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|| Degree || Cents (coarse, fine)
|| Degree || Cents (coarse, fine)
DMS ||= Approximate
DMS ||= Approximate
Ratios* || Interval Name ||
Ratios* || Interval Names
|| 0 || 0 ||= 1/1 || Unison ||
Just || Interval Names
Simplified ||
|| 0 || 0 ||= 1/1 || Unison || Unison ||
|| 1 || 75, 90
|| 1 || 75, 90
22º30' ||= 28/27, 27/26 || Subminor 2nd ||
22º30' ||= 28/27, 27/26 || Subminor 2nd || Minor Second ||
|| 2 || 150, 180
|| 2 || 150, 180
45° ||= 12/11, 35/32 || Neutral 2nd ||
45° ||= 12/11, 35/32 || Neutral 2nd || Major Second ||
|| 3 || 225, 270
|| 3 || 225, 270
67°30' ||= 8/7 || Supermajor 2nd,
67°30' ||= 8/7 || Supermajor 2nd,
Septimal Whole-Tone ||
Septimal Whole-Tone || Perfect Second ||
|| 4 || 300, 360
|| 4 || 300, 360
90° ||= 19/16, 32/27 || Minor 3rd ||
90° ||= 19/16, 32/27 || Minor 3rd || Minor Third ||
|| 5 || 375, 450
|| 5 || 375, 450
112°30' ||= 5/4, 26/21 || Major 3rd ||
112°30' ||= 5/4, 26/21 || Major 3rd || Major Third ||
|| 6 || 450, 540
|| 6 || 450, 540
135° ||= 13/10, 35/27 || Sub-4th,
135° ||= 13/10, 35/27 || Sub-4th,
Supermajor 3rd ||
Supermajor 3rd || Minor Fourth ||
|| 7 || 525, 630
|| 7 || 525, 630
157°30' ||= 27/20, 52/35, 256/189 || Wide 4th ||
157°30' ||= 27/20, 52/35, 256/189 || Wide 4th || Major Fourth ||
|| 8 || 600, 720
|| 8 || 600, 720
180° ||= 7/5, 10/7 || Tritone ||
180° ||= 7/5, 10/7 || Tritone || Augmented fourth/
Diminished fifth ||
|| 9 || 675, 810
|| 9 || 675, 810
202°30' ||= 40/27, 35/26, 189/128 || Narrow 5th ||
202°30' ||= 40/27, 35/26, 189/128 || Narrow 5th || Minor Fifth ||
|| 10 || 750, 900
|| 10 || 750, 900
225° ||= 20/13, 54/35 || Super-5th,
225° ||= 20/13, 54/35 || Super-5th,
Subminor 6th ||
Subminor 6th || Major Fifth ||
|| 11 || 825, 990
|| 11 || 825, 990
247°30' ||= 8/5, 21/13 || Minor 6th ||
247°30' ||= 8/5, 21/13 || Minor 6th || Minor Sixth ||
|| 12 || 900, 1080
|| 12 || 900, 1080
270° ||= 27/16, 32/19 || Major 6th ||
270° ||= 27/16, 32/19 || Major 6th || Major Sixth ||
|| 13 || 975, 1170
|| 13 || 975, 1170
292°30' ||= 7/4 || Subminor 7th,
292°30' ||= 7/4 || Subminor 7th,
Septimal Minor 7th ||
Septimal Minor 7th || Perfect Seventh ||
|| 14 || 1050, 1260
|| 14 || 1050, 1260
315° ||= 11/6, 64/35 || Neutral 7th ||
315° ||= 11/6, 64/35 || Neutral 7th || Minor Seventh ||
|| 15 || 1125, 1350
|| 15 || 1125, 1350
337°30' ||= 27/14, 52/27 || Supermajor 7th ||
337°30' ||= 27/14, 52/27 || Supermajor 7th || Major Seventh ||
|| 16 || 1200, 1440
|| 16 || 1200, 1440
360° ||= 2/1 || Octave ||
360° ||= 2/1 || Octave || Octave ||
*based on treating 16-EDO as a 2.5.7.13.19.27 subgroup temperament; other approaches are possible.
