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The [[meantone]] pentatonic scale, in which the generator approximates 4/3 but other intervals in the scale approximate 6/5 and 5/4, has by far the lowest harmonic entropy of all 5-note MOS scales, which explains the worldwide popularity of these scales and their very long history of use. It is also strictly [[Rothenberg propriety|proper]]. | The [[meantone]] pentatonic scale, in which the generator approximates 4/3 but other intervals in the scale approximate 6/5 and 5/4, has by far the lowest harmonic entropy of all 5-note MOS scales, which explains the worldwide popularity of these scales and their very long history of use. It is also strictly [[Rothenberg propriety|proper]]. | ||
||||||||||||~ Generator ||~ Cents ||~ s ||~ L-s ||~ |L-2s| ||~ | ||||||||||||~ Generator ||~ Cents ||~ s ||~ L-s ||~ |L-2s| ||~ Scale steps ||~ Comments || | ||
|| 2\5 || || || || || || 480 || 240 || 0 || 240 || 1 1 ||= || | || 2\5 || || || || || || 480 || 240 || 0 || 240 || 1 1 1 1 1 ||= || | ||
|| || || || || || 11\27 || 488.89 || 222.22 || 44.44 || 177.78 || 6 5 ||= Slendro | || || || || || || 11\27 || 488.89 || 222.22 || 44.44 || 177.78 || 6 5 5 6 5 ||= Slendro (insofar as it resembles a MOS) | ||
|| || || || || 9\22 || || 490.91 || 218.18 || 54.545 || 163.64 || 5 4 ||= || | would be in this region || | ||
|| || || || || || 16\39 || 492.31 || 215.38 || 61.54 || 153.85 || 9 7 ||= No-5's superpyth/dominant is around here || | || || || || || 9\22 || || 490.91 || 218.18 || 54.545 || 163.64 || 5 4 4 5 4 ||= || | ||
|| || || || 7\17 || || || 494.12 || 211.76 || 70.59 || 141.18 || 4 3 ||= || | || || || || || || 16\39 || 492.31 || 215.38 || 61.54 || 153.85 || 9 7 7 9 7 ||= No-5's superpyth/dominant is around here || | ||
|| || || || || || 19\46 || 495.65 || 208.7 || 78.26 || 130.435 || 11 8 || || | || || || || 7\17 || || || 494.12 || 211.76 || 70.59 || 141.18 || 4 3 3 4 3 ||= || | ||
|| || || || || 12\29 || || 496.55 || 206.9 || 82.76 || 124.14 || 7 5 ||= || | || || || || || || 19\46 || 495.65 || 208.7 || 78.26 || 130.435 || 11 8 8 11 8 || || | ||
|| || || || || || 17\41 || 497.56 || 204.88 || 87.8 || 117.07 || 10 7 ||= Pythagorean pentatonic is around here || | || || || || || 12\29 || || 496.55 || 206.9 || 82.76 || 124.14 || 7 5 5 7 5 ||= || | ||
|| || || 5\12 || || || || 500 || 200 || 100 || 100 || 3 2 ||= Familiar 12-equal pentatonic | || || || || || || 17\41 || 497.56 || 204.88 || 87.8 || 117.07 || 10 7 7 10 7 ||= Pythagorean pentatonic is around here || | ||
|| || || 5\12 || || || || 500 || 200 || 100 || 100 || 3 2 2 3 2 ||= Familiar 12-equal pentatonic | |||
(also optimum rank range: L/s=3/2) || | (also optimum rank range: L/s=3/2) || | ||
|| || || || || || || 502.305 || 195.39 || 111.53 || 83.86 || pi 2 || || | || || || || || || || 502.305 || 195.39 || 111.53 || 83.86 || pi 2 pi 2 2 || || | ||
|| || || || || || 18\43 || 502.33 || 195.35 || 111.63 || 83.72 || 11 7 || || | || || || || || || 18\43 || 502.33 || 195.35 || 111.63 || 83.72 || 11 7 7 11 7 || || | ||
|| || || || || 13\31 || || 503.23 || 193.55 || 116.13 || 77.42 || 8 5 ||= Optimal meantone pentatonic | || || || || || 13\31 || || 503.23 || 193.55 || 116.13 || 77.42 || 8 5 5 8 5 ||= Optimal meantone pentatonic | ||
is around here || | is around here || | ||
|| || || || || || || 1200/(4-phi) || 192.43 || 118.93 || 73.50 || phi 1 ||= Golden meantone || | || || || || || || || 1200/(4-phi) || 192.43 || 118.93 || 73.50 || phi 1 1 phi 1 ||= Golden meantone || | ||
|| || || || || || 21\50 || 504 || 192 || 120 || 72 || 13 8 ||= || | || || || || || || 21\50 || 504 || 192 || 120 || 72 || 13 8 8 13 8 ||= || | ||
|| || || || 8\19 || || || 505.26 || 189.47 || 126.32 || 63.16 || 5 3 ||= || | || || || || 8\19 || || || 505.26 || 189.47 || 126.32 || 63.16 || 5 3 3 5 3 ||= || | ||
|| || || || || || 19\45 || 506.67 || 186.67 || 133.33 || 53.33 || 12 7 || || | || || || || || || 19\45 || 506.67 || 186.67 || 133.33 || 53.33 || 12 7 7 12 7 || || | ||
|| || || || || || || 507.18 || 185.64 || 135.9 || 49.74 || √3 1 || || | || || || || || || || 507.18 || 185.64 || 135.9 || 49.74 || √3 1 √3 1 1 || || | ||
|| || || || || 11\26 || || 507.69 || 184.615 || 138.46 || 46.15 || 7 4 || || | || || || || || 11\26 || || 507.69 || 184.615 || 138.46 || 46.15 || 7 4 4 7 4 || || | ||
|| || || || || || 14\33 || 509.09 || 181.82 || 145.455 || 36.36 || 9 5 || || | || || || || || || 14\33 || 509.09 || 181.82 || 145.455 || 36.36 || 9 5 5 9 5 || || | ||
|| || 3\7 || || || || || 514.29 || 171.43 || 171.43 || 0 || 2 1 ||= (Boundary of propriety: smaller | || || 3\7 || || || || || 514.29 || 171.43 || 171.43 || 0 || 2 1 1 2 1 ||= (Boundary of propriety: smaller | ||
generators than this are strictly proper) || | generators than this are strictly proper) || | ||
