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Bohpier has a near-equal MOS of 8 notes, and [[41edo|41EDO]] is a particularly good equal temperament that [[support]]s it. Therefore 41EDO secretly contains a version of Bohlen-Pierce you can get by taking every fifth note. (Other EDOs are [[33edo|33EDO]] and [[49edo|49EDO]] but they are not so good.) | Bohpier has a near-equal MOS of 8 notes, and [[41edo|41EDO]] is a particularly good equal temperament that [[support]]s it. Therefore 41EDO secretly contains a version of Bohlen-Pierce you can get by taking every fifth note. (Other EDOs are [[33edo|33EDO]] and [[49edo|49EDO]] but they are not so good.) | ||
== Relationship of rank-2 | == Relationship of rank-2 Bohlen-Pierce-Stearns temperament to octave-ful temperaments == | ||
The rank-2 temperament under discussion here is the 3.5.7 temperament that tempers out only 245/243 (not any other commas such as 3125/3087). Its mapping matrix is {{val|1 1 2}}, {{val|0 2 -1}} and the two generators are ~1902 cents and ~440 cents | The rank-2 temperament under discussion here is the 3.5.7 temperament known as [[BPS]] that tempers out only 245/243 (not any other commas such as 3125/3087). Its mapping matrix is {{val|1 1 2}}, {{val|0 2 -1}} and the two generators are ~1902 cents (the period, [[3/1]]) and ~440 cents (which represents a sharpened 9/7, two of which make a 5/3 because of 245/243 vanishes.) In 3/1-equivalence world, its MOS sequence goes 4, 5, 9, 13..., and the 9-note MOS is known as the BP "Lambda" scale. | ||
If we add the prime 2 back into this system, we get a rank-3 system that has been given the name "[[octarod]]". | If we add the prime 2 back into this system, we get a rank-3 system that has been given the name "[[octarod]]". | ||
What if we want a rank-2 system? In that case we must find a suitable interval in the system to represent 2/1. In theory any of the many 7-limit temperaments tempering out 245/243 (the [[sensamagic family]]) could be considered a relative of Bohlen-Pierce. But most of them divide either 3/1 or the ~440 cent generator into some number of equal parts, and so don't have the same generators/lattice as rank-2 BP itself. (In math terms the "index" is greater than 1.) For example, [[magic]] divides 3/1 into 5 equal parts. [[Superpyth]], on the other hand, leaves 3/1 unsplit but makes 9/7 no longer the generator - instead | What if we want a rank-2 system? In that case we must find a suitable interval in the system to represent 2/1. In theory any of the many 7-limit temperaments tempering out 245/243 (the [[sensamagic family]]) could be considered a relative of Bohlen-Pierce. But most of them divide either 3/1 or the ~440 cent generator into some number of equal parts, and so don't have the same generators/lattice as rank-2 BP itself. (In math terms the "index" is greater than 1.) For example, [[magic]] divides 3/1 into 5 equal parts. [[Superpyth]], on the other hand, leaves 3/1 unsplit but makes 9/7 no longer the generator - instead it has complexity 6. | ||
To find a rank-2 temperament more closely analogous to Lambda temperament but containing the prime 2, 2/1 must be mapped to some already existing note of | To find a rank-2 temperament more closely analogous to Lambda temperament but containing the prime 2, 2/1 must be mapped to some already existing note of this temperament's genchain rather than a new note obtained by splitting up the 3/1 period or ~440 cent generator. There are two obvious candidates for this mapping of 2/1: +7 generators (which corresponds to 125/63 in the 3.5.7 subgroup) and -6 generators (which corresponds to 49/25 in the 3.5.7 subgroup). In 13ed3 these notes are "enharmonically equivalent" to each other as 13 = 7 + 6; this corresponds to tempering of the additional comma 3125/3087. | ||
=== Sensi === | === Sensi === | ||
Consider the first possibility, that 2/1 is mapped to +7 generators in the BP lambda scale. Seven generators up from C is H#, so this means H# represents 2/1 above C. In | Consider the first possibility, that 2/1 is mapped to +7 generators in the BP lambda scale, therefore tempering out [[126/125]]. Seven generators up from C is H#, so this means H# represents 2/1 above C. In [[13edt]], H# is only 1170 cents, so in order for this to accurately represent 2/1 the generator needs to be widened by a few cents, from ~440 cents up to ~443 cents. | ||
The result of doing this is [[sensi]] temperament. | The result of doing this is [[sensi]] temperament. | ||
=== Hedgehog === | === Hedgehog === | ||
Now consider what happens if 2/1 is mapped to -6 generators instead. Six generators down from C (in the Lambda scale notation) is Jb, so now Jb represents 2/1 above C. In this case the generator must be narrowed from ~440 to ~436 cents in order for Jb to end up at a reasonable 2/1. | Now consider what happens if 2/1 is mapped to -6 generators instead, therefore tempering out [[50/49]]. Six generators down from C (in the Lambda scale notation) is Jb, so now Jb represents 2/1 above C. In this case the generator must be narrowed from ~440 to ~436 cents in order for Jb to end up at a reasonable 2/1. | ||
Furthermore, since 2/1 is being mapped to (2, -6) (up two ~1902 cent periods and down six ~436 cent generators), and both 2 and -6 are even numbers, that means 2/1 splits into two equal parts in this system. (This is in contrast to sensi in which 2/1 is intact and doesn't split into any equal parts.) | Furthermore, since 2/1 is being mapped to (2, -6) (up two ~1902 cent periods and down six ~436 cent generators), and both 2 and -6 are even numbers, that means 2/1 splits into two equal parts in this system which each represents [[7/5]]~[[10/7]]. (This is in contrast to sensi in which 2/1 is intact and doesn't split into any equal parts.) | ||
The result of doing this is [[hedgehog]] temperament. | The result of doing this is [[hedgehog]] temperament. |