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{{Infobox Interval
{{Infobox Interval
| Icon =
| Name = hemifamity comma, 5/7-kleisma, aberschisma
| Ratio = 5120/5103
| Color name = sry1, saruyo 1sn,<br>Saruyo comma
| Monzo = 10 -6 1 -1
| Comma = yes
| Cents = 5.75780
| Name = hemifamity comma, <br> 5/7-kleisma
| Color name =
| FJS name = P1<sup>5</sup><sub>7</sub>
| Sound =  
}}
}}
'''5120/5103''', the '''hemifamity comma''', '''5/7-kleisma''', or '''aberschisma''', is a [[small comma|small]] [[7-limit]] [[comma]] measuring about 5.8{{cent}}. It is the difference between [[7/5]] (small septimal tritone) and [[1024/729]] (Pythagorean diminished fifth), or between [[10/7]] (large septimal tritone) and [[729/512]] (Pythagorean augmented fourth). It is also the difference between [[15/14]] and [[2187/2048]], between [[21/20]] and [[256/243]], between [[80/63]] and [[81/64]], etc., hence, between the septimal comma of [[64/63]] and the syntonic comma of [[81/80]], as well as between [[schisma|32805/32768]], the schisma, and [[225/224]], the marvel comma.


'''5120/5103''', the '''hemifamity comma''' or '''5/7-kleisma''', is a [[7-limit]] [[small comma]] measuring about 5.8 cents. It is the difference between [[7/5]] (small septimal tritone) and [[1024/729]] (Pythagorean diminished fifth), or between [[10/7]] (large septimal tritone) and [[729/512]] (Pythagorean augmented fourth). It is also the difference between [[15/14]] and [[2187/2048]], between [[21/20]] and [[256/243]], between [[80/63]] and [[81/64]], etc., hence, between the septimal comma of [[64/63]] and the syntonic comma of [[81/80]].  
== Temperaments ==
Tempering it out leads to the rank-3 [[hemifamity]] temperament, which splits the septimal quartertone [[36/35]] into two equal parts, each representing 81/80~64/63. Rank-2 temperaments that temper it out include [[hemififths]] and [[amity]], to name two. [[Edo]]s that temper it out include [[12edo|12]], {{EDOs| 29, 34, 41, 46, 53, 58, 87, 94, 99, 111, 140, 145, 152, 239, 292, 391 }}, etc. See [[Hemifamity family]] for the rank-3 family where it is tempered out. See [[Hemifamity temperaments]] for a collection of rank-2 temperaments where it is tempered out.  


Tempering it out leads to the rank-3 [[hemifamity family]], which splits the septimal quartertone [[36/35]] into two equal parts, each representing 81/80~64/63. Rank-2 temperaments that temper it out include [[hemififths]] and [[amity]], to name two. Edos that temper it out include {{EDOs|29, 34, 41, 46, 53, 58, 87, 94, 99, 111, 140, 239, 292, 391}}, etc.  
== Sagittal notation ==
In the [[Sagittal]] system, the downward version of this comma (possibly tempered) is represented by the sagittal {{sagittal | !( }} and is called the '''7/5 kleisma''', or '''7/5k''' for short, because the simplest interval it notates is 7/5, as for example in B-F{{nbhsp}}{{sagittal | !( }}. The upward version is called '''5/7k''' or '''7/5k up''' and is represented by {{sagittal| |( }}.


== See also ==
== Etymology ==
* [[Hemifamity family]]
The name ''hemifamity'' was given by [[Gene Ward Smith]] in 2005 as a contraction of ''hemififths'' and ''amity''<ref>[https://yahootuninggroupsultimatebackup.github.io/tuning-math/topicId_12900.html Yahoo! Tuning Group | ''Seven limit comma names from pairs of temperament names'']</ref>.
* [[Hemifamity temperaments]]
 
* [[Comma]]
An alternate name for the comma, the ''aberschisma'', was given by [[User:Tristanbay|Tristan Bay]] in 2024 in reference to [[groundfault]]'s [[aberrismic theory]], being the difference between two of the most common aberrismas in just intonation (81/80 and 64/63).
 
== Notes ==


[[Category:7-limit]]
[[Category:Small comma]]
[[Category:Ratio]]
[[Category:Hemifamity]]
[[Category:Hemifamity]]