|| || || || || || 13\30 || 520 || 160 || 200 || 40 || 9 4 || || | || || || || || || 13\30 || 520 || 160 || 200 || 40 || 9 4 4 9 4 || || | ||
||< ||< ||< ||< ||< 10\23 ||< ||< 521.74 ||< 156.52 ||< 208.7 ||< 52.17 ||< 7 3 ||< || | ||< ||< ||< ||< ||< 10\23 ||< ||< 521.74 ||< 156.52 ||< 208.7 ||< 52.17 ||< 7 3 3 7 3 ||< || | ||
|| || || || || || 17\39 || 523.08 || 153.84 || 215.385 || 61.54 || 12 5 || || | || || || || || || 17\39 || 523.08 || 153.84 || 215.385 || 61.54 || 12 5 5 12 5 || || | ||
|| || || || 7\16 || || || 525 || 150 || 225 || 75 || 5 2 ||= | || || || || 7\16 || || || 525 || 150 || 225 || 75 || 5 2 2 5 2 ||= 5-note subset of pelog (insofar as it | ||
|| || || || || || 18\41 || 526.83 || 146.34 || 234.15 || 87.8 || 13 5 || || | resembles a MOS) would be in this region || | ||
|| || || || || || || 600(25+√5)/31 || 145.7 || 235.75 || 90.05 || phi+1 1 || || | || || || || || || 18\41 || 526.83 || 146.34 || 234.15 || 87.8 || 13 5 5 13 5 || || | ||
|| || || || || 11\25 || || 528 || 144 || 240 || 96 || 8 3 || || | || || || || || || || 600(25+√5)/31 || 145.7 || 235.75 || 90.05 || phi+1 1 1 phi+1 1 || || | ||
|| || || || || || || 528.88 || 142.24 || 244.405 || 102.17 || e 1 ||= L/s = e || | || || || || || 11\25 || || 528 || 144 || 240 || 96 || 8 3 3 8 3 || || | ||
|| || || || || || 15\34 || 529.41 || 141.18 || 247.06 || 105.88 || 11 4 || || | || || || || || || || 528.88 || 142.24 || 244.405 || 102.17 || e 1 e 1 1 ||= L/s = e || | ||
|| || || 4\9 || || || || 533.33 || 133.33 || 266.67 || 133.33 || 3 1 ||= L/s = 3 || | || || || || || || 15\34 || 529.41 || 141.18 || 247.06 || 105.88 || 11 4 4 11 4 || || | ||
|| || || || || || || 535.36 || 129.26 || 276.835 || 147.57 || pi 1 ||= <span style="display: block; text-align: center;">L/s = pi</span> || | || || || 4\9 || || || || 533.33 || 133.33 || 266.67 || 133.33 || 3 1 1 3 1 ||= L/s = 3 || | ||
|| || || || || || 13\29 || 537.93 || 124.14 || 289.655 || 165.52 || 10 3 || || | || || || || || || || 535.36 || 129.26 || 276.835 || 147.57 || pi 1 pi 1 1 ||= <span style="display: block; text-align: center;">L/s = pi</span> || | ||
|| || || || || 9\20 || || 540 || 120 || 240 || 180 || 7 2 || || | || || || || || || 13\29 || 537.93 || 124.14 || 289.655 || 165.52 || 10 3 3 10 3 || || | ||
|| || || || || || 14\31 || 541.935 || 116.13 || 309.68 || 193.55 || 11 3 || || | || || || || || 9\20 || || 540 || 120 || 240 || 180 || 7 2 2 7 2 || || | ||
|| || || || 5\11 || || || 545.45 || 109.09 || 327.27 || 218.18 || 4 1 ||= L/s = 4 || | || || || || || || 14\31 || 541.935 || 116.13 || 309.68 || 193.55 || 11 3 3 11 3 || || | ||
|| || || || || || 11\24 || 550 || 100 || 350 || 250 || 9 2 || || | || || || || 5\11 || || || 545.45 || 109.09 || 327.27 || 218.18 || 4 1 1 4 1 ||= L/s = 4 || | ||
|| || || || || 6\13 || || 553.85 || 92.31 || 369.23 || 276.92 || 5 1 || || | || || || || || || 11\24 || 550 || 100 || 350 || 250 || 9 2 2 9 2 || || | ||
|| || || || || || 7\15 || 560 || 80 || 480 || 400 || 6 1 || || | || || || || || 6\13 || || 553.85 || 92.31 || 369.23 || 276.92 || 5 1 1 5 1 || || | ||
|| || || || || || 7\15 || 560 || 80 || 480 || 400 || 6 1 1 6 1 || || | |||
|| 1\2 || || || || || || 600 || 0 || 600 || 600 || 1 0 0 1 0 ||= || | || 1\2 || || || || || || 600 || 0 || 600 || 600 || 1 0 0 1 0 ||= || | ||
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<th>|L-2s|<br /> | <th>|L-2s|<br /> | ||
</th> | </th> | ||
<th> | <th>Scale steps<br /> | ||
</th> | </th> | ||
<th>Comments<br /> | <th>Comments<br /> | ||
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<td>240<br /> | <td>240<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>1 1<br /> | <td>1 1 1 1 1<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td style="text-align: center;"><br /> | <td style="text-align: center;"><br /> | ||
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<td>177.78<br /> | <td>177.78<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>6 5<br /> | <td>6 5 5 6 5<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td style="text-align: center;">Slendro | <td style="text-align: center;">Slendro (insofar as it resembles a MOS)<br /> | ||
would be in this region<br /> | |||
</td> | </td> | ||
</tr> | </tr> | ||
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<td>163.64<br /> | <td>163.64<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>5 4<br /> | <td>5 4 4 5 4<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td style="text-align: center;"><br /> | <td style="text-align: center;"><br /> | ||
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<td>153.85<br /> | <td>153.85<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>9 7<br /> | <td>9 7 7 9 7<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td style="text-align: center;">No-5's superpyth/dominant is around here<br /> | <td style="text-align: center;">No-5's superpyth/dominant is around here<br /> | ||
