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//50edo// divides the [[octave]] into 50 equal parts of precisely 24 [[cent]]s each. In the [[5-limit]], it tempers out 81/80, making it a [[meantone]] system, and in that capacity has historically has drawn some notice. In [[http://lit.gfax.ch/Harmonics%202nd%20Edition%20%28Robert%20Smith%29.pdf|"Harmonics or the Philosophy of Musical Sounds"]] (1759) by Robert Smith, a musical temperament is described where the octave is divided into 50 equal parts - 50edo, in one word. Later, W.S.B. Woolhouse noted it was fairly close to the [[Target tunings|least squares]] tuning for 5-limit meantone. 50edo, however, is especially interesting from a higher limit point of view. While [[31edo]] extends meantone with a [[7_4|7/4]] which is nearly pure, 50 has a flat 7/4 but both [[11_8|11/8]] and [[13_8|13/8]] are nearly pure.
//50edo// divides the [[octave]] into 50 equal parts of precisely 24 [[cent]]s each. In the [[5-limit]], it tempers out 81/80, making it a [[meantone]] system, and in that capacity has historically has drawn some notice. In [[http://lit.gfax.ch/Harmonics%202nd%20Edition%20%28Robert%20Smith%29.pdf|"Harmonics or the Philosophy of Musical Sounds"]] (1759) by Robert Smith, a musical temperament is described where the octave is divided into 50 equal parts - 50edo, in one word. Later, W.S.B. Woolhouse noted it was fairly close to the [[Target tunings|least squares]] tuning for 5-limit meantone. 50edo, however, is especially interesting from a higher limit point of view. While [[31edo]] extends meantone with a [[7_4|7/4]] which is nearly pure, 50 has a flat 7/4 but both [[11_8|11/8]] and [[13_8|13/8]] are nearly pure.


50 tempers out 126/125, 225/224 and 3136/3125 in the [[7-limit]], indicating it supports septimal meantone; 245/242, 385/384 and 540/539 in the [[11-limit]] and 105/104, 144/143 and 196/195 in the [[13-limit]], and can be used for even higher limits. Aside from meantone and its extension meanpop, it can be used to advantage for the 15&amp;50 temperament ([[http://x31eq.com/cgi-bin/rt.cgi?ets=15%2650&amp;limit=11|Coblack]]), and provides the optimal patent val for 11 and 13 limit [[Meantone family#Septimal%20meantone-Bimeantone|bimeantone]]. It is also the unique equal temperament tempering out both 81/80 and the [[vishnuzma]], [[tel:6115295232|6115295232]]/6103515625 = |23 6 -14&gt;, so that in 50et seven chromatic semitones are a perfect fourth. In 12et by comparison this gives a fifth, in 31et a doubly diminished fifth, and in 19et a diminished fourth.
50 tempers out 126/125, 225/224 and 3136/3125 in the [[7-limit]], indicating it supports septimal meantone; 245/242, 385/384 and 540/539 in the [[11-limit]] and 105/104, 144/143 and 196/195 in the [[13-limit]], and can be used for even higher limits. Aside from meantone and its extension meanpop, it can be used to advantage for the 15&amp;50 temperament ([[http://x31eq.com/cgi-bin/rt.cgi?ets=15%2650&amp;limit=11|Coblack]]), and provides the optimal patent val for 11 and 13 limit [[Meantone family#Septimal%20meantone-Bimeantone|bimeantone]]. It is also the unique equal temperament tempering out both 81/80 and the [[vishnuzma]], |23 6 -14&gt;, so that in 50et seven chromatic semitones are a perfect fourth. In 12et by comparison this gives a fifth, in 31et a doubly diminished fifth, and in 19et a diminished fourth.


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=Commas=  
=Commas=  
50 EDO tempers out the following commas. (Note: This assumes the val &lt; 50 79 116 140 173/1 185 204 212 226/1 |, comma values in cents rounded to 2 decimal places.) This list is not all-inclusive, and is based on the interval table from Scala version 2.2.
