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An [[wikipedia:List_of_extended-range_guitar_players|extended range guitar]] is one with more than 6 strings. For microtonal instruments, e.g. the [[Kite guitar]], this may not actually increase the range.
{{Wikipedia|List of extended-range guitar players}}
An '''extended range guitar''' is a guitar with more than 6 strings. For certain microtonal guitars, e.g. the [[Kite guitar]], this may not actually increase the range, because the interval between strings may be smaller than usual.  


https://www.sevenstring.org/ has a lot of information, including a forum.
With more strings, it's important to avoid both a too-wide neck and a too-tight string spacing. The 7-string [[wikipedia:Russian_guitar|Russian guitar]] (now also made in Ukraine and Romania) tends to have a narrower fingerboard and a tighter spacing than a 7-string classical guitar.


Sources for 7- and 8-string guitars:
== General resources ==
=== Forums ===
* [https://www.sevenstring.org/ SevenString.org]


==Low-end (US$200-500)==
== Models ==
Sources for 7- and 8-string guitars, both acoustic and electric:


===Grote (China)===
=== Low-end (US$200-400) ===
==== Grote (China) ====
7-string archtop semi-acoustic
7-string archtop semi-acoustic


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https://riverheightsmusic.com/grote-guitars-review-7-string-arch-top/
https://riverheightsmusic.com/grote-guitars-review-7-string-arch-top/


===Trembita (Ukraine)===
==== Trembita (Ukraine) ====
7-string steel string
7-string steel string


https://trembita-guitars.com/index
https://trembita-guitars.com/index


===Leo Tone (Ukraine)===
==== Leo Tone (Ukraine) ====
7-string steel string
7-string steel string with tight string spacing


https://www.amazon.com/Russian-Guitar-Acoustic-Classical-Cutaway/dp/B00L2K6DJY
https://www.amazon.com/Russian-Guitar-Acoustic-Classical-Cutaway/dp/B00L2K6DJY
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZd1b-yJqrs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZd1b-yJqrs


===Jackson Dinky===
==== Jackson ====
7-string electric
US$200 7-string electric: https://www.jacksonguitars.com/en-US/guitars/js-series/js-series-dinky-arch-top-js22-7-dka-ht/2910132568.html
 
==== Thomann Classica ====
US$322 7-string nylon: https://www.thomannmusic.com/thomann_classica_fusion_7_string.htm
 
US$339 8-string nylon: https://www.thomannmusic.com/thomann_classica_fusion_8_string.htm


==Mid-range (US$600-1500)==
=== Mid-range (US$500-1200) ===


===Ovation===
==== Ortega ====
Custom Elite 8-string steel string w pickup
7-string model:


Discontinued, try to buy one used, it used to retail for $1200-1600 new.
https://reverb.com/item/65299164-family-series-pro-7-string-solid-top-nylon-classical-guitar-w-bag


===Agile / Rondo===
==== Agile ====
various 7 and 8 strings
various 7 and 8 strings, sold in the US by Rondo


===Ibanez===
https://reverb.com/shop/rondo-music
 
==== Ibanez (Japan) ====
various models
various models


https://www.ibanez.com/usa/products/search/electric_guitars/list/?cf_search_strings=7&cf_search_strings=8
https://www.ibanez.com/usa/products/search/electric_guitars/list/?cf_search_strings=7&cf_search_strings=8


==High-end (US$2000 and up)==
discontinued US$900 7-string classical: https://ibanez.fandom.com/wiki/G207CWC
 
=== High-end (US$1200 and up) ===
 
==== Ovation ====
Discontinued $1200 8-string steel string: [https://www.musiciansfriend.com/guitars/ovation-1788tx-5-elite-tx-mid-depth-8-string-acoustic-electric-guitar musiciansfriend.com/guitars/ovation-1788tx-5-elite-tx-mid-depth-8-string-acoustic-electric-guitar]
 
Discontinued $1600 8-string steel string: [https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/C2088AXPSTB--ovation-exoticwoods-custom-elite-8-string-sapele-tobacco-burst sweetwater.com/store/detail/C2088AXPSTB--ovation-exoticwoods-custom-elite-8-string-sapele-tobacco-burst]
 
Try to get an Ovation case, as it won't fit in most other cases.
 
==== Rozini (Brazil) ====
7 and 8 strings
 
https://rozinibrazil.com/en/categoria_de_produtos/guitars/
 
==== Kremona (Bulgaria) ====
US$1599 7-string nylon: https://www.kremonausa.com/en/performer-series/fiesta-cw-7-kremona
 
Their website claims they can make any sort of custom guitar, so they might make a microtonal one?
 
== Nut and saddle widths ==
Nut width #2 and saddle width are both measured from the outside edges of the two outer strings (i.e. the highest and lowest strings).
 
Nut gap is the average edge-to-next-edge gap (See [[How to make a Kite Guitar#String Spacing]])


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12th fret refers to 12edo frets, i.e. midway between nut and bridge.


