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{{Infobox MOS
{{Infobox MOS
|Tuning=5L 3s<15/7>}}{{MOS intro|Scale Signature=5L 3s<15/7>}}
|Tuning=5L 3s<15/7>
}}
{{MOS intro|Scale Signature=5L 3s<15/7>}}


Any ed15/7 with an interval between 494.8¢ and 527.8¢ has a 5L 3s scale. [[13ed15/7]] is the smallest ed15/7 with a (non-degenerate) 5L 3s scale and thus is the most commonly used 5L 3s tuning.
Any ed15/7 with an interval between 494.8¢ and 527.8¢ has a 5L 3s scale. [[13ed15/7]] is the smallest ed15/7 with a (non-degenerate) 5L 3s scale and thus is the most commonly used 5L 3s tuning.
==Standing assumptions==
==Standing assumptions==
The [[TAMNAMS]] system is used in this article to name 5L 3s<15/7> intervals and step size ratios and step ratio ranges.
The [[TAMNAMS]] system is used in this article to name 5L 3s<15/7> intervals and step size ratios and step ratio ranges.
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The chain of perfect 4ths becomes: ... Ef Af Qf Ff Bf Df G C E A Q F B D ...
The chain of perfect 4ths becomes: ... Ef Af Qf Ff Bf Df G C E A Q F B D ...


Thus the [[13edIX|13ed15/7]] gamut is as follows:
Thus the [[13ed15/7]] gamut is as follows:


'''G/F#''' G#/Af '''A''' A#/Bf '''B/Cf''' '''C/B#''' C#/Qf '''Q''' Q#/Df '''D/Ef E/D#''' E#/Ff '''F/Gf G'''
'''G/F#''' G#/Af '''A''' A#/Bf '''B/Cf''' '''C/B#''' C#/Qf '''Q''' Q#/Df '''D/Ef E/D#''' E#/Ff '''F/Gf G'''
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|1L + 2s
|1L + 2s
|-
|-
| colspan="8" |The chromatic 13-note MOS (either [[5L 8s (15/7-equivalent)|5L 8s]], [[8L 5s (15/7-equivalent)|8L 5s]], or [[13edIX|13ed15/7]]) also has the following intervals (from some root):
| colspan="8" |The chromatic 13-note MOS (either [[5L 8s (15/7-equivalent)|5L 8s]], [[8L 5s (15/7-equivalent)|8L 5s]], or [[13ed15/7]]) also has the following intervals (from some root):
|-
|-
|8
|8
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|-
|-
! class="unsortable" |Degree
! class="unsortable" |Degree
!Size in [[13edIX|13ed15/7]] (basic)
!Size in [[13ed15/7]] (basic)
!Size in [[18ed15/7]] (hard)
!Size in [[18ed15/7]] (hard)
!Size in [[21ed15/7]] (soft)
!Size in [[21ed15/7]] (soft)
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**The large step is near the Pythagorean 9/8 whole tone, somewhere between as in [[12edo]] and as in [[17edo]].
**The large step is near the Pythagorean 9/8 whole tone, somewhere between as in [[12edo]] and as in [[17edo]].
**The major 3rd (made of two large steps) is a near-[[Pythagorean]] to [[Neogothic]] major third.
**The major 3rd (made of two large steps) is a near-[[Pythagorean]] to [[Neogothic]] major third.
EDIXs that are in the hypohard range include [[13edIX|13ed15/7]], [[18ed15/7]], and 31ed15/7.
EDIXs that are in the hypohard range include [[13ed15/7]], [[18ed15/7]], and 31ed15/7.


