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=Theory=

8-edo forms an odd and even pitch set of two diminished seventh chords, which when used in combination yield dissonance. The system has been described as a "barbaric" harmonic system; even so, it does a good job representing the [[Just intonation subgroups|just intonation subgroup]] 2.11/3.13/5, with good intervals of 13/10 and an excellent version of 11/6.

Another way of looking at 8-EDO is to treat a chord of 0-1-2-3-4 degrees (0-150-300-450-600 cents) as approximating harmonics 10:11:12:13:14 (~0-165-316-454-583 cents), which is not too implausible if you can buy that 12-EDO is a 5-limit temperament. This interpretation would imply that 121/120, 144/143, and 169/168 are tempered out.

=Scala scale file=
For those who use the new tuner Lingot, which accepts scala files, or for anyone else, here is a .scl file of 8 EDO [[file:08-EDO.scl]]

0. 1/1 C
1. 150.000 cents C# (50 cents sharper than C# of 12tet)
2. 300.000 cents D#
3. 450.000 cents E (50 cents sharper than E of 12tet)
4. 600.000 cents F#
5. 750.000 cents G (50 cents sharper than G of 12tet)
6. 900.000 cents A
7. 1050.000 cents A# (50 cents sharper than A# of 12tet)
8. 2/1 C

=Compositions=

[[http://www.h-pi.com/mp3/Fantasia8ET.mp3|Fantasia in 8ET]] by Aaron Andrew Hunt
[[http://www.h-pi.com/mp3/Fugue8ET.mp3|Fugue in 8ET]] by Aaron Andrew Hunt
[[http://www.uvnitr.cz/flaoyg/forgotten_works/spendliky.html|Špendlíky]] [[http://clones.soonlabel.com/public/micro/gene_ward_smith/Others/Gustar/spendliky.mp3|play]] by Milan Guštar
[[@http://www.ronsword.com/sounds/ronsword_8edo_improv.mp3|Acoustic Improvisation in 8-edo]] by Ron Sword (dead link)
[[http://www.jamendo.com/en/track/42776|8 / octave by Randy Winchester]]

[[file:8edo-pre-improv.ogg]]Preliminary noodling in 8 EDO with ZynAddSubFX synth.(by Cenobyte)
[[file:darkreflections(sketch).ogg]]8EDO Ukulele (cenobyte)
[[file:skiphop(sketch).ogg]]8EDO Ukulele (cenobyte)
[[file:octo-icy-pensive(sketch).ogg]] [[file:octo-icy-pensive-echo(sketch).ogg]]2 versions of the same song, one with echo, one without. (cenobyte)

=See also=
*[[Octatonic scale]] - a scale based on alternating whole and half steps

=Commas=
8 EDO tempers out the following commas. (Note: This assumes val < 8 13 19 22 28 30 |).

||~ Comma ||~ Monzo ||~ Cents ||~ Name 1 ||~ Name 2 ||~ Name 3 ||
||= 648/625 || | 3 4 -4 > ||> 62.57 ||= Major Diesis ||= Diminished Comma ||   ||
||= 250/243 || | 1 -5 3 > ||> 49.17 ||= Maximal Diesis ||= Porcupine Comma ||   ||
||= 78732/78125 || | 2 9 -7 > ||> 13.40 ||= Medium Semicomma ||= Sensipent Comma ||   ||
||= 64/63 || | 6 -2 0 -1 > ||> 27.26 ||= Septimal Comma ||= Archytas' Comma || Leipziger Komma ||
||= 875/864 || | -5 -3 3 1 > ||> 21.90 ||= Keema ||   ||   ||
||= 321489/320000 || | -9 8 -4 2 > ||> 8.04 ||= Varunisma ||   ||   ||
||= 6144/6125 || | 11 1 -3 -2 > ||> 5.36 ||= Porwell ||   ||   ||
||= 100/99 || | 2 -2 2 0 -1 > ||> 17.40 ||= Ptolemisma ||   ||   ||
||= 121/120 || | -3 -1 -1 0 2 > ||> 14.37 ||= Biyatisma ||   ||   ||
||= 176/175 || | 4 0 -2 -1 1 > ||> 9.86 ||= Valinorsma ||   ||   ||
||= 65536/65219 || | 16 0 0 -2 -3 > ||> 8.39 ||= Orgonisma ||   ||   ||
||= 385/384 || | -7 -1 1 1 1 > ||> 4.50 ||= Keenanisma ||   ||   ||
||= 4000/3993 || | 5 -1 3 0 -3 > ||> 3.03 ||= Wizardharry ||   ||   ||


=8 - Equal Divisions of the Octave= 
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[[image:8-EDO.png width="183" height="144"]]

