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29 is the lowest edo which approximates the [[3_2|3:2]] just fifth more accurately than [[12edo]]: 3/2 = 701.955... cents; 17 degrees of 29edo = 703.448... cents. Since the fifth is slightly sharp, 29edo is a [[positive temperament]] -- a Superpythagorean instead of a Meantone system.

The 3 is the only harmonic, of the intelligibly low ones anyway, that 29-edo approximates, and it does so quite well. Hence one possible use for 29edo is as an equally tempered pythagorean scale. However, it represents the 2.3.11/5.13/5 subgroup to very high accuracy, and 2.3.7/5.11/5.13/5 to a lesser but still good accuracy, and so can be used with this subgroup, which is liberally supplied with chords such as the 1-11/7-13/7 chord, the [[The Archipelago|barbados triad]] 1-13/10-3/2, the minor barbados triad 1-15/13-3/2, the 1-14/11-3/2 triad and the 1-13/11-3/2 triad. 29 tempers out 352/351, 676/675 and 4000/3993 from the 2.3.11/5.13/5 subgroup, and in addition 196/195 and 364/363 from the 2.3.7/5.11/5.13/5 subgroup, so we have various relationships from the tempering, such as the fact that the 1-13/11-3/2 chord and the 1-14/11-3/2 chord are inverses of each other, a major-minor pairing. A larger subgroup containing both of these subgroups is 2.3.125.175.275.325; on this subgroup 29 tunes the same as 87, and the commas of 29 on this subgroup are the same as the 13-limit commas of 87. Still another subgroup of interest is 2.3.25.35.55.65.85; on this subgroup 29 tunes the same as 58 and has the same 17-limit commas.

The 3 is the only harmonic, of the intelligibly low ones anyway, that 29-edo approximates, and it does so quite well. Hence one possible use for 29edo is as an equally tempered pythagorean scale. However, it represents the 2.3.11/5.13/5 subgroup to very high accuracy, and 2.3.7/5.11/5.13/5 to a lesser but still good accuracy, and so can be used with this subgroup, which is liberally supplied with chords such as the 1-11/7-13/7 chord, the [[The Archipelago|barbados triad]] 1-13/10-3/2, the minor barbados triad 1-15/13-3/2, the 1-14/11-3/2 triad and the 1-13/11-3/2 triad. 29 tempers out 352/351, 676/675 and 4000/3993 from the 2.3.11/5.13/5 subgroup, and in addition 196/195 and 364/363 from the 2.3.7/5.11/5.13/5 subgroup, so we have various relationships from the tempering, such as the fact that the 1-13/11-3/2 chord and the 1-14/11-3/2 chord are inverses of each other, a major-minor pairing. A larger subgroup containing both of these subgroups is the [[k*N subgroups|3*29 subgroup]] 2.3.125.175.275.325; on this subgroup 29 tunes the same as 87, and the commas of 29 on this subgroup are the same as the 13-limit commas of 87. Still another subgroup of interest is the [[k*N subgroups|2*29 subgroup]] 2.3.25.35.55.65.85; on this subgroup 29 tunes the same as 58 and has the same 17-limit commas.

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29 is the lowest edo which approximates the <a class="wiki_link" href="/3_2">3:2</a> just fifth more accurately than <a class="wiki_link" href="/12edo">12edo</a>: 3/2 = 701.955... cents; 17 degrees of 29edo = 703.448... cents. Since the fifth is slightly sharp, 29edo is a <a class="wiki_link" href="/positive%20temperament">positive temperament</a> -- a Superpythagorean instead of a Meantone system. <br />

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The 3 is the only harmonic, of the intelligibly low ones anyway, that 29-edo approximates, and it does so quite well. Hence one possible use for 29edo is as an equally tempered pythagorean scale. However, it represents the 2.3.11/5.13/5 subgroup to very high accuracy, and 2.3.7/5.11/5.13/5 to a lesser but still good accuracy, and so can be used with this subgroup, which is liberally supplied with chords such as the 1-11/7-13/7 chord, the <a class="wiki_link" href="/The%20Archipelago">barbados triad</a> 1-13/10-3/2, the minor barbados triad 1-15/13-3/2, the 1-14/11-3/2 triad and the 1-13/11-3/2 triad. 29 tempers out 352/351, 676/675 and 4000/3993 from the 2.3.11/5.13/5 subgroup, and in addition 196/195 and 364/363 from the 2.3.7/5.11/5.13/5 subgroup, so we have various relationships from the tempering, such as the fact that the 1-13/11-3/2 chord and the 1-14/11-3/2 chord are inverses of each other, a major-minor pairing. A larger subgroup containing both of these subgroups is 2.3.125.175.275.325; on this subgroup 29 tunes the same as 87, and the commas of 29 on this subgroup are the same as the 13-limit commas of 87. Still another subgroup of interest is 2.3.25.35.55.65.85; on this subgroup 29 tunes the same as 58 and has the same 17-limit commas.<br />

