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<span style="font-size: 150%;">**Tuning systems for the qanun**</span>
[[toc]]
Julien Jalaleddine Weiss, used with permission.
Reference: Pohlit, Stefan. 2011. Julien Jalâl Ed-Dine Weiss – A New Qānūn System: Its Application in the Performance
Practice of the Ensemble “Al-Kindi” and in Contemporary Western Music. PhD Thesis, MIAM/Istanbul Technical
University.

The tuning tables on this page are specifically designed for the tuning system of the [[qanun]] (see the link for details on the system of tuning and playing a qanun with "mandals/orabs").

The possible pitches of a string obtained via raising/lowering the mandals/orabs lie within one [[2187_2048|apotome (2187/2048, 113.7 cents)]]. All systems use 8 mandals, allowing a subdivision of the apotome into 7 parts.

The first rough subdivision of the apotome is always into one [[81_80|syntonic comma (81/80, 21.5 cents)]], one [[25_24|Zarlinian semitone (25/24, 70.7 cents)]] and another syntonic comma. The middle part (25/24, Zarlinian semitone) is then further subdivided into 5 (unequal or equal) parts. The various systems differ mainly in the division of the middle part.

=Explanation of the tuning tables= 
The whole table covers roughly the range of a fourth (the range where the ajnas - maqam tetrachords - reside). Each row corresponds to one string of the qanun. In the first column stands the basic (relative) tuning of a string while the following columns indicate possible intervals that can be reached via lowering the mandals/orabs.

The first table contains the cent values and the second the just intervals, sometimes differing between ascending and descending ratios.

Any given configuration of mandal/orab positions, resulting in a certain set of pitches that can be played at a given time
(base for a maqam tetrachord) is represented by a choice of one cell in each row.

=Older systems= 
==First System J.J.Weiss== 
Subdivision of 25/24 into 65/64 (26 cents), 144/143 (12 cents) and 55/54 (32 cents).
65/64 and 55/54 are each split into two.

This gives the following interval positions of the mandals: 22, 13, 13, 12, 16, 16, 22 cents.
Luthier: Ejder Gulec

Interval Table (cents):
|| 0 || 22 || 35 || 48 || 60 || 76 || 92 || 114 ||
|| 90 || 112 || 125 || 138 || 150 || 166 || 182 || 204 ||
|| 294 || 316 || 330 || 342 || 354 || 370 || 386 || 408 ||
|| 384 || 406 || 420 || 432 || 444 || 460 || 476 || 498 ||
|| 498 || 520 || 533 || 546 || 558 || 574 || 590 || 612 ||

Interval table of just intervals (ascending, descending):
|| 1/1 || 81/80 || 49/48 || 1053/1024 || 729/704 || 2673/2560 || 135/128 || 2187/2048 ||
|| 256/243 || 16/15 || 784/729, 128/119, 43/40 (asc.)
320/297 (desc.) || 13/12 (asc.)
88/81 (desc.) || 12/11 (asc.)
128/117 (desc.) || 11/10, 208/189 (asc.)
54/49 (desc.) || 10/9 || 9/8 ||
|| 32/27 || 6/5 || 98/81 (asc.)
40/33 (desc.) || 39/32 (asc.)
XXX || 27/22 (asc.)
XXX || 99/80, 26/21 (asc.)
XXX || 5/4 || 81/64 ||
|| 8192/6581 || XXX || 25088/19683 || 104/81 || XXX || 176/135 || 320/243 || 4/3 ||
|| XXX || 27/20 || 351/258 || XXX || 243/176 || 891/640 || 45/32 || 729/512 ||

==Variant with 128/119== 
XXX

==Variant with 128/119 ascending/descending== 
XXX

==Variant with 43/40 ascending/descending== 
XXX

=Newer systems= 
==System 2, better suited for ottoman maqams== 
J.J. Weiss, Qanun no. 9. Luthier: Kenan Ozten.

