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* Bill Sethares: //5-tet funk// (2004), //Pentacle// (2004)
* Bill Sethares: //5-tet funk// (2004), //Pentacle// (2004)
* [[http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=122613&amp;songID=1519939|Andrew Heathwaite: //Pinta Penta// (2004)]] [[http://clones.soonlabel.com/public/micro/gene_ward_smith/Others/Heathwaite/andrewheathwaite+pintapentain5tet.mp3|play]] (rendered in 6 alternative pentatonics as well)
* [[http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=122613&amp;songID=1519939|Andrew Heathwaite: //Pinta Penta// (2004)]] [[http://clones.soonlabel.com/public/micro/gene_ward_smith/Others/Heathwaite/andrewheathwaite+pintapentain5tet.mp3|play]] (rendered in 6 alternative pentatonics as well)
* [[Hans Straub]]: [[http://home.datacomm.ch/straub/mamuth/5tet_e.html#asimchomsaia|Asîmchômsaia]]
* [[Hans Straub]]: [[http://home.datacomm.ch/straub/mamuth/5tet_e.html#asimchomsaia|Asîmchômsaia]] [[http://clones.soonlabel.com/public/micro/gene_ward_smith/Others/Straub/asimchomsaia.mp3|play]]
* [[Brian Wong]]: [[http://bwong.ca/template1.php?sub=3|Slendronica#1b]]
* [[Brian Wong]]: [[http://bwong.ca/template1.php?sub=3|Slendronica#1b]]
* Brian McLaren: various and sundry
* Brian McLaren: various and sundry
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Also tempered out is 27/25, if we temper this out in preference to 16/15 we obtain &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Bug%20family"&gt;bug temperament&lt;/a&gt;, which equates 10/9 with 6/5: it is a little more perverse even than father. Because these intervals are so large, this sort of analysis is less significant with 5 than it becomes with larger and more accurate divisions, but it still plays a role. For example, I-IV-V-I is the same as 1-III-V-I and involves triads with common intervals because of fourth-thirds equivalence.&lt;br /&gt;
Also tempered out is 27/25, if we temper this out in preference to 16/15 we obtain &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Bug%20family"&gt;bug temperament&lt;/a&gt;, which equates 10/9 with 6/5: it is a little more perverse even than father. Because these intervals are so large, this sort of analysis is less significant with 5 than it becomes with larger and more accurate divisions, but it still plays a role. For example, I-IV-V-I is the same as 1-III-V-I and involves triads with common intervals because of fourth-thirds equivalence.&lt;br /&gt;
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Despite its lack of accuracy, 5EDO is the second Zeta function integral tuning, after 2EDO. See &lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextUrlRule:691:http://www.research.att.com/~njas/sequences/A117538 --&gt;&lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://www.research.att.com/~njas/sequences/A117538" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://www.research.att.com/~njas/sequences/A117538&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextUrlRule:691 --&gt;. It also is the smallest equal division representing the 9-limit consistently, giving a distinct value modulo five to 2, 3, 5, 7 and 9. Hence in a way similar to how &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/4edo"&gt;4edo&lt;/a&gt; can be used, and which is discussed in that article, it can be used to represent 7-limit intervals in terms of their position in a pentad, by giving a triple of integers representing a pentad in the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/The%20Seven%20Limit%20Symmetrical%20Lattices"&gt;lattice&lt;/a&gt; of tetrads/pentads together with the number of scale steps in 5EDO. However, while &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/2edo"&gt;2edo&lt;/a&gt; represents the 3-limit consistently, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/3edo"&gt;3edo&lt;/a&gt; the 5-limit, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/4edo"&gt;4edo&lt;/a&gt; the 7-limit and &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/5edo"&gt;5edo&lt;/a&gt; the 9-limit, to represent the 11-limit consistently with a &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/patent%20val"&gt;patent val&lt;/a&gt; requires going all the way to &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/22edo"&gt;22edo&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
Despite its lack of accuracy, 5EDO is the second Zeta function integral tuning, after 2EDO. See &lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextUrlRule:692:http://www.research.att.com/~njas/sequences/A117538 --&gt;&lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://www.research.att.com/~njas/sequences/A117538" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://www.research.att.com/~njas/sequences/A117538&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextUrlRule:692 --&gt;. It also is the smallest equal division representing the 9-limit consistently, giving a distinct value modulo five to 2, 3, 5, 7 and 9. Hence in a way similar to how &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/4edo"&gt;4edo&lt;/a&gt; can be used, and which is discussed in that article, it can be used to represent 7-limit intervals in terms of their position in a pentad, by giving a triple of integers representing a pentad in the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/The%20Seven%20Limit%20Symmetrical%20Lattices"&gt;lattice&lt;/a&gt; of tetrads/pentads together with the number of scale steps in 5EDO. However, while &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/2edo"&gt;2edo&lt;/a&gt; represents the 3-limit consistently, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/3edo"&gt;3edo&lt;/a&gt; the 5-limit, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/4edo"&gt;4edo&lt;/a&gt; the 7-limit and &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/5edo"&gt;5edo&lt;/a&gt; the 9-limit, to represent the 11-limit consistently with a &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/patent%20val"&gt;patent val&lt;/a&gt; requires going all the way to &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/22edo"&gt;22edo&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:10:&amp;lt;h2&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;h2 id="toc5"&gt;&lt;a name="x5 Equal Divisions of the Octave: Theory-Cycles, Divisions"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:10 --&gt;Cycles, Divisions&lt;/h2&gt;