The sizes of the generator, large step and small step of Neapolitan-oneirotonic are as follows in various hypohard Neapolitan-oneiro tunings.
The sizes of the generator, large step and small step of Neapolitan-oneirotonic are as follows in various hypohard Neapolitan-oneiro tunings.
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|-
|-
!
!
![[13edIX|13ed15/7]] (basic)
![[13ed15/7]] (basic)
![[18ed15/7]] (hard)
![[18ed15/7]] (hard)
!31ed15/7 (semihard)
!31ed15/7 (semihard)
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|-
|-
! class="unsortable" |Degree
! class="unsortable" |Degree
!Size in [[13edIX|13ed15/7]] (basic)
!Size in [[13ed15/7]] (basic)
!Size in [[18ed15/7]] (hard)
!Size in [[18ed15/7]] (hard)
!Size in 31ed15/7 (semihard)
!Size in 31ed15/7 (semihard)
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|11\13, 1116.452
|11\13, 1116.452
|15\18, 1099.536
|15\18, 1099.536
|26\31, 1106.6295
|26\31, 1106.629
|Ff
|Ff
|11/6, 13/7, 15/8
|11/6, 13/7, 15/8
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|12\13, 1217.942
|12\13, 1217.942
|17\18, 1246.140
|17\18, 1246.140
|29\31, 1234.3175
|29\31, 1234.317
|F
|F
|2/1
|2/1
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===Hyposoft===
===Hyposoft===
[[Hyposoft]] Neapolitan-oneirotonic tunings (with generator between 8\21 and 5\13) have step ratios between 3/2 and 2/1. The 8\21-to-5\13 range of Neapolitan-oneirotonic tunings can be considered "meantone Neapolitan-oneirotonic”.  This is because these tunings share the following features with meantone diatonic tunings:
[[Hyposoft]] Neapolitan-oneirotonic tunings (with generator between 8\21 and 5\13) have step ratios between 3/2 and 2/1. The 8\21-to-5\13 range of Neapolitan-oneirotonic tunings can be considered "meantone Neapolitan-oneirotonic”.  This is because these tunings share the following features with meantone diatonic tunings:
*The large step is between near the meantone and near the Pythagorean 9/8 whole tone, somewhere between as in [[19edo]] and as in [[17edo|12edo]].
*The large step is between near the meantone and near the Pythagorean 9/8 whole tone, somewhere between as in [[19edo]] and as in [[12edo]].
*The major 3rd (made of two large steps) is a near-[[Just intonation|just]] to near-[[Pythagorean]] major third.
*The major 3rd (made of two large steps) is a near-[[Just intonation|just]] to near-[[Pythagorean]] major third.
The sizes of the generator, large step and small step of Neapolitan-oneirotonic are as follows in various hyposoft Neapolitan-oneiro tunings ([[13edIX|13ed15/7]] not shown).
The sizes of the generator, large step and small step of Neapolitan-oneirotonic are as follows in various hyposoft Neapolitan-oneiro tunings ([[13ed15/7]] not shown).
{| class="wikitable right-2 right-3 right-4 right-5"
{| class="wikitable right-2 right-3 right-4 right-5"
|-
|-
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|s (-5g + 2 minor 9ths)
|s (-5g + 2 minor 9ths)
|3\29, 136.494
|3\29, 136.494
|4\37, [[Tel:142.6425|142.6425]]
|4\37, 142.642
|}
|}
====Intervals====
====Intervals====
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| -8
| -8
|}
|}
===Parahard===
===Parahard===
23ed15/7 Neapolitan-oneiro combines the sound of the 15/7 minor ninth and the [[8/7]] whole tone. This is because 23ed15/7 Neapolitan-oneirotonic has a large step of 229.5¢.  
23ed15/7 Neapolitan-oneiro combines the sound of the 15/7 minor ninth and the [[8/7]] whole tone. This is because 23ed15/7 Neapolitan-oneirotonic has a large step of 229.5¢.  
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|15\38, 520.833
|15\38, 520.833
|21\53, 522.798
|21\53, 522.798
|25\63, 523.58’
|25\63, 523.588
|484.07
|484.07
|C
|C
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|}
|}
==Scale tree==
==Scale tree==
{{Scale tree|5L 3s<15/7>}}
{{MOS tuning spectrum|Scale Signature=5L 3s<15/7>}}