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== Redundancy ==
I see an increasing amount of redundancy in the xenwiki. The content of this page, e.g., overlaps a good deal with the page "what is microtonal music".

I would like to suggest, once more, the principle "DRY".

- '''hstraub''' August 17, 2011, 12:46:30 AM UTC-0700
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Wikipedia has both a microtonal music article and a xenharmonic music article. How's that for redundency. Anyway, I need to rescue the article from the clutches of Wikipedia.

- '''genewardsmith''' August 17, 2011, 12:57:43 AM UTC-0700
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This is not Wikipedia. So it is absolutely not relevant how redundant WIkipedia is.

I still do not see the point in having overlapping stuff (e.g. concerning terminology) on different pages.

- '''hstraub''' August 17, 2011, 01:43:33 AM UTC-0700
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It's a wiki, that's why there isn't a global concept for distributing information. Redundancy is not so bad as long as it remains within limits.

I think, The "DRY" principle wasn't designed for wikis - to just put this pointedly:

Wikis as communication platforms can hardly be more redundancy-free, as communication itself.

- '''xenwolf''' August 17, 2011, 02:28:06 AM UTC-0700
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@hstraub:

...oh I forgot: you are fully right:

Yes, thank God, this is not Wikipedia! :)

- '''xenwolf''' August 17, 2011, 02:30:16 AM UTC-0700
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I don't give a d**n what DRY was originally designed for. This wiki has reached a size where keeping track of all the stuff in it is getting increasingly difficult. IMO, "DRY" is becoming more and more a sheer necessity.

And I still do not see what is the point of having two sections on two different pages dedicated to the various terms that are used instead of or additinally to "microtonal".

- '''hstraub''' August 17, 2011, 03:41:42 AM UTC-0700
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Nobody hinders you the remove duplicated sections and build a new page from it.

One-pagers for external use can be made with the page inclusion facility that is available in the wikispaces software. try

<tt>[[include page="PAGENAME"]]</tt>

- '''xenwolf''' August 17, 2011, 03:55:24 AM UTC-0700
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But then Gene might have to rescue his article from some clutches again.

But i guess I will do so (at the risk of being called a drooling, slobbering moron, too).

- '''hstraub''' August 17, 2011, 04:13:34 AM UTC-0700
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Since the Xenwiki is not written from a single point of view, I don't see how you can enforce a single source of truth. It makes sense to do so with definitions, but why with articles on topics like microtonality?

- '''genewardsmith''' August 17, 2011, 08:58:49 AM UTC-0700
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Your section  on terminology apparently has already the claim of covering the existing multiple points of view, mentioning the terms microtonal, micro-intervals, macro-interval, ultra-chromatic, infra-chromatic, xenharmonic.

There is a section on another page with obviously the same aim, mentioning the terms microtonal, macrotonal, also xenharmonic (with about the same definition as in your article), neoteric, non-western, alternative tuning, metachromatic, ekmelic.

What's wrong with combining these two articles into one that lists all the terms? What's wrong with that?

- '''hstraub''' August 17, 2011, 11:43:51 AM UTC-0700
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Alright, alright - I will leave your article as it is and jus tput a link to it on http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/DefineMicrotonal .

But I will fix some if the links.

- '''hstraub''' August 17, 2011, 11:32:12 PM UTC-0700
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