&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:10:&amp;lt;h2&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;h2 id="toc5"&gt;&lt;a name="x5 Equal Divisions of the Octave: Theory-Cycles, Divisions"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:10 --&gt;Cycles, Divisions&lt;/h2&gt;
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  &lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:16:&amp;lt;h2&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;h2 id="toc8"&gt;&lt;a name="x5-edo in Musicmaking-Compositions, improvisations"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:16 --&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Compositions&lt;/strong&gt;, improvisations&lt;/h2&gt;
  &lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:16:&amp;lt;h2&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;h2 id="toc8"&gt;&lt;a name="x5-edo in Musicmaking-Compositions, improvisations"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:16 --&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Compositions&lt;/strong&gt;, improvisations&lt;/h2&gt;
  &lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://www.io.com/%7Ehmiller/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Herman Miller&lt;/a&gt;: &lt;em&gt;&lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://micro.soonlabel.com/herman_miller/Daybreak.mp3" rel="nofollow"&gt;Daybreak on Slendro Mountain&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt; (2000)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Aaron K. Johnson: &lt;em&gt;&lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://www.akjmusic.com/audio/5tet_funk.mp3" rel="nofollow"&gt;5tet funk&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt; (2004)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Bill Sethares: &lt;em&gt;5-tet funk&lt;/em&gt; (2004), &lt;em&gt;Pentacle&lt;/em&gt; (2004)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=122613&amp;amp;songID=1519939" rel="nofollow"&gt;Andrew Heathwaite: //Pinta Penta// (2004)&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://clones.soonlabel.com/public/micro/gene_ward_smith/Others/Heathwaite/andrewheathwaite+pintapentain5tet.mp3" rel="nofollow"&gt;play&lt;/a&gt; (rendered in 6 alternative pentatonics as well)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Hans%20Straub"&gt;Hans Straub&lt;/a&gt;: &lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://home.datacomm.ch/straub/mamuth/5tet_e.html#asimchomsaia" rel="nofollow"&gt;Asîmchômsaia&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Brian%20Wong"&gt;Brian Wong&lt;/a&gt;: &lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://bwong.ca/template1.php?sub=3" rel="nofollow"&gt;Slendronica#1b&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Brian McLaren: various and sundry&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Paul Rubenstein: various, with electric guitars in 10- and 15-edo&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;X.J.Scott: &lt;em&gt;Sleeping Through It All&lt;/em&gt; (2004)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:18:&amp;lt;h2&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;h2 id="toc9"&gt;&lt;a name="x5-edo in Musicmaking-Notation"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:18 --&gt;Notation&lt;/h2&gt;
  &lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://www.io.com/%7Ehmiller/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Herman Miller&lt;/a&gt;: &lt;em&gt;&lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://micro.soonlabel.com/herman_miller/Daybreak.mp3" rel="nofollow"&gt;Daybreak on Slendro Mountain&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt; (2000)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Aaron K. Johnson: &lt;em&gt;&lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://www.akjmusic.com/audio/5tet_funk.mp3" rel="nofollow"&gt;5tet funk&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt; (2004)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Bill Sethares: &lt;em&gt;5-tet funk&lt;/em&gt; (2004), &lt;em&gt;Pentacle&lt;/em&gt; (2004)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=122613&amp;amp;songID=1519939" rel="nofollow"&gt;Andrew Heathwaite: //Pinta Penta// (2004)&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://clones.soonlabel.com/public/micro/gene_ward_smith/Others/Heathwaite/andrewheathwaite+pintapentain5tet.mp3" rel="nofollow"&gt;play&lt;/a&gt; (rendered in 6 alternative pentatonics as well)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Hans%20Straub"&gt;Hans Straub&lt;/a&gt;: &lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://home.datacomm.ch/straub/mamuth/5tet_e.html#asimchomsaia" rel="nofollow"&gt;Asîmchômsaia&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://clones.soonlabel.com/public/micro/gene_ward_smith/Others/Straub/asimchomsaia.mp3" rel="nofollow"&gt;play&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Brian%20Wong"&gt;Brian Wong&lt;/a&gt;: &lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://bwong.ca/template1.php?sub=3" rel="nofollow"&gt;Slendronica#1b&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Brian McLaren: various and sundry&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Paul Rubenstein: various, with electric guitars in 10- and 15-edo&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;X.J.Scott: &lt;em&gt;Sleeping Through It All&lt;/em&gt; (2004)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:18:&amp;lt;h2&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;h2 id="toc9"&gt;&lt;a name="x5-edo in Musicmaking-Notation"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:18 --&gt;Notation&lt;/h2&gt;
  &lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;via Reinhard's cents notation&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Sagittal: naturals on a five-line staff, with enharmonics (used interchangably) E=F and B=C&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;a four-line hybrid treble/bass staff.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  &lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;via Reinhard's cents notation&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Sagittal: naturals on a five-line staff, with enharmonics (used interchangably) E=F and B=C&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;a four-line hybrid treble/bass staff.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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