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The TE tuning in cents is: 146.636 174.055 320.690 467.326 494.745 641.381 704.524 851.159 878.579 1025.214 1171.849 1199.269 | The TE tuning in cents is: 146.636 174.055 320.690 467.326 494.745 641.381 704.524 851.159 878.579 1025.214 1171.849 1199.269 | ||
Note the more complex intervals: 55/54, 55/36, 72/55, and 108/55. If we temper out an additional comma, we can equate these with simpler intervals, adding prime 13: Tempering out 144/143, these four interval approximate 40/39, 20/13, 13/10, and 39/20 respectively. Tempering out 144/143 also means that the small step of the porcutone diatonic, equivalently the large step of the porcutone chromatic approximates 13/12, which, when all three are justly tuned, lies between the other intervals approximated by the step - 27/25, and 12/11. | |||
This leads to a step signature, mapping, and TE tuning of 7L 1m 4s = (27/25~12/11~13/12, 25/24~33/32~27/26, 250/243~55/54~121/120~40/39) = (142.77537c, 66.76626c, 33.11646c). | |||
Mode -3 approximates the JI ratios: 40/39 10/9 6/5 11/9 4/3 11/8 3/2 20/13 5/3 9/5 11/6 2/1, with step pattern sLLsLmLsLLsL. | |||
The TE tuning in cents is: 33.116 175.892 318.667 351.784 494.559 561.325 704.101 737.217 879.992 1022.768 1055.884 1198.660 as D♯ E F F♯ G G♯ A A♯ B C C♯ D | |||
Mode 3 approximates the JI ratios: 12/11 10/9 6/5 13/10 4/3 16/11 3/2 18/11 5/3 9/5 39/20 2/1, with step pattern LsLLsLmLsLLs. | |||
The TE tuning in cents is: 142.775 175.892 318.667 461.443 494.559 637.334 704.101 846.876 879.992 1022.768 1165.543 1198.660 as E♭ E F G♭ G A♭ A B♭ B C D♭ D | |||
I find this tuning to be melodically superior, given the small step is 6 cents large, now a sixth tone rather than an eight tone. | |||
If a full 13-limit tuning is desired, there are two options. The interval approximating 13/10 may either be tempered to approximate 21/16, leading to Supermagic, or 7/6, leading to Thrasher. The Supermagic tuning decreases the size of the small step, and the Starling tuning increases it. The Supermagic tuning reduces to Flattone (where 7/4 is found at a diminished 7th) and Porcupine (where 7/4 is found at a minor seventh), and the Starling tuning reduces to Meanenneadecal and Opossum (both where 7/4 is found at an augmented 6th). If we temper to 13/10 to equate to both 9/7 and 21/16, we get Keema, an extension of Hanson temperament. Keema[7] comprises 4 large steps of 247.695c, and 3 small steps of 69.682c. | |||
The ptolemismic porcutone chromatic scale is distinctly xenharmonic, and yet is related to the familiar chromatic scale. | The ptolemismic porcutone chromatic scale is distinctly xenharmonic, and yet is related to the familiar chromatic scale. | ||
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|D♯ | |D♯ | ||
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|E | |E | ||
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|F | |F | ||
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|(14:16:21 or 6:7:9) | |(14:16:21 or 6:7:9) | ||
4:5:6 | 4:5:6 | ||
| | |242.658, 704.101 | ||
385.433, 704.101 | |||
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|F♯ | |F♯ | ||
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|22:27:33 | |22:27:33 | ||
4:5:6 | 4:5:6 | ||
| | |352.317, 704.101 | ||
385.433, 704.101 | |||
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|G | |G | ||
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|(14:16:21 or 6:7:9) | |(14:16:21 or 6:7:9) | ||
4:5:6 | 4:5:6 | ||
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385.433, 704.101 | |||
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|G♯ | |G♯ | ||
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| | |318.667, 670.451 | ||
461.443, 704.101 | |||
