
DPC(4/3, 5/3) = 16875/16384, negri&lt;br /&gt;
DPC(3/2, 5/3) = 20000/19683, tetracot&lt;br /&gt;
DPC(10/9, 32/25) = |8 14 -13&amp;gt;, parakleisma&lt;br /&gt;
DPC(5/4, 4/3) = |32 -7 -9&amp;gt;, escapade&lt;br /&gt;
DPC(6/5, 5/4) = |-29 -11 20&amp;gt;, gammic&lt;br /&gt;
DPC(10/9, 9/8) = |-70 72 -19&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
DPC(81/80, 25/24) = |71 -99 37&amp;gt;, raider&lt;br /&gt;
DPC(81/80, 128/125) = |161 -84 -12&amp;gt;, the atom&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Here are some 7-limit Don Page commas:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
DPC(7/5, 2) = 50/49&lt;br /&gt;
DPC(6/5, 7/4) = 875/864&lt;br /&gt;
DPC(7/5, 5/3) = 3125/3087&lt;br /&gt;
DPC(9/7, 5/3) = 245/243&lt;br /&gt;
DPC(7/6, 8/5) = 1728/1715&lt;br /&gt;
DPC(8/7, 3/2) = 1029/1024&lt;br /&gt;
DPC(5/4, 7/5) = 3136/3125&lt;br /&gt;
DPC(9/8, 10/7) = 5120/5103&lt;br /&gt;
DPC(27/25, 7/6) = 4375/4374&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
From 11-limit consonances:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
DPC(11/10, 4/3) = 4000/3993&lt;br /&gt;
DPC(10/9, 11/8) = 8019/8000&lt;br /&gt;
DPC(11/9, 3/2) = 243/242&lt;br /&gt;
DPC(5/4, 11/7) = 176/175&lt;br /&gt;
DPC(8/7, 11/9) = 41503/41472&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
From 15-limit consonances:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
DPC(15/14, 16/13) = 43904/43875&lt;br /&gt;
DPC(14/13, 5/4) = 10985/10976&lt;br /&gt;
DPC(11/10, 15/13) = 225000/224939&lt;br /&gt;
DPC(15/13, 4/3) = 676/675&lt;br /&gt;
DPC(13/11, 7/5) = 847/845&lt;br /&gt;
DPC(6/5, 13/9) = 325/324&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Here are some complex Don Page commas derived from other commas:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
DPC(525/512, 245/243) = |-153 277 -18 -87&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
DPC(49/48, 50/49) = |-487 -97 -198 392&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
DPC(10/9, 11/10) = |40 -38 40 0 -21&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
DPC(11/10, 12/11) = |-67 -23 -21 0 44&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
DPC(77/75, 245/243) = |0 286 -99 -103 19&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
DPC(55/54, 56/55) = |-442 -327 220 -111 220&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
DPC(176/175, 540/539) = |-58 -249 -137 139 110&amp;gt;&lt;/body&gt;&lt;/html&gt;</pre></div>