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<td>141.18<br /> | <td>141.18<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>4 3<br /> | <td>4 3 3 4 3<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td style="text-align: center;"><br /> | <td style="text-align: center;"><br /> | ||
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<td>130.435<br /> | <td>130.435<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>11 8<br /> | <td>11 8 8 11 8<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td><br /> | <td><br /> | ||
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<td>124.14<br /> | <td>124.14<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>7 5<br /> | <td>7 5 5 7 5<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td style="text-align: center;"><br /> | <td style="text-align: center;"><br /> | ||
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<td>117.07<br /> | <td>117.07<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>10 7<br /> | <td>10 7 7 10 7<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td style="text-align: center;">Pythagorean pentatonic is around here<br /> | <td style="text-align: center;">Pythagorean pentatonic is around here<br /> | ||
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<td>100<br /> | <td>100<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>3 2<br /> | <td>3 2 2 3 2<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td style="text-align: center;">Familiar 12-equal pentatonic<br /> | <td style="text-align: center;">Familiar 12-equal pentatonic<br /> | ||
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<td>83.86<br /> | <td>83.86<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>pi 2<br /> | <td>pi 2 pi 2 2<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td><br /> | <td><br /> | ||
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<td>83.72<br /> | <td>83.72<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>11 7<br /> | <td>11 7 7 11 7<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td><br /> | <td><br /> | ||
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<td>77.42<br /> | <td>77.42<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>8 5<br /> | <td>8 5 5 8 5<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td style="text-align: center;">Optimal meantone pentatonic<br /> | <td style="text-align: center;">Optimal meantone pentatonic<br /> | ||
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<td>73.50<br /> | <td>73.50<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>phi 1<br /> | <td>phi 1 1 phi 1<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td style="text-align: center;">Golden meantone<br /> | <td style="text-align: center;">Golden meantone<br /> | ||
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<td>72<br /> | <td>72<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>13 8<br /> | <td>13 8 8 13 8<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td style="text-align: center;"><br /> | <td style="text-align: center;"><br /> | ||
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<td>63.16<br /> | <td>63.16<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>5 3<br /> | <td>5 3 3 5 3<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td style="text-align: center;"><br /> | <td style="text-align: center;"><br /> | ||
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<td>53.33<br /> | <td>53.33<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>12 7<br /> | <td>12 7 7 12 7<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td><br /> | <td><br /> | ||
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<td>49.74<br /> | <td>49.74<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>√3 1<br /> | <td>√3 1 √3 1 1<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td><br /> | <td><br /> | ||
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<td>46.15<br /> | <td>46.15<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>7 4<br /> | <td>7 4 4 7 4<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td><br /> | <td><br /> | ||
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<td>36.36<br /> | <td>36.36<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>9 5<br /> | <td>9 5 5 9 5<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td><br /> | <td><br /> | ||
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<td>0<br /> | <td>0<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>2 1<br /> | <td>2 1 1 2 1<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td style="text-align: center;">(Boundary of propriety: smaller<br /> | <td style="text-align: center;">(Boundary of propriety: smaller<br /> | ||
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<td>40<br /> | <td>40<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>9 4<br /> | <td>9 4 4 9 4<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td><br /> | <td><br /> | ||