*based on treating 16-EDO as a 2.5.7.13.19.27 subgroup temperament; other approaches are possible.


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==16 Tone Piano Layout Based on the Anti-diatonic Scale==  
==16 Tone Piano Layout Based on the Anti-diatonic Scale==  
[[image:16-EDO-PIano-Diagram.png width="748" height="293"]]
[[image:16-EDO-PIano-Diagram.png width="748" height="293"]]
This Layout places Mavila[7] on the white keys and Mavila[9] on the white keys. As you can see, flats are higher than naturals and sharps are lower.  
This Layout places Mavila[7] on the white keys and Mavila[9] on the white keys. As you can see, flats are higher than naturals and sharps are lower.


=Rank two temperaments=  
=Rank two temperaments=  
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Ratios*&lt;br /&gt;
Ratios*&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;/td&gt;
         &lt;td&gt;Interval Name&lt;br /&gt;
         &lt;td&gt;Interval Names&lt;br /&gt;
Just&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;Interval Names&lt;br /&gt;
Simplified&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
         &lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;1/1&lt;br /&gt;
         &lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;1/1&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;Unison&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
         &lt;td&gt;Unison&lt;br /&gt;
         &lt;td&gt;Unison&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
         &lt;td&gt;Subminor 2nd&lt;br /&gt;
         &lt;td&gt;Subminor 2nd&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;Minor Second&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
         &lt;td&gt;Neutral 2nd&lt;br /&gt;
         &lt;td&gt;Neutral 2nd&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;Major Second&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
     &lt;/tr&gt;
     &lt;/tr&gt;
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         &lt;td&gt;Supermajor 2nd,&lt;br /&gt;
         &lt;td&gt;Supermajor 2nd,&lt;br /&gt;
Septimal Whole-Tone&lt;br /&gt;
Septimal Whole-Tone&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;Perfect Second&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
         &lt;td&gt;Minor 3rd&lt;br /&gt;
         &lt;td&gt;Minor 3rd&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;Minor Third&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
         &lt;td&gt;Major 3rd&lt;br /&gt;
         &lt;td&gt;Major 3rd&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;Major Third&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
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         &lt;td&gt;Sub-4th,&lt;br /&gt;
         &lt;td&gt;Sub-4th,&lt;br /&gt;
Supermajor 3rd&lt;br /&gt;
Supermajor 3rd&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;Minor Fourth&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
         &lt;td&gt;Wide 4th&lt;br /&gt;
         &lt;td&gt;Wide 4th&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;Major Fourth&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
         &lt;td&gt;Tritone&lt;br /&gt;
         &lt;td&gt;Tritone&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;Augmented fourth/&lt;br /&gt;
Diminished fifth&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
         &lt;td&gt;Narrow 5th&lt;br /&gt;
         &lt;td&gt;Narrow 5th&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;Minor Fifth&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
     &lt;/tr&gt;
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         &lt;td&gt;Super-5th,&lt;br /&gt;
         &lt;td&gt;Super-5th,&lt;br /&gt;
Subminor 6th&lt;br /&gt;
Subminor 6th&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;Major Fifth&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
         &lt;td&gt;Minor 6th&lt;br /&gt;
         &lt;td&gt;Minor 6th&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;Minor Sixth&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;/td&gt;
         &lt;td&gt;Major 6th&lt;br /&gt;
         &lt;td&gt;Major 6th&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;Major Sixth&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
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         &lt;td&gt;Subminor 7th,&lt;br /&gt;
         &lt;td&gt;Subminor 7th,&lt;br /&gt;
Septimal Minor 7th&lt;br /&gt;
Septimal Minor 7th&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;Perfect Seventh&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
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         &lt;td&gt;Neutral 7th&lt;br /&gt;
