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=<span style="color: #006b2e;">25 tone equal temperament</span>= 25EDO divides the octave in 25 equal steps of exact size 48 cents each. It is a good way to tune the Blackwood temperament, which takes the very sharp fifths of [[5EDO]] as a given, tempers out 28/27 and 49/48, and attempts to optimize the tunings for 5 and 7. 25EDO has fifths 18 cents sharp, but its major thirds are excellent and its 7/4 is acceptable. It therefore makes sense to use it as a 2.5.7 [[Just intonation subgroups|subgroup]] tuning. Looking just at 2, 5, and 7, it equates five 8/7s with the octave, and so tempers out (8/7)^5 / 2 = 16807/16384. It also equates a 128/125 diesis and two septimal tritones of 7/5 with the octave, and hence tempers out 3136/3125. If we want to temper out both of these and also have decent fifths, the obvious solution is [[50EDO]]. If 5/4 and 7/4 aren't good enough, it also does 17/16 and 19/16, just like 12EDO. In fact, on the [[k*N subgroups|2*25 subgroup]] 2.9.5.7.33.39.17.19 it provides the same tuning and tempers out the same commas as 50et, which makes for wide range of harmony. Some example of a keyboard in 25-EDO [[image:mm25.PNG]] ==Intervals== || Degrees of 25-EDO || Cents value || || 0 || 0 || || 1 || 48 || || 2 || 96 || || 3 || 144 || || 4 || 192 || || 5 || 240 || || 6 || 288 || || 7 || 336 || || 8 || 384 || || 9 || 432 || || 10 || 480 || || 11 || 528 || || 12 || 576 || || 13 || 624 || || 14 || 672 || || 15 || 720 || || 16 || 768 || || 17 || 816 || || 18 || 864 || || 19 || 912 || || 20 || 960 || || 21 || 1008 || || 22 || 1056 || || 23 || 1104 || || 24 || 1152 || ==Commas== 25 EDO tempers out the following commas. (Note: This assumes the val < 25 40 58 70 86 93 |.) ||~ Comma ||~ Monzo ||~ Value (Cents) ||~ Name 1 ||~ Name 2 ||~ Name 3 || || 256/243 || | 8 -5 > || 90.22 || Limma || Pythagorean Minor 2nd || || || 3125/3072 || | -10 -1 5 > || 29.61 || Small Diesis || Magic Comma || || || 6719816/6714445 || | 38 -2 -15 > || 1.38 || Hemithirds Comma || || || || 49/48 || | -4 -1 0 2 > || 35.70 || Slendro Diesis || || || || 64/63 || | 6 -2 0 -1 > || 27.26 || Septimal Comma || Archytas' Comma || Leipziger Komma || || 3125/3087 || | 0 -2 5 -3 > || 21.18 || Gariboh || || || || 50421/50000 || | -4 1 -5 5 > || 14.52 || Trimyna || || || || 1029/1024 || | -10 1 0 3 > || 8.43 || Gamelisma || || || || 3136/3125 || | 6 0 -5 2 > || 6.08 || Hemimean || || || || 65625/65536 || | -16 1 5 1 > || 2.35 || Horwell || || || || 100/99 || | 2 -2 2 0 -1 > || 17.40 || Ptolemisma || || || || 176/175 || | 4 0 -2 -1 1 > || 9.86 || Valinorsma || || || || 16807/16384 || | -14 0 0 5 0 0 > || 44.13 || || || || || 91/90 || | -1 -2 -1 1 0 1 > || 19.13 || Superleap || || || || 676/675 || | 2 -3 -2 0 0 2 > || 2.56 || Parizeksma || || ||