50 EDO tempers out the following commas. (Note: This assumes the val &lt; [[tel:50 79 116 140 173|50 79 116 140 173]]/1 [[tel:185 204 212 226|185 204 212 226]]/1 |, comma values in cents rounded to 2 decimal places.) This list is not all-inclusive, and is based on the interval table from Scala version 2.2.
||~ Monzo ||~ Cents ||~ Ratio ||~ Name 1 ||~ Name 2 ||
||~ Monzo ||~ Cents ||~ Ratio ||~ Name 1 ||~ Name 2 ||
|| | -4 4 -1 &gt; ||&gt; 21.51 ||= 81/80 || Syntonic comma || Didymus comma ||
|| | -4 4 -1 &gt; ||&gt; 21.51 ||= 81/80 || Syntonic comma || Didymus comma ||
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|| | -6 -8 2 5 &gt; ||&gt; 1.12 ||=  || Wizma ||  ||
|| | -6 -8 2 5 &gt; ||&gt; 1.12 ||=  || Wizma ||  ||
|| |-11 2 7 -3 &gt; ||&gt; 1.63 ||=  || Meter ||  ||
|| |-11 2 7 -3 &gt; ||&gt; 1.63 ||=  || Meter ||  ||
|| | 11 -10 -10 10/1 &gt; ||&gt; 5.57 ||=  || Linus ||  ||
|| | [[tel:11 -10 -10 10|11 -10 -10 10]]/1 &gt; ||&gt; 5.57 ||=  || Linus ||  ||
|| |-13 10 0 -1 &gt; ||&gt; 50.72 ||= 59049/57344 || Harrison's comma ||  ||
|| |-13 10 0 -1 &gt; ||&gt; 50.72 ||= 59049/57344 || Harrison's comma ||  ||
|| | 2 3 1 -2 -1 &gt; ||&gt; 3.21 ||= 540/539 || Swets' comma || Swetisma ||
|| | 2 3 1 -2 -1 &gt; ||&gt; 3.21 ||= 540/539 || Swets' comma || Swetisma ||
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&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:19 --&gt;&lt;em&gt;50edo&lt;/em&gt; divides the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/octave"&gt;octave&lt;/a&gt; into 50 equal parts of precisely 24 &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/cent"&gt;cent&lt;/a&gt;s each. In the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/5-limit"&gt;5-limit&lt;/a&gt;, it tempers out 81/80, making it a &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/meantone"&gt;meantone&lt;/a&gt; system, and in that capacity has historically has drawn some notice. In &lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://lit.gfax.ch/Harmonics%202nd%20Edition%20%28Robert%20Smith%29.pdf" rel="nofollow"&gt;&amp;quot;Harmonics or the Philosophy of Musical Sounds&amp;quot;&lt;/a&gt; (1759) by Robert Smith, a musical temperament is described where the octave is divided into 50 equal parts - 50edo, in one word. Later, W.S.B. Woolhouse noted it was fairly close to the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Target%20tunings"&gt;least squares&lt;/a&gt; tuning for 5-limit meantone. 50edo, however, is especially interesting from a higher limit point of view. While &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/31edo"&gt;31edo&lt;/a&gt; extends meantone with a &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/7_4"&gt;7/4&lt;/a&gt; which is nearly pure, 50 has a flat 7/4 but both &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/11_8"&gt;11/8&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/13_8"&gt;13/8&lt;/a&gt; are nearly pure.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:19 --&gt;&lt;em&gt;50edo&lt;/em&gt; divides the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/octave"&gt;octave&lt;/a&gt; into 50 equal parts of precisely 24 &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/cent"&gt;cent&lt;/a&gt;s each. In the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/5-limit"&gt;5-limit&lt;/a&gt;, it tempers out 81/80, making it a &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/meantone"&gt;meantone&lt;/a&gt; system, and in that capacity has historically has drawn some notice. In &lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://lit.gfax.ch/Harmonics%202nd%20Edition%20%28Robert%20Smith%29.pdf" rel="nofollow"&gt;&amp;quot;Harmonics or the Philosophy of Musical Sounds&amp;quot;&lt;/a&gt; (1759) by Robert Smith, a musical temperament is described where the octave is divided into 50 equal parts - 50edo, in one word. Later, W.S.B. Woolhouse noted it was fairly close to the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Target%20tunings"&gt;least squares&lt;/a&gt; tuning for 5-limit meantone. 50edo, however, is especially interesting from a higher limit point of view. While &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/31edo"&gt;31edo&lt;/a&gt; extends meantone with a &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/7_4"&gt;7/4&lt;/a&gt; which is nearly pure, 50 has a flat 7/4 but both &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/11_8"&gt;11/8&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/13_8"&gt;13/8&lt;/a&gt; are nearly pure.&lt;br /&gt;