Mandal positions (cents): <span style="color: #00000a; font-family: Tahoma;">22|16|15|12|13|14|22</span>

Interval table XXX

==Symmetrical and super-symmetrical models== 
XXX
Characteristics of super-symmetric systems: no difference between ascending and descending ratios.

===Symmetrical model=== 
J.J. Weiss
Advantage: marked contrast between Segah of Ushaq and Segah of arabic Rast.
Equal division of 65/54 (320.98 cents)

Mandal positions (cents): <span style="font-family: Tahoma;">22|13|13|1</span><span style="color: #00000a; font-family: Tahoma;">8</span><span style="font-family: Tahoma;">|13|13|22</span>

Interval table XXX

===Super-symmetrical model=== 
J.J. Weiss
XXX

Mandal positions (cents): <span style="font-family: Tahoma;">22|13|13|1</span><span style="color: #00000a; font-family: Tahoma;">8</span><span style="font-family: Tahoma;">|13|13</span><span style="color: #00000a; font-family: Tahoma;">|</span><span style="font-family: Tahoma;">22</span>

Interval table XXX

===Unequal division of 65/54=== 
J.J. Weiss
Unequal division of 65/54 (320.98 cents)

XXX

===Equal division of the Zarlinian semitone=== 
J.J. Weiss
This is the simplest variant for luthiers...

Mandal positions (cents): <span style="color: #00000a; font-family: Tahoma;">22|14|14|14|14|14|22</span>

Interval table XXX

===Ascending/descending with 54/49=== 
J.J. Weiss
XXX

Mandal positions (cents): <span style="color: #00000a; font-family: Tahoma;">22|14|17|13|13|13|22</span>

Interval table XXX

===Ascending/descending with 14/13=== 
J.J. Weiss
<span style="color: #00000a; font-family: Tahoma;">XXX</span>

Mandal positions (cents): <span style="color: #00000a; font-family: Tahoma;">22, 16, 13, 12, 13, 16, 22</span>

Interval table XXX

===Ascending/descending with 11/10=== 
J.J. Weiss
XXX

Mandal positions (cents): <span style="color: #00000a; font-family: Tahoma;">22|16|15|13|13|13|22</span>

Interval table XXX

===Ascending/descending with 35/32=== 
J.J. Weiss
XXX

==System Jacques Dudon (2006)== 

Mandal positions (cents): <span style="color: #00000a; font-family: Tahoma;">21,5 | 14,5 | 14,5 | 14,5 | 15 | 12 | 21,5</span>

Interval table XXX

===Arithmetic system=== 

Mandal positions (cents): <span style="color: #00000a; font-family: Tahoma;">21,5 | 12 | 15 | 14,5 | 14,5 | 14,5 | 21,5 </span>