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<td style="text-align: left;">52.17<br /> | <td style="text-align: left;">52.17<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td style="text-align: left;">7 3<br /> | <td style="text-align: left;">7 3 3 7 3<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td style="text-align: left;"><br /> | <td style="text-align: left;"><br /> | ||
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<td>61.54<br /> | <td>61.54<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>12 5<br /> | <td>12 5 5 12 5<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td><br /> | <td><br /> | ||
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<td>75<br /> | <td>75<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>5 2<br /> | <td>5 2 2 5 2<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td style="text-align: center;"> | <td style="text-align: center;">5-note subset of pelog (insofar as it<br /> | ||
resembles a MOS) would be in this region<br /> | |||
</td> | </td> | ||
</tr> | </tr> | ||
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<td>87.8<br /> | <td>87.8<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>13 5<br /> | <td>13 5 5 13 5<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td><br /> | <td><br /> | ||
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<td>90.05<br /> | <td>90.05<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>phi+1 1<br /> | <td>phi+1 1 1 phi+1 1<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td><br /> | <td><br /> | ||
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<td>96<br /> | <td>96<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>8 3<br /> | <td>8 3 3 8 3<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td><br /> | <td><br /> | ||
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<td>102.17<br /> | <td>102.17<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>e 1<br /> | <td>e 1 e 1 1<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td style="text-align: center;">L/s = e<br /> | <td style="text-align: center;">L/s = e<br /> | ||
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<td>105.88<br /> | <td>105.88<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>11 4<br /> | <td>11 4 4 11 4<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td><br /> | <td><br /> | ||
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<td>133.33<br /> | <td>133.33<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>3 1<br /> | <td>3 1 1 3 1<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td style="text-align: center;">L/s = 3<br /> | <td style="text-align: center;">L/s = 3<br /> | ||
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<td>147.57<br /> | <td>147.57<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>pi 1<br /> | <td>pi 1 pi 1 1<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td style="text-align: center;"><span style="display: block; text-align: center;">L/s = pi</span><br /> | <td style="text-align: center;"><span style="display: block; text-align: center;">L/s = pi</span><br /> | ||
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<td>165.52<br /> | <td>165.52<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>10 3<br /> | <td>10 3 3 10 3<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td><br /> | <td><br /> | ||
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<td>180<br /> | <td>180<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>7 2<br /> | <td>7 2 2 7 2<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td><br /> | <td><br /> | ||
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<td>193.55<br /> | <td>193.55<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>11 3<br /> | <td>11 3 3 11 3<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td><br /> | <td><br /> | ||
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<td>218.18<br /> | <td>218.18<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>4 1<br /> | <td>4 1 1 4 1<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td style="text-align: center;">L/s = 4<br /> | <td style="text-align: center;">L/s = 4<br /> | ||
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<td>250<br /> | <td>250<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>9 2<br /> | <td>9 2 2 9 2<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td><br /> | <td><br /> | ||
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<td>276.92<br /> | <td>276.92<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>5 1<br /> | <td>5 1 1 5 1<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td><br /> | <td><br /> | ||
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<td>400<br /> | <td>400<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>6 1<br /> | <td>6 1 1 6 1<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td><br /> | <td><br /> | ||