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Hey Ray, you mentioned that Locrian seems to sound best in 12edo. May I ask which kinds of JI intervals you were approximating when trying to tune Locrian in other EDOs? I think that may have an impact on good Locrian sounds in different EDOs. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 20:42, 12 December 2020 (UTC)

:My Locrian fugue is done now: https://en.xen.wiki/w/File:Locrian_Fugue.mp3 . I also uploaded a 31 edo version, so you can confirm for yourself it sounds worse: https://en.xen.wiki/w/File:Locrian_Fugue_31_edo.mp3 . As I said on the description page for the 12 EDO version, I think the reason I like 12 EDO for this particular piece (not necessarily claiming this applies to everything in Locrian) is that the subject can be heard as an elaboration of a 5:6:7:8 tetrad in 12 EDO, but not so much other tunings. That said, I was not thinking of just ratios when composing this. Just the usual counterpoint rules: 3rd and 6ths are imperfect consonances and can be used freely in harmony, perfect 5ths and octaves are perfect consonances (i.e. parallels are to be avoided.) Perfect 4ths with the bass and 7ths with the root of a chord are dissonances that like to resolve by having the upper voice fall to a 3rd. Augmented intervals like to expand, diminished intervals like to contract, Avoid dissonant leaps in melodic motion. Handle dissonances as suspensions, passing tones, neighbor tones etc. --[[User:Rperlner|Rperlner]] ([[User talk:Rperlner|talk]]) 01:45, 13 December 2020 (UTC)

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	Hey Ray, you mentioned that Locrian seems to sound best in 12edo. May I ask which kinds of JI intervals you were approximating when trying to tune Locrian in other EDOs? I think that may have an impact on good Locrian sounds in different EDOs. --[[User:Aura\|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura\|talk]]) 20:42, 12 December 2020 (UTC)		Hey Ray, you mentioned that Locrian seems to sound best in 12edo. May I ask which kinds of JI intervals you were approximating when trying to tune Locrian in other EDOs? I think that may have an impact on good Locrian sounds in different EDOs. --[[User:Aura\|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura\|talk]]) 20:42, 12 December 2020 (UTC)

			:My Locrian fugue is done now: https://en.xen.wiki/w/File:Locrian_Fugue.mp3 . I also uploaded a 31 edo version, so you can confirm for yourself it sounds worse: https://en.xen.wiki/w/File:Locrian_Fugue_31_edo.mp3 . As I said on the description page for the 12 EDO version, I think the reason I like 12 EDO for this particular piece (not necessarily claiming this applies to everything in Locrian) is that the subject can be heard as an elaboration of a 5:6:7:8 tetrad in 12 EDO, but not so much other tunings. That said, I was not thinking of just ratios when composing this. Just the usual counterpoint rules: 3rd and 6ths are imperfect consonances and can be used freely in harmony, perfect 5ths and octaves are perfect consonances (i.e. parallels are to be avoided.) Perfect 4ths with the bass and 7ths with the root of a chord are dissonances that like to resolve by having the upper voice fall to a 3rd. Augmented intervals like to expand, diminished intervals like to contract, Avoid dissonant leaps in melodic motion. Handle dissonances as suspensions, passing tones, neighbor tones etc. --[[User:Rperlner\|Rperlner]] ([[User talk:Rperlner\|talk]]) 01:45, 13 December 2020 (UTC)