Interval table XXX

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<!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:58 -->Julien Jalaleddine Weiss, used with permission.<br />
Reference: Pohlit, Stefan. 2011. Julien Jalâl Ed-Dine Weiss – A New Qānūn System: Its Application in the Performance<br />
Practice of the Ensemble “Al-Kindi” and in Contemporary Western Music. PhD Thesis, MIAM/Istanbul Technical<br />
University.<br />
<br />
The tuning tables on this page are specifically designed for the tuning system of the <a class="wiki_link" href="/qanun">qanun</a> (see the link for details on the system of tuning and playing a qanun with &quot;mandals/orabs&quot;).<br />
<br />
The possible pitches of a string obtained via raising/lowering the mandals/orabs lie within one <a class="wiki_link" href="/2187_2048">apotome (2187/2048, 113.7 cents)</a>. All systems use 8 mandals, allowing a subdivision of the apotome into 7 parts.<br />
<br />
The first rough subdivision of the apotome is always into one <a class="wiki_link" href="/81_80">syntonic comma (81/80, 21.5 cents)</a>, one <a class="wiki_link" href="/25_24">Zarlinian semitone (25/24, 70.7 cents)</a> and another syntonic comma. The middle part (25/24, Zarlinian semitone) is then further subdivided into 5 (unequal or equal) parts. The various systems differ mainly in the division of the middle part.<br />
<br />
<!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:0:&lt;h1&gt; --><h1 id="toc0"><a name="Explanation of the tuning tables"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:0 -->Explanation of the tuning tables</h1>
 The whole table covers roughly the range of a fourth (the range where the ajnas - maqam tetrachords - reside). Each row corresponds to one string of the qanun. In the first column stands the basic (relative) tuning of a string while the following columns indicate possible intervals that can be reached via lowering the mandals/orabs.<br />
<br />
The first table contains the cent values and the second the just intervals, sometimes differing between ascending and descending ratios.<br />
<br />
Any given configuration of mandal/orab positions, resulting in a certain set of pitches that can be played at a given time<br />
(base for a maqam tetrachord) is represented by a choice of one cell in each row.<br />
<br />
<!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:2:&lt;h1&gt; --><h1 id="toc1"><a name="Older systems"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:2 -->Older systems</h1>
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 Subdivision of 25/24 into 65/64 (26 cents), 144/143 (12 cents) and 55/54 (32 cents).<br />
65/64 and 55/54 are each split into two.<br />
<br />
This gives the following interval positions of the mandals: 22, 13, 13, 12, 16, 16, 22 cents.<br />
Luthier: Ejder Gulec<br />
<br />
Interval Table (cents):<br />


<table class="wiki_table">
    <tr>
        <td>0<br />
</td>
        <td>22<br />
</td>
        <td>35<br />
</td>
        <td>48<br />
</td>
        <td>60<br />
</td>
        <td>76<br />
</td>
        <td>92<br />
</td>
        <td>114<br />
</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
        <td>90<br />
</td>
        <td>112<br />
</td>
        <td>125<br />
</td>
        <td>138<br />
</td>
        <td>150<br />
</td>
        <td>166<br />
</td>
        <td>182<br />
</td>
        <td>204<br />
</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
        <td>294<br />
</td>
        <td>316<br />
</td>
        <td>330<br />
</td>
        <td>342<br />
</td>
        <td>354<br />
</td>
        <td>370<br />
</td>
        <td>386<br />
</td>
        <td>408<br />
</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
        <td>384<br />
</td>
        <td>406<br />
</td>
        <td>420<br />
</td>
        <td>432<br />
</td>
        <td>444<br />
</td>
        <td>460<br />
</td>
        <td>476<br />
</td>
        <td>498<br />
</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
        <td>498<br />
</td>
        <td>520<br />
</td>
        <td>533<br />
</td>
        <td>546<br />
</td>
        <td>558<br />
</td>
        <td>574<br />
</td>
        <td>590<br />
</td>
        <td>612<br />
</td>
    </tr>
</table>

<br />
Interval table of just intervals (ascending, descending):<br />


<table class="wiki_table">
    <tr>
        <td>1/1<br />
</td>
        <td>81/80<br />
</td>
        <td>49/48<br />
</td>
        <td>1053/1024<br />
</td>
        <td>729/704<br />
</td>
        <td>2673/2560<br />
</td>
        <td>135/128<br />
</td>
        <td>2187/2048<br />
</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
        <td>256/243<br />
</td>
        <td>16/15<br />
</td>
        <td>784/729, 128/119, 43/40 (asc.)<br />
320/297 (desc.)<br />
</td>
        <td>13/12 (asc.)<br />
88/81 (desc.)<br />
</td>
        <td>12/11 (asc.)<br />
128/117 (desc.)<br />
</td>
        <td>11/10, 208/189 (asc.)<br />
54/49 (desc.)<br />
</td>
        <td>10/9<br />
</td>
        <td>9/8<br />
</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
        <td>32/27<br />
</td>
        <td>6/5<br />
</td>
        <td>98/81 (asc.)<br />
40/33 (desc.)<br />
</td>
        <td>39/32 (asc.)<br />
XXX<br />
</td>
        <td>27/22 (asc.)<br />
XXX<br />
</td>
        <td>99/80, 26/21 (asc.)<br />
XXX<br />
</td>
        <td>5/4<br />
</td>
        <td>81/64<br />
</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
        <td>8192/6581<br />
</td>
        <td>XXX<br />
</td>
        <td>25088/19683<br />
</td>
        <td>104/81<br />
</td>
        <td>XXX<br />
</td>
        <td>176/135<br />
</td>
        <td>320/243<br />
</td>
        <td>4/3<br />
</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
        <td>XXX<br />
</td>
        <td>27/20<br />
</td>
        <td>351/258<br />
</td>
        <td>XXX<br />
</td>
        <td>243/176<br />
</td>
        <td>891/640<br />
</td>
        <td>45/32<br />
</td>
        <td>729/512<br />
</td>
    </tr>
</table>

