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The primary triad for Orgone Temperament is 8:11:14 and its subharmonic inversion, which these scales have in abundance. 2g approximates [[16_11|16:11]] and 3g approximates [[7_4|7:4]] (and I would call that the definition of Orgone Temperament). That also implies that g approximates the difference between 7:4 and 16:11, which is 77:64, about 320.1 cents.
The primary triad for Orgone Temperament is 8:11:14 and its subharmonic inversion, which these scales have in abundance. 2g approximates [[16_11|16:11]] and 3g approximates [[7_4|7:4]] (and I would call that the definition of Orgone Temperament). That also implies that g approximates the difference between 7:4 and 16:11, which is 77:64, about 320.1 cents.


[[37edo]] is another excellent Orgone tuning. [[11edo]] is passable, but barely. If we take 11 and 26 to be the edges of the Orgone Spectrum, that suggests some other edos which can play Orgone: 11, 48, 37, 63, 26.
[[37edo]] is another excellent Orgone tuning. [[11edo]] is passable, but barely. If we take 11 and 26 to be the edges of the Orgone Spectrum, we may fill in the rest of the spectrum thus:
 
|| 3\11 ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
||  ||  ||  ||  || 19\70 ||
||  ||  ||  || 16\59 ||  ||
||  ||  ||  ||  || 29\107 ||
||  ||  || 13\48 ||  ||  ||
||  ||  ||  ||  || 36\133 ||
||  ||  ||  || 23\85 ||  ||
||  ||  ||  ||  || 33\122 ||
||  || 10\37 ||  ||  ||  ||
||  ||  ||  ||  || 37\137 ||
||  ||  ||  || 27\100 ||  ||
||  ||  ||  ||  || 44\163 ||
||  ||  || 17\63 ||  ||  ||
||  ||  ||  ||  || 41\152 ||
||  ||  ||  || 24\89 ||  ||
||  ||  ||  ||  || 31\115 ||
|| 7\26 ||  ||  ||  ||  ||
 


Orgone tempers out 65539/65219 = |16 0 0 -2 -3&gt;, and has a minimax tuning which sharpens both 7 and 11 by 1/5 of this comma, or 1.679 cents. This makes the generator g a 77/64 sharp by 2/5 of the orgone comma. From this we may conclude that 24/89 or 31/115 would be reasonable alternatives to the 7/26 generator.
Orgone tempers out 65539/65219 = |16 0 0 -2 -3&gt;, and has a minimax tuning which sharpens both 7 and 11 by 1/5 of this comma, or 1.679 cents. This makes the generator g a 77/64 sharp by 2/5 of the orgone comma. From this we may conclude that 24/89 or 31/115 would be reasonable alternatives to the 7/26 generator.
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The primary triad for Orgone Temperament is 8:11:14 and its subharmonic inversion, which these scales have in abundance. 2g approximates &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/16_11"&gt;16:11&lt;/a&gt; and 3g approximates &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/7_4"&gt;7:4&lt;/a&gt; (and I would call that the definition of Orgone Temperament). That also implies that g approximates the difference between 7:4 and 16:11, which is 77:64, about 320.1 cents.&lt;br /&gt;
The primary triad for Orgone Temperament is 8:11:14 and its subharmonic inversion, which these scales have in abundance. 2g approximates &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/16_11"&gt;16:11&lt;/a&gt; and 3g approximates &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/7_4"&gt;7:4&lt;/a&gt; (and I would call that the definition of Orgone Temperament). That also implies that g approximates the difference between 7:4 and 16:11, which is 77:64, about 320.1 cents.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/37edo"&gt;37edo&lt;/a&gt; is another excellent Orgone tuning. &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/11edo"&gt;11edo&lt;/a&gt; is passable, but barely. If we take 11 and 26 to be the edges of the Orgone Spectrum, that suggests some other edos which can play Orgone: 11, 48, 37, 63, 26.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/37edo"&gt;37edo&lt;/a&gt; is another excellent Orgone tuning. &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/11edo"&gt;11edo&lt;/a&gt; is passable, but barely. If we take 11 and 26 to be the edges of the Orgone Spectrum, we may fill in the rest of the spectrum thus:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
 
 
&lt;table class="wiki_table"&gt;
    &lt;tr&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;3\11&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;/tr&gt;
    &lt;tr&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;19\70&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;/tr&gt;
    &lt;tr&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;16\59&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;/tr&gt;
    &lt;tr&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;29\107&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;/tr&gt;
    &lt;tr&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;13\48&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;/tr&gt;
    &lt;tr&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;36\133&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;/tr&gt;
    &lt;tr&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;23\85&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;/tr&gt;
    &lt;tr&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;33\122&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;/tr&gt;
    &lt;tr&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;10\37&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;/tr&gt;
    &lt;tr&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;37\137&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;/tr&gt;
    &lt;tr&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;27\100&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;/tr&gt;
    &lt;tr&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;44\163&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;/tr&gt;
    &lt;tr&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;17\63&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;/tr&gt;
    &lt;tr&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;41\152&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;/tr&gt;
    &lt;tr&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;24\89&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;/tr&gt;
    &lt;tr&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;31\115&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;/tr&gt;
    &lt;tr&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;7\26&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;/table&gt;
 
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Orgone tempers out 65539/65219 = |16 0 0 -2 -3&amp;gt;, and has a minimax tuning which sharpens both 7 and 11 by 1/5 of this comma, or 1.679 cents. This makes the generator g a 77/64 sharp by 2/5 of the orgone comma. From this we may conclude that 24/89 or 31/115 would be reasonable alternatives to the 7/26 generator.&lt;br /&gt;
Orgone tempers out 65539/65219 = |16 0 0 -2 -3&amp;gt;, and has a minimax tuning which sharpens both 7 and 11 by 1/5 of this comma, or 1.679 cents. This makes the generator g a 77/64 sharp by 2/5 of the orgone comma. From this we may conclude that 24/89 or 31/115 would be reasonable alternatives to the 7/26 generator.&lt;br /&gt;
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If a name already exists for this temperament, I'd be interested to know about it. As far as I know, temperaments which ignore lower primes (in this case 3 and 5) in favor of higher ones (in this case 7 and 11) are still largely uncharted, but I am interested in finding out if someone has walked this path before.&lt;br /&gt;
If a name already exists for this temperament, I'd be interested to know about it. As far as I know, temperaments which ignore lower primes (in this case 3 and 5) in favor of higher ones (in this case 7 and 11) are still largely uncharted, but I am interested in finding out if someone has walked this path before.&lt;br /&gt;
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