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<html><head><title>25edo</title></head><body><!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:0:<h1> --><h1 id="toc0"><a name="x25 tone equal temperament"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:0 --><span style="color: #006b2e;">25 tone equal temperament</span></h1> <br /> 25EDO divides the octave in 25 equal steps of exact size 48 cents each. It is a good way to tune the Blackwood temperament, which takes the very sharp fifths of <a class="wiki_link" href="/5EDO">5EDO</a> as a given, tempers out 28/27 and 49/48, and attempts to optimize the tunings for 5 and 7.<br /> <br /> 25EDO has fifths 18 cents sharp, but its major thirds are excellent and its 7/4 is acceptable. It therefore makes sense to use it as a 2.5.7 <a class="wiki_link" href="/Just%20intonation%20subgroups">subgroup</a> tuning. Looking just at 2, 5, and 7, it equates five 8/7s with the octave, and so tempers out (8/7)^5 / 2 = 16807/16384. It also equates a 128/125 diesis and two septimal tritones of 7/5 with the octave, and hence tempers out 3136/3125. If we want to temper out both of these and also have decent fifths, the obvious solution is <a class="wiki_link" href="/50EDO">50EDO</a>.<br /> <br /> If 5/4 and 7/4 aren't good enough, it also does 17/16 and 19/16, just like 12EDO. In fact, on the <a class="wiki_link" href="/k%2AN%20subgroups">2*25 subgroup</a> 2.9.5.7.33.39.17.19 it provides the same tuning and tempers out the same commas as 50et, which makes for wide range of harmony.<br /> <br /> Some example of a keyboard in 25-EDO<br /> <br /> <!-- ws:start:WikiTextLocalImageRule:390:<img src="/file/view/mm25.PNG/179204243/mm25.PNG" alt="" title="" /> --><img src="/file/view/mm25.PNG/179204243/mm25.PNG" alt="mm25.PNG" title="mm25.PNG" /><!-- ws:end:WikiTextLocalImageRule:390 --><br /> <br /> <!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:2:<h2> --><h2 id="toc1"><a name="x25 tone equal temperament-Intervals"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:2 -->Intervals</h2> <br /> <table class="wiki_table"> <tr> <td>Degrees of 25-EDO<br /> </td> <td>Cents value<br /> </td> </tr> <tr> <td>0<br /> </td> <td>0<br /> </td> </tr> <tr> <td>1<br /> </td> <td>48<br /> </td> </tr> <tr> <td>2<br /> </td> <td>96<br /> </td> </tr> <tr> <td>3<br /> </td> <td>144<br /> </td> </tr> <tr> <td>4<br /> </td> <td>192<br /> </td> </tr> <tr> <td>5<br /> </td> <td>240<br /> </td> </tr> <tr> <td>6<br /> </td> <td>288<br /> </td> </tr> <tr> <td>7<br /> </td> <td>336<br /> </td> </tr> <tr> <td>8<br /> </td> <td>384<br /> </td> </tr> <tr> <td>9<br /> </td> <td>432<br /> </td> </tr> <tr> <td>10<br /> </td> <td>480<br /> </td> </tr> <tr> <td>11<br /> </td> <td>528<br /> </td> </tr> <tr> <td>12<br /> </td> <td>576<br /> </td> </tr> <tr> <td>13<br /> </td> <td>624<br /> </td> </tr> <tr> <td>14<br /> </td> <td>672<br /> </td> </tr> <tr> <td>15<br /> </td> <td>720<br /> </td> </tr> <tr> <td>16<br /> </td> <td>768<br /> </td> </tr> <tr> <td>17<br /> </td> <td>816<br /> </td> </tr> <tr> <td>18<br /> </td> <td>864<br /> </td> </tr> <tr> <td>19<br /> </td> <td>912<br /> </td> </tr> <tr> <td>20<br /> </td> <td>960<br /> </td> </tr> <tr> <td>21<br /> </td> <td>1008<br /> </td> </tr> <tr> <td>22<br /> </td> <td>1056<br /> </td> </tr> <tr> <td>23<br /> </td> <td>1104<br /> </td> </tr> <tr> <td>24<br /> </td> <td>1152<br /> </td> </tr> </table> <!