<br />
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 XXX<br />
<br />
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 XXX<br />
<br />
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 XXX<br />
<br />
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 J.J. Weiss, Qanun no. 9. Luthier: Kenan Ozten.<br />
<br />
Mandal positions (cents): <span style="color: #00000a; font-family: Tahoma;">22|16|15|12|13|14|22</span><br />
<br />
Interval table XXX<br />
<br />
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 XXX<br />
Characteristics of super-symmetric systems: no difference between ascending and descending ratios.<br />
<br />
<!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:18:&lt;h3&gt; --><h3 id="toc9"><a name="Newer systems-Symmetrical and super-symmetrical models-Symmetrical model"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:18 -->Symmetrical model</h3>
 J.J. Weiss<br />
Advantage: marked contrast between Segah of Ushaq and Segah of arabic Rast.<br />
Equal division of 65/54 (320.98 cents)<br />
<br />
Mandal positions (cents): <span style="font-family: Tahoma;">22|13|13|1</span><span style="color: #00000a; font-family: Tahoma;">8</span><span style="font-family: Tahoma;">|13|13|22</span><br />
<br />
Interval table XXX<br />
<br />
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 J.J. Weiss<br />
XXX<br />
<br />
Mandal positions (cents): <span style="font-family: Tahoma;">22|13|13|1</span><span style="color: #00000a; font-family: Tahoma;">8</span><span style="font-family: Tahoma;">|13|13</span><span style="color: #00000a; font-family: Tahoma;">|</span><span style="font-family: Tahoma;">22</span><br />
<br />
Interval table XXX<br />
<br />
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 J.J. Weiss<br />
Unequal division of 65/54 (320.98 cents)<br />
<br />
XXX<br />
<br />
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 J.J. Weiss<br />
This is the simplest variant for luthiers...<br />
<br />
Mandal positions (cents): <span style="color: #00000a; font-family: Tahoma;">22|14|14|14|14|14|22</span><br />
<br />
Interval table XXX<br />
<br />
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 J.J. Weiss<br />
XXX<br />
<br />
Mandal positions (cents): <span style="color: #00000a; font-family: Tahoma;">22|14|17|13|13|13|22</span><br />
<br />
Interval table XXX<br />
<br />
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 J.J. Weiss<br />
<span style="color: #00000a; font-family: Tahoma;">XXX</span><br />
<br />
Mandal positions (cents): <span style="color: #00000a; font-family: Tahoma;">22, 16, 13, 12, 13, 16, 22</span><br />
<br />
Interval table XXX<br />
<br />
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 J.J. Weiss<br />
XXX<br />
<br />
Mandal positions (cents): <span style="color: #00000a; font-family: Tahoma;">22|16|15|13|13|13|22</span><br />
<br />
Interval table XXX<br />
<br />
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 J.J. Weiss<br />
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Mandal positions (cents): <span style="color: #00000a; font-family: Tahoma;">21,5 | 14,5 | 14,5 | 14,5 | 15 | 12 | 21,5</span><br />
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Mandal positions (cents): <span style="color: #00000a; font-family: Tahoma;">21,5 | 12 | 15 | 14,5 | 14,5 | 14,5 | 21,5 </span><br />
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