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50 tempers out 126/125, 225/224 and 3136/3125 in the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/7-limit"&gt;7-limit&lt;/a&gt;, indicating it supports septimal meantone; 245/242, 385/384 and 540/539 in the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/11-limit"&gt;11-limit&lt;/a&gt; and 105/104, 144/143 and 196/195 in the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/13-limit"&gt;13-limit&lt;/a&gt;, and can be used for even higher limits. Aside from meantone and its extension meanpop, it can be used to advantage for the 15&amp;amp;50 temperament (&lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://x31eq.com/cgi-bin/rt.cgi?ets=15%2650&amp;amp;limit=11" rel="nofollow"&gt;Coblack&lt;/a&gt;), and provides the optimal patent val for 11 and 13 limit &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Meantone%20family#Septimal%20meantone-Bimeantone"&gt;bimeantone&lt;/a&gt;. It is also the unique equal temperament tempering out both 81/80 and the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/vishnuzma"&gt;vishnuzma&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="http://tel.wikispaces.com/6115295232"&gt;6115295232&lt;/a&gt;/6103515625 = |23 6 -14&amp;gt;, so that in 50et seven chromatic semitones are a perfect fourth. In 12et by comparison this gives a fifth, in 31et a doubly diminished fifth, and in 19et a diminished fourth.&lt;br /&gt;
50 tempers out 126/125, 225/224 and 3136/3125 in the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/7-limit"&gt;7-limit&lt;/a&gt;, indicating it supports septimal meantone; 245/242, 385/384 and 540/539 in the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/11-limit"&gt;11-limit&lt;/a&gt; and 105/104, 144/143 and 196/195 in the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/13-limit"&gt;13-limit&lt;/a&gt;, and can be used for even higher limits. Aside from meantone and its extension meanpop, it can be used to advantage for the 15&amp;amp;50 temperament (&lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://x31eq.com/cgi-bin/rt.cgi?ets=15%2650&amp;amp;limit=11" rel="nofollow"&gt;Coblack&lt;/a&gt;), and provides the optimal patent val for 11 and 13 limit &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Meantone%20family#Septimal%20meantone-Bimeantone"&gt;bimeantone&lt;/a&gt;. It is also the unique equal temperament tempering out both 81/80 and the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/vishnuzma"&gt;vishnuzma&lt;/a&gt;, |23 6 -14&amp;gt;, so that in 50et seven chromatic semitones are a perfect fourth. In 12et by comparison this gives a fifth, in 31et a doubly diminished fifth, and in 19et a diminished fourth.&lt;br /&gt;
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  50 EDO tempers out the following commas. (Note: This assumes the val &amp;lt; 50 79 116 140 173/1 185 204 212 226/1 |, comma values in cents rounded to 2 decimal places.) This list is not all-inclusive, and is based on the interval table from Scala version 2.2.&lt;br /&gt;
  50 EDO tempers out the following commas. (Note: This assumes the val &amp;lt; &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="http://tel.wikispaces.com/50%2079%20116%20140%20173"&gt;50 79 116 140 173&lt;/a&gt;/1 &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="http://tel.wikispaces.com/185%20204%20212%20226"&gt;185 204 212 226&lt;/a&gt;/1 |, comma values in cents rounded to 2 decimal places.) This list is not all-inclusive, and is based on the interval table from Scala version 2.2.&lt;br /&gt;




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