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|A | |A | ||
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27:33:40 | 27:33:40 | ||
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351.784, 670.451 | |||
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|A♯ | |A♯ | ||
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|40:48:63 | |40:48:63 | ||
80:105:126 | 80:105:126 | ||
| | |318.667, 780.120 | ||
467.325, | 467.325, 780.120 | ||
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|B | |B | ||
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|135:150:198 | |135:150:198 | ||
27:33:40 | 27:33:40 | ||
|201.475, | |201.475, 670.451 | ||
351.784, 670.451 | |||
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|C♯ | |C♯ | ||
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Note the major minor third approximating 11/9 and the minor major third approximating 27/22 are very similar in size in this tuning (351.784 and 352.317 respectively). If we equate these intervals, we additionally temper out 243/242, leading to an extension of Tetracot (Wollemia or Monkey is we also equate 13/10 with 9/7 or 21/16 respectively). Tetracot[7] comprises 6 of our porcutone diatonic medium step (tuned to 176.0044c) and one remaining step of our porcutone diatonic small step (tuned to 142.6653c). | |||
As with the porcutone diatonic, tuning the porcutone chromatic to 19edo collapses it to the Meantone[12] (Flattone[12]) chromatic scale. Tuning it to 15edo, 22edo, or 29edo collapses it to Porcupine[8]. Step signatures, mappings and sizes for tunings to 27edo, 34edo, and 41edo are as follows: | As with the porcutone diatonic, tuning the porcutone chromatic to 19edo collapses it to the Meantone[12] (Flattone[12]) chromatic scale. Tuning it to 15edo, 22edo, or 29edo collapses it to Porcupine[8]. Step signatures, mappings and sizes for tunings to 27edo, 34edo, and 41edo are as follows: | ||
27edo: 7L 1m 4s = (3, 2, 1) = (133.3333c, 88.8889c, 44.4444c) ( | 27edo: 7L 1m 4s = (3, 2, 1) = (133.3333c, 88.8889c, 44.4444c) (dim min 4 is 9/7 - Starling) | ||
34edo: 7L 1m 4s = (4, 2, 1) = (141.1765c, 70.5882c, 35.2941c) ( | 34edo: 7L 1m 4s = (4, 2, 1) = (141.1765c, 70.5882c, 35.2941c) (dim min 4 is 9/7 and 21/16 - Supermagic or Starling) | ||
41edo: 7L 1m 4s = (5, 2, 1) = (146.3415c, 58.5366c, 29.2683c) ( | 41edo: 7L 1m 4s = (5, 2, 1) = (146.3415c, 58.5366c, 29.2683c) (dim min 4 is 21/16 - Supermagic) | ||
All three of these edos also temper out 243/242, so the major minor and minor major thirds collapse to a single interval - the neutral third, and the diatonic scale can be considered a MODMOS of Tetracot[7] i.e. porcutone msmLmsm = Tetracot LsLALsL. | |||
And allowing octave stretch, the tuning may be optimized via TE tuning to: | And allowing octave stretch, the tuning may be optimized via TE tuning to: | ||
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For comparison, the TE step signature and sizes for the ptolemismic porcupine chromatic is | For comparison, the TE step signature and sizes for the ptolemismic porcupine chromatic is | ||
7L 1m 4s = ( | 7L 1m 4s = (142.77537c, 66.76626c, 33.11646c), | ||
the TE step signature and sizes for the Supermagic porcutone chromatic is | |||
7L 1m 4s = (145.47082c, 58.39270c, 30.85183c), | |||
and the TE step signature and sizes for the | and the TE step signature and sizes for the Thrasher porcutone chromatic is | ||
7L 1m 4s = ( | 7L 1m 4s = (136.27690c, 81.02531c, 40.63434c). | ||
I like to keep the small step large enough to sound like a melodic interval, so I either tune to TE ptolemismic, or to 41edo if an equal tuning is desired. | I like to keep the small step large enough to sound like a melodic interval, so I either tune to TE ptolemismic, or to 41edo if an equal tuning is desired. | ||