The 3 is the only harmonic, of the intelligibly low ones anyway, that 29-edo approximates, and it does so quite well. Hence one possible use for 29edo is as an equally tempered pythagorean scale. However, it represents the 2.3.11/5.13/5 subgroup to very high accuracy, and 2.3.7/5.11/5.13/5 to a lesser but still good accuracy, and so can be used with this subgroup, which is liberally supplied with chords such as the 1-11/7-13/7 chord, the <a class="wiki_link" href="/The%20Archipelago">barbados triad</a> 1-13/10-3/2, the minor barbados triad 1-15/13-3/2, the 1-14/11-3/2 triad and the 1-13/11-3/2 triad. 29 tempers out 352/351, 676/675 and 4000/3993 from the 2.3.11/5.13/5 subgroup, and in addition 196/195 and 364/363 from the 2.3.7/5.11/5.13/5 subgroup, so we have various relationships from the tempering, such as the fact that the 1-13/11-3/2 chord and the 1-14/11-3/2 chord are inverses of each other, a major-minor pairing. A larger subgroup containing both of these subgroups is the <a class="wiki_link" href="/k%2AN%20subgroups">3*29 subgroup</a> 2.3.125.175.275.325; on this subgroup 29 tunes the same as 87, and the commas of 29 on this subgroup are the same as the 13-limit commas of 87. Still another subgroup of interest is the <a class="wiki_link" href="/k%2AN%20subgroups">2*29 subgroup</a> 2.3.25.35.55.65.85; on this subgroup 29 tunes the same as 58 and has the same 17-limit commas.<br />