[[Category: Kite Guitar]]
Saddle gap is the average gap between strings, measured edge-to-edge.
{| class="wikitable"
|+
!
!strings
!type
! colspan="2" |nut width
! colspan="2" |nut width #2
! colspan="2" |nut gap
! colspan="2" |12th fret width
! colspan="2" |saddle width
! colspan="2" |saddle gap
|-
!Leo Tone L-15
|7 steel
|acoustic
|1.9"
|48.5mm
|1.59"
|40.5mm
|0.48"
|12.4mm
|2.25"
|57.3mm
|2.37"
|60.3mm
|0.36"
|9.1mm
|-
!Doff
|7 nylon
|classical
|2"
|51mm
|1.72"
|43.8mm
|0.53"
|13.6mm
|2.24"
|57.1mm
|2.51"
|63.8mm
|0.38"
|9.6mm
|-
!Eastman AR810CE
|7 steel
|archtop
|2 1/8"
|54mm
|1.86"
|47.5mm
|0.59"
|15.1mm
|2.42"
|61.5mm
|2.39"
|60.7mm
|0.37"
|9.4mm
|-
!Ibanez G207CWC
|7 nylon
|classical
|2.4"
|61.2mm
|2.08"
|52.9mm
|0.65"
|16.5mm
|2.69"
|68.5mm
|2.72"
|69.1mm
|0.41"
|10.5mm
|}
[[Category:Guitar]]
[[Category:Kite Guitar]]

Latest revision as of 07:42, 18 April 2023

An extended range guitar is a guitar with more than 6 strings. For certain microtonal guitars, e.g. the Kite guitar, this may not actually increase the range, because the interval between strings may be smaller than usual.

With more strings, it's important to avoid both a too-wide neck and a too-tight string spacing. The 7-string Russian guitar (now also made in Ukraine and Romania) tends to have a narrower fingerboard and a tighter spacing than a 7-string classical guitar.

General resources

Forums

Models

Sources for 7- and 8-string guitars, both acoustic and electric:

Low-end (US$200-400)

Grote (China)

7-string archtop semi-acoustic

Very favorable review that claims it's a great value for the price:

https://riverheightsmusic.com/grote-guitars-review-7-string-arch-top/

Trembita (Ukraine)

7-string steel string

https://trembita-guitars.com/index

Leo Tone (Ukraine)

7-string steel string with tight string spacing

https://www.amazon.com/Russian-Guitar-Acoustic-Classical-Cutaway/dp/B00L2K6DJY

Somewhat unfavorable review:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZd1b-yJqrs

Jackson

US$200 7-string electric: https://www.jacksonguitars.com/en-US/guitars/js-series/js-series-dinky-arch-top-js22-7-dka-ht/2910132568.html

Thomann Classica

US$322 7-string nylon: https://www.thomannmusic.com/thomann_classica_fusion_7_string.htm

US$339 8-string nylon: https://www.thomannmusic.com/thomann_classica_fusion_8_string.htm

Mid-range (US$500-1200)

Ortega

7-string model:

https://reverb.com/item/65299164-family-series-pro-7-string-solid-top-nylon-classical-guitar-w-bag

Agile

various 7 and 8 strings, sold in the US by Rondo

https://reverb.com/shop/rondo-music

Ibanez (Japan)

various models

https://www.ibanez.com/usa/products/search/electric_guitars/list/?cf_search_strings=7&cf_search_strings=8

discontinued US$900 7-string classical: https://ibanez.fandom.com/wiki/G207CWC

High-end (US$1200 and up)

Ovation

Discontinued $1200 8-string steel string: musiciansfriend.com/guitars/ovation-1788tx-5-elite-tx-mid-depth-8-string-acoustic-electric-guitar

Discontinued $1600 8-string steel string: sweetwater.com/store/detail/C2088AXPSTB--ovation-exoticwoods-custom-elite-8-string-sapele-tobacco-burst

Try to get an Ovation case, as it won't fit in most other cases.

Rozini (Brazil)

7 and 8 strings

https://rozinibrazil.com/en/categoria_de_produtos/guitars/

Kremona (Bulgaria)

US$1599 7-string nylon: https://www.kremonausa.com/en/performer-series/fiesta-cw-7-kremona

Their website claims they can make any sort of custom guitar, so they might make a microtonal one?

Nut and saddle widths

Nut width #2 and saddle width are both measured from the outside edges of the two outer strings (i.e. the highest and lowest strings).

Nut gap is the average edge-to-next-edge gap (See How to make a Kite Guitar#String Spacing)

12th fret refers to 12edo frets, i.e. midway between nut and bridge.

Saddle gap is the average gap between strings, measured edge-to-edge.

strings type nut width nut width #2 nut gap 12th fret width saddle width saddle gap
Leo Tone L-15 7 steel acoustic 1.9" 48.5mm 1.59" 40.5mm 0.48" 12.4mm 2.25" 57.3mm 2.37" 60.3mm 0.36" 9.1mm
Doff 7 nylon classical 2" 51mm 1.72" 43.8mm 0.53" 13.6mm 2.24" 57.1mm 2.51" 63.8mm 0.38" 9.6mm
Eastman AR810CE 7 steel archtop 2 1/8" 54mm 1.86" 47.5mm 0.59" 15.1mm 2.42" 61.5mm 2.39" 60.7mm 0.37" 9.4mm
Ibanez G207CWC 7 nylon classical 2.4" 61.2mm 2.08" 52.9mm 0.65" 16.5mm 2.69" 68.5mm 2.72" 69.1mm 0.41" 10.5mm