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8-edo forms an odd and even pitch set of two diminished seventh chords, which when used in combination yield dissonance. The system has been described as a &quot;barbaric&quot; harmonic system; even so, it does a good job representing the <a class="wiki_link" href="/Just%20intonation%20subgroups">just intonation subgroup</a> 2.11/3.13/5, with good intervals of 13/10 and an excellent version of 11/6.<br />
<br />
Another way of looking at 8-EDO is to treat a chord of 0-1-2-3-4 degrees (0-150-300-450-600 cents) as approximating harmonics 10:11:12:13:14 (~0-165-316-454-583 cents), which is not too implausible if you can buy that 12-EDO is a 5-limit temperament. This interpretation would imply that 121/120, 144/143, and 169/168 are tempered out.<br />
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0. 1/1 C<br />
1. 150.000 cents C# (50 cents sharper than C# of 12tet)<br />
2. 300.000 cents D#<br />
3. 450.000 cents E (50 cents sharper than E of 12tet)<br />
4. 600.000 cents F#<br />
5. 750.000 cents G (50 cents sharper than G of 12tet)<br />
6. 900.000 cents A<br />
7. 1050.000 cents A# (50 cents sharper than A# of 12tet)<br />
8. 2/1 C<br />
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<a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://www.h-pi.com/mp3/Fantasia8ET.mp3" rel="nofollow">Fantasia in 8ET</a> by Aaron Andrew Hunt<br />
<a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://www.h-pi.com/mp3/Fugue8ET.mp3" rel="nofollow">Fugue in 8ET</a> by Aaron Andrew Hunt<br />
<a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://www.uvnitr.cz/flaoyg/forgotten_works/spendliky.html" rel="nofollow">Špendlíky</a> <a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://clones.soonlabel.com/public/micro/gene_ward_smith/Others/Gustar/spendliky.mp3" rel="nofollow">play</a> by Milan Guštar<br />
<a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://www.ronsword.com/sounds/ronsword_8edo_improv.mp3" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Acoustic Improvisation in 8-edo</a> by Ron Sword (dead link)<br />
<a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://www.jamendo.com/en/track/42776" rel="nofollow">8 / octave by Randy Winchester</a><br />
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*<a class="wiki_link" href="/Octatonic%20scale">Octatonic scale</a> - a scale based on alternating whole and half steps<br />
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<!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:8:&lt;h1&gt; --><h1 id="toc4"><a name="Commas"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:8 -->Commas</h1>
8 EDO tempers out the following commas. (Note: This assumes val &lt; 8 13 19 22 28 30 |).<br />
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<table class="wiki_table">
    <tr>
        <th>Comma<br />
</th>
        <th>Monzo<br />
</th>
        <th>Cents<br />
</th>
        <th>Name 1<br />
</th>
        <th>Name 2<br />
</th>
        <th>Name 3<br />
</th>
    </tr>
    <tr>
        <td style="text-align: center;">648/625<br />
</td>
        <td>| 3 4 -4 &gt;<br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: right;">62.57<br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;">Major Diesis<br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;">Diminished Comma<br />
</td>
        <td><br />
</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
        <td style="text-align: center;">250/243<br />
</td>
        <td>| 1 -5 3 &gt;<br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: right;">49.17<br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;">Maximal Diesis<br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;">Porcupine Comma<br />
</td>
        <td><br />
</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
        <td style="text-align: center;">78732/78125<br />
</td>
        <td>| 2 9 -7 &gt;<br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: right;">13.40<br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;">Medium Semicomma<br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;">Sensipent Comma<br />
</td>
        <td><br />
</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
        <td style="text-align: center;">64/63<br />
</td>
        <td>| 6 -2 0 -1 &gt;<br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: right;">27.26<br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;">Septimal Comma<br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;">Archytas' Comma<br />
</td>
        <td>Leipziger Komma<br />
</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
        <td style="text-align: center;">875/864<br />
</td>
        <td>| -5 -3 3 1 &gt;<br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: right;">21.90<br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;">Keema<br />
</td>
        <td><br />
</td>
        <td><br />
</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
        <td style="text-align: center;">321489/320000<br />
</td>
        <td>| -9 8 -4 2 &gt;<br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: right;">8.04<br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;">Varunisma<br />
</td>
        <td><br />
</td>
        <td><br />
</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
        <td style="text-align: center;">6144/6125<br />
</td>
        <td>| 11 1 -3 -2 &gt;<br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: right;">5.36<br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;">Porwell<br />
</td>
        <td><br />
</td>
        <td><br />
</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
        <td style="text-align: center;">100/99<br />
</td>
        <td>| 2 -2 2 0 -1 &gt;<br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: right;">17.40<br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;">Ptolemisma<br />
</td>
        <td><br />
</td>
        <td><br />
</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
        <td style="text-align: center;">121/120<br />
</td>
        <td>| -3 -1 -1 0 2 &gt;<br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: right;">14.37<br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;">Biyatisma<br />
</td>
        <td><br />
</td>
        <td><br />
</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
        <td style="text-align: center;">176/175<br />
</td>
        <td>| 4 0 -2 -1 1 &gt;<br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: right;">9.86<br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;">Valinorsma<br />
</td>
        <td><br />
</td>
        <td><br />
</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
        <td style="text-align: center;">65536/65219<br />
</td>
        <td>| 16 0 0 -2 -3 &gt;<br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: right;">8.39<br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;">Orgonisma<br />
</td>
        <td><br />
</td>
        <td><br />
</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
        <td style="text-align: center;">385/384<br />
</td>
        <td>| -7 -1 1 1 1 &gt;<br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: right;">4.50<br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;">Keenanisma<br />
</td>
        <td><br />
</td>
        <td><br />
</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
        <td style="text-align: center;">4000/3993<br />
</td>
        <td>| 5 -1 3 0 -3 &gt;<br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: right;">3.03<br />
</td>
        <td style="text-align: center;">Wizardharry<br />
</td>
        <td><br />
</td>
        <td><br />
</td>
    </tr>
</table>

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