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 is the lowest edo which approximates the [[3_2|3:2]] just fifth more accurately than [[12edo]]: 3/2 = 701.955... cents; 17 degrees of 29edo = 703.448... cents. Since the fifth is slightly sharp, 29edo is a [[positive temperament]] -- a Superpythagorean instead of a Meantone system.
-The 3 is the only harmonic, of the intelligibly low ones anyway, that 29-edo approximates, and it does so quite well. Hence one possible use for 29edo is as an equally tempered pythagorean scale. However, it represents the 2.3.11/5.13/5 subgroup to very high accuracy, and 2.3.7/5.11/5.13/5 to a lesser but still good accuracy, and so can be used with this subgroup, which is liberally supplied with chords such as the 1-11/7-13/7 chord, the [[The Archipelago|barbados triad]] 1-13/10-3/2, the minor barbados triad 1-15/13-3/2, the 1-14/11-3/2 triad and the 1-13/11-3/2 triad. 29 tempers out 352/351, 676/675 and 4000/3993 from the 2.3.11/5.13/5 subgroup, and in addition 196/195 and 364/363 from the 2.3.7/5.11/5.13/5 subgroup, so we have various relationships from the tempering, such as the fact that the 1-13/11-3/2 chord and the 1-14/11-3/2 chord are inverses of each other, a major-minor pairing. A larger subgroup containing both of these subgroups is 2.3.125.175.275.325; on this subgroup 29 tunes the same as 87, and the commas of 29 on this subgroup are the same as the 13-limit commas of 87. Still another subgroup of interest is 2.3.25.35.55.65.85; on this subgroup 29 tunes the same as 58 and has the same 17-limit commas.
+The 3 is the only harmonic, of the intelligibly low ones anyway, that 29-edo approximates, and it does so quite well. Hence one possible use for 29edo is as an equally tempered pythagorean scale. However, it represents the 2.3.11/5.13/5 subgroup to very high accuracy, and 2.3.7/5.11/5.13/5 to a lesser but still good accuracy, and so can be used with this subgroup, which is liberally supplied with chords such as the 1-11/7-13/7 chord, the [[The Archipelago|barbados triad]] 1-13/10-3/2, the minor barbados triad 1-15/13-3/2, the 1-14/11-3/2 triad and the 1-13/11-3/2 triad. 29 tempers out 352/351, 676/675 and 4000/3993 from the 2.3.11/5.13/5 subgroup, and in addition 196/195 and 364/363 from the 2.3.7/5.11/5.13/5 subgroup, so we have various relationships from the tempering, such as the fact that the 1-13/11-3/2 chord and the 1-14/11-3/2 chord are inverses of each other, a major-minor pairing. A larger subgroup containing both of these subgroups is the [[k*N subgroups|3*29 subgroup]] 2.3.125.175.275.325; on this subgroup 29 tunes the same as 87, and the commas of 29 on this subgroup are the same as the 13-limit commas of 87. Still another subgroup of interest is the [[k*N subgroups|2*29 subgroup]] 2.3.25.35.55.65.85; on this subgroup 29 tunes the same as 58 and has the same 17-limit commas.
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 is the lowest edo which approximates the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/3_2"&gt;3:2&lt;/a&gt; just fifth more accurately than &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/12edo"&gt;12edo&lt;/a&gt;: 3/2 = 701.955... cents; 17 degrees of 29edo = 703.448... cents. Since the fifth is slightly sharp, 29edo is a &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/positive%20temperament"&gt;positive temperament&lt;/a&gt; -- a Superpythagorean instead of a Meantone system. &lt;br /&gt;
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-The 3 is the only harmonic, of the intelligibly low ones anyway, that 29-edo approximates, and it does so quite well. Hence one possible use for 29edo is as an equally tempered pythagorean scale. However, it represents the 2.3.11/5.13/5 subgroup to very high accuracy, and 2.3.7/5.11/5.13/5 to a lesser but still good accuracy, and so can be used with this subgroup, which is liberally supplied with chords such as the 1-11/7-13/7 chord, the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/The%20Archipelago"&gt;barbados triad&lt;/a&gt; 1-13/10-3/2, the minor barbados triad 1-15/13-3/2, the 1-14/11-3/2 triad and the 1-13/11-3/2 triad. 29 tempers out 352/351, 676/675 and 4000/3993 from the 2.3.11/5.13/5 subgroup, and in addition 196/195 and 364/363 from the 2.3.7/5.11/5.13/5 subgroup, so we have various relationships from the tempering, such as the fact that the 1-13/11-3/2 chord and the 1-14/11-3/2 chord are inverses of each other, a major-minor pairing. A larger subgroup containing both of these subgroups is 2.3.125.175.275.325; on this subgroup 29 tunes the same as 87, and the commas of 29 on this subgroup are the same as the 13-limit commas of 87. Still another subgroup of interest is 2.3.25.35.55.65.85; on this subgroup 29 tunes the same as 58 and has the same 17-limit commas.&lt;br /&gt;
+The 3 is the only harmonic, of the intelligibly low ones anyway, that 29-edo approximates, and it does so quite well. Hence one possible use for 29edo is as an equally tempered pythagorean scale. However, it represents the 2.3.11/5.13/5 subgroup to very high accuracy, and 2.3.7/5.11/5.13/5 to a lesser but still good accuracy, and so can be used with this subgroup, which is liberally supplied with chords such as the 1-11/7-13/7 chord, the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/The%20Archipelago"&gt;barbados triad&lt;/a&gt; 1-13/10-3/2, the minor barbados triad 1-15/13-3/2, the 1-14/11-3/2 triad and the 1-13/11-3/2 triad. 29 tempers out 352/351, 676/675 and 4000/3993 from the 2.3.11/5.13/5 subgroup, and in addition 196/195 and 364/363 from the 2.3.7/5.11/5.13/5 subgroup, so we have various relationships from the tempering, such as the fact that the 1-13/11-3/2 chord and the 1-14/11-3/2 chord are inverses of each other, a major-minor pairing. A larger subgroup containing both of these subgroups is the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/k%2AN%20subgroups"&gt;3*29 subgroup&lt;/a&gt; 2.3.125.175.275.325; on this subgroup 29 tunes the same as 87, and the commas of 29 on this subgroup are the same as the 13-limit commas of 87. Still another subgroup of interest is the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/k%2AN%20subgroups"&gt;2*29 subgroup&lt;/a&gt; 2.3.25.35.55.65.85; on this subgroup 29 tunes the same as 58 and has the same 17-limit commas.&lt;br /&gt;
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