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:4:<h2> --><h2 id="toc2"><a name="x25 tone equal temperament-Commas"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:4 -->Commas</h2> 25 EDO tempers out the following commas. (Note: This assumes the val < 25 40 58 70 86 93 |.)<br /> <table class="wiki_table"> <tr> <th>Comma<br /> </th> <th>Monzo<br /> </th> <th>Value (Cents)<br /> </th> <th>Name 1<br /> </th> <th>Name 2<br /> </th> <th>Name 3<br /> </th> </tr> <tr> <td>256/243<br /> </td> <td>| 8 -5 ><br /> </td> <td>90.22<br /> </td> <td>Limma<br /> </td> <td>Pythagorean Minor 2nd<br /> </td> <td><br /> </td> </tr> <tr> <td>3125/3072<br /> </td> <td>| -10 -1 5 ><br /> </td> <td>29.61<br /> </td> <td>Small Diesis<br /> </td> <td>Magic Comma<br /> </td> <td><br /> </td> </tr> <tr> <td>6719816/6714445<br /> </td> <td>| 38 -2 -15 ><br /> </td> <td>1.38<br /> </td> <td>Hemithirds Comma<br /> </td> <td><br /> </td> <td><br /> </td> </tr> <tr> <td>49/48<br /> </td> <td>| -4 -1 0 2 ><br /> </td> <td>35.70<br /> </td> <td>Slendro Diesis<br /> </td> <td><br /> </td> <td><br /> </td> </tr> <tr> <td>64/63<br /> </td> <td>| 6 -2 0 -1 ><br /> </td> <td>27.26<br /> </td> <td>Septimal Comma<br /> </td> <td>Archytas' Comma<br /> </td> <td>Leipziger Komma<br /> </td> </tr> <tr> <td>3125/3087<br /> </td> <td>| 0 -2 5 -3 ><br /> </td> <td>21.18<br /> </td> <td>Gariboh<br /> </td> <td><br /> </td> <td><br /> </td> </tr> <tr> <td>50421/50000<br /> </td> <td>| -4 1 -5 5 ><br /> </td> <td>14.52<br /> </td> <td>Trimyna<br /> </td> <td><br /> </td> <td><br /> </td> </tr> <tr> <td>1029/1024<br /> </td> <td>| -10 1 0 3 ><br /> </td> <td>8.43<br /> </td> <td>Gamelisma<br /> </td> <td><br /> </td> <td><br /> </td> </tr> <tr> <td>3136/3125<br /> </td> <td>| 6 0 -5 2 ><br /> </td> <td>6.08<br /> </td> <td>Hemimean<br /> </td> <td><br /> </td> <td><br /> </td> </tr> <tr> <td>65625/65536<br /> </td> <td>| -16 1 5 1 ><br /> </td> <td>2.35<br /> </td> <td>Horwell<br /> </td> <td><br /> </td> <td><br /> </td> </tr> <tr> <td>100/99<br /> </td> <td>| 2 -2 2 0 -1 ><br /> </td> <td>17.40<br /> </td> <td>Ptolemisma<br /> </td> <td><br /> </td> <td><br /> </td> </tr> <tr> <td>176/175<br /> </td> <td>| 4 0 -2 -1 1 ><br /> </td> <td>9.86<br /> </td> <td>Valinorsma<br /> </td> <td><br /> </td> <td><br /> </td> </tr> <tr> <td>16807/16384<br /> </td> <td>| -14 0 0 5 0 0 ><br /> </td> <td>44.13<br /> </td> <td><br /> </td> <td><br /> </td> <td><br /> </td> </tr> <tr> <td>91/90<br /> </td> <td>| -1 -2 -1 1 0 1 ><br /> </td> <td>19.13<br /> </td> <td>Superleap<br /> </td> <td><br /> </td> <td><br /> </td> </tr> <tr> <td>676/675<br /> </td> <td>| 2 -3 -2 0 0 2 ><br /> </td> <td>2.56<br /> </td> <td>Parizeksma<br /> </td> <td><br /> </td> <td><br /> </td> </tr> </table> </body></html>