         &lt;td&gt;Neutral 7th&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;Minor Seventh&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
         &lt;td&gt;Supermajor 7th&lt;br /&gt;
         &lt;td&gt;Supermajor 7th&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;Major Seventh&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;/td&gt;
         &lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;2/1&lt;br /&gt;
         &lt;td style="text-align: center;"&gt;2/1&lt;br /&gt;
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        &lt;td&gt;Octave&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
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         &lt;td&gt;Octave&lt;br /&gt;
         &lt;td&gt;Octave&lt;br /&gt;
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Another interesting approach can include two interwoven &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/8edo"&gt;8-EDO&lt;/a&gt; scales (narrow 12/11 neutral seconds). There are two major seventh intervals, a harmonic seventh at step 13\16, a 7/4 ratio approximation, sharp by 6.174 cents, followed by an undecimal 11/6 ratio or neutral seventh (which is mapped in 16's &lt;strong&gt;Mavila&lt;/strong&gt; as a major seventh). If we take the 300-cent minor third as an approximation of the harmonic 19th (&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/19_16"&gt;19/16&lt;/a&gt;, approximately 297.5 cents), that adds another overtone which can combine with the approximation of the harmonic seventh to form a 16:19:28 triad (pictured below).&lt;br /&gt;
Another interesting approach can include two interwoven &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/8edo"&gt;8-EDO&lt;/a&gt; scales (narrow 12/11 neutral seconds). There are two major seventh intervals, a harmonic seventh at step 13\16, a 7/4 ratio approximation, sharp by 6.174 cents, followed by an undecimal 11/6 ratio or neutral seventh (which is mapped in 16's &lt;strong&gt;Mavila&lt;/strong&gt; as a major seventh). If we take the 300-cent minor third as an approximation of the harmonic 19th (&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/19_16"&gt;19/16&lt;/a&gt;, approximately 297.5 cents), that adds another overtone which can combine with the approximation of the harmonic seventh to form a 16:19:28 triad (pictured below).&lt;br /&gt;
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The interval between the 28th &amp;amp; 19th overtones, 28:19, measures approximately 671.3 cents, which is 3.7 cents away from 16edo's &amp;quot;narrow fifth&amp;quot;. Another voicing for this chord is 14:16:19, which features 19:14 as the outer interval (528.7 cents just, 525.0 cents in 16edo). A perhaps more consonant open voicing is 7:16:19.&lt;br /&gt;
The interval between the 28th &amp;amp; 19th overtones, 28:19, measures approximately 671.3 cents, which is 3.7 cents away from 16edo's &amp;quot;narrow fifth&amp;quot;. Another voicing for this chord is 14:16:19, which features 19:14 as the outer interval (528.7 cents just, 525.0 cents in 16edo). A perhaps more consonant open voicing is 7:16:19.&lt;br /&gt;
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16-EDO notation can be easy utilizing Goldsmith's Circle of keys, nominals, and respective notation. The nominals for a 6 line staff can be switched for Wilson's Beta and Epsilon additions to A-G. Armodue of Italy uses a 4-line staff for 16-EDO.&lt;br /&gt;
16-EDO notation can be easy utilizing Goldsmith's Circle of keys, nominals, and respective notation. The nominals for a 6 line staff can be switched for Wilson's Beta and Epsilon additions to A-G. Armodue of Italy uses a 4-line staff for 16-EDO.&lt;br /&gt;
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In 16-EDO diatonic scales are dissonant and &amp;quot;shimmery&amp;quot; because of the 25 cent raised superfourth in conjunction with the 25 cent subtracted fifth / poor 3/2 approximation. Scales like the Harmonic Minor scale in 16-EDO require 4 step sizes.&lt;br /&gt;
In 16-EDO diatonic scales are dissonant and &amp;quot;shimmery&amp;quot; because of the 25 cent raised superfourth in conjunction with the 25 cent subtracted fifth / poor 3/2 approximation. Scales like the Harmonic Minor scale in 16-EDO require 4 step sizes.&lt;br /&gt;
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This Layout places Mavila[7] on the white keys and Mavila[9] on the white keys. As you can see, flats are higher than naturals and sharps are lower. &lt;br /&gt;
This Layout places Mavila[7] on the white keys and Mavila[9] on the white keys. As you can see, flats are higher than naturals and sharps are lower.&lt;br /&gt;
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