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::::::::::::: It's a start, but this would only be fitting when you're changing Tonics, after all, B Dorian and B Locrian use the same Tonic, which is B-Natural.  Since this is the case, we could have each octave of each keyboard have access to pitches relating to the Tonic by the following intervals: 1/1, 33/32, 256/243, 16/15, 35/32, 9/8, 8/7, 64/55, 32/27, 77/64, 39/32, 16/13, 5/4, 81/64, 128/99, 4/3, 11/8, 45/32, 64/45, 16/11, 3/2, 99/64, 128/81, 8/5, 13/8, 64/39, 128/77, 27/16, 55/32, 7/4, 16/9, 64/35, 15/8, 243/128, 64/33, and finally, 2/1.  This is perhaps the best pitch selection I can think of for the kinds of things I would try. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 22:53, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
::::::::::::: It's a start, but this would only be fitting when you're changing Tonics, after all, B Dorian and B Locrian use the same Tonic, which is B-Natural.  Since this is the case, we could have each octave of each keyboard have access to pitches relating to the Tonic by the following intervals: 1/1, 33/32, 256/243, 16/15, 35/32, 9/8, 8/7, 64/55, 32/27, 77/64, 39/32, 16/13, 5/4, 81/64, 128/99, 4/3, 11/8, 45/32, 64/45, 16/11, 3/2, 99/64, 128/81, 8/5, 13/8, 64/39, 128/77, 27/16, 55/32, 7/4, 16/9, 64/35, 15/8, 243/128, 64/33, and finally, 2/1.  This is perhaps the best pitch selection I can think of for the kinds of things I would try. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 22:53, 25 November 2020 (UTC)


== Javascript ==
== Unnoticeable Commas ==
 
Hey SA, in all your work on Just intonation, have you ever thought about the small little commas that people virtually can't hear?  Since I've been on this wiki, I've been involved in naming three such commas: the [[nexuma|nexus comma]], the [[quartisma]], and the [[19712/19683|symbiotic comma]].  I have to admit these unnoticeable commas are my favorite commas to mess with just because I like to temper these things out. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 04:40, 27 November 2020 (UTC)


Per-user [https://en.xen.wiki/index.php?title=User%3ASAKryukov&type=revision&diff=53202&oldid=53201 scripts] should be enabled in the wiki, but these are not restricted to pages but take effect on every page. Please read the details in [[mw: Manual:Interface/JavaScript #Personal scripts]]. (I'm not totally sure about it right now because we had a wiki upgrade from 1.31 to 1.35 in the last days.) --[[User:Xenwolf|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf|talk]]) 08:53, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
: Sorry, not yet. Again, I did not even hear any sounds from my work on "just intonation" (I don't call it "just intonation" to avoid confusion with well-known meaning of this expression, I call it rational or "harmonic" intervals/systems), only developed some calculation. That said, I know about these commas and understand their nature, but not ready to discuss further detail. I'll keep it in mind, though. All my prior work was either with (practically) continuous frequency set or different EDOs. And finally, I started to work with a new instrument. — [[User:SAKryukov|SA]] 04:51, 27 November 2020 (UTC)


Thank you! It was just my test.
:: Well, part of the reason I brought it up is because I'm trying to develop a nomenclature for intervals in the 2.3.11 subgroup.  I wonder if at a certain point you could help me with that... --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 04:55, 27 November 2020 (UTC)


: That's what I thought 🙂. As I found out, user scripts are enabled. See [[User:Xenwolf/vector.js]] for a small example. I'm not sure if <code>let</code> is supported now (there was/is an issue) but <code>const</code> definitively is. <br> --[[User:Xenwolf|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf|talk]]) 09:34, 25 November 2020 (UTC) <br> <small>PS: signing - even on ''your'' user talk - would make things easier. And if you don't like the double hyphen, you may use <code>&amp;mdash;</code> or <code>—</code> as well, the magic starts only in the tildes. It's also possible to heavily customize you signature. <br> See [[mw: Help:Signatures #Customized signatures]] for a detailed description. <br> --[[User:Xenwolf|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf|talk]]) 09:34, 25 November 2020 (UTC)</small>
::: It may eventually happen, I'm not sure right now. I'm busy with other things. &mdash;&nbsp;[[User:SAKryukov|SA]] 04:59, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
::: I wanted to ask you: can I understand that by "tempering out" you don't mean EDO temperation? In other words, do you plan to stay within a set of rational numbers? &mdash;&nbsp;[[User:SAKryukov|SA]] 04:59, 27 November 2020 (UTC)


:: Thank you again! I've figured out and done it all. [[User talk:Xenwolf|On your talk page]], I created two questions under "Quick Question", and now one left, rather a very annoying CSS bug. Anything? [[User:SAKryukov|SA]], 01:43, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
== Wiki ==


== Signing and timestamps ==
=== Signing and timestamps ===


Hello SAKryukov, <br>
Hello SAKryukov, <br>
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:::: Got it, thank you &mdash;&nbsp;[[User:SAKryukov|SA]] 15:27, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
:::: Got it, thank you &mdash;&nbsp;[[User:SAKryukov|SA]] 15:27, 26 November 2020 (UTC)


== Unnoticeable Commas ==
=== Javascript ===


Hey SA, in all your work on Just intonation, have you ever thought about the small little commas that people virtually can't hear?  Since I've been on this wiki, I've been involved in naming three such commas: the [[nexuma|nexus comma]], the [[quartisma]], and the [[19712/19683|symbiotic comma]]. I have to admit these unnoticeable commas are my favorite commas to mess with just because I like to temper these things out. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 04:40, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
Per-user [https://en.xen.wiki/index.php?title=User%3ASAKryukov&type=revision&diff=53202&oldid=53201 scripts] should be enabled in the wiki, but these are not restricted to pages but take effect on every page. Please read the details in [[mw: Manual:Interface/JavaScript #Personal scripts]]. (I'm not totally sure about it right now because we had a wiki upgrade from 1.31 to 1.35 in the last days.) --[[User:Xenwolf|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf|talk]]) 08:53, 25 November 2020 (UTC)


: Sorry, not yet. Again, I did not even hear any sounds from my work on "just intonation" (I don't call it "just intonation" to avoid confusion with well-known meaning of this expression, I call it rational or "harmonic" intervals/systems), only developed some calculation. That said, I know about these commas and understand their nature, but not ready to discuss further detail. I'll keep it in mind, though. All my prior work was either with (practically) continuous frequency set or different EDOs. And finally, I started to work with a new instrument. &mdash;&nbsp;[[User:SAKryukov|SA]] 04:51, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
Thank you! It was just my test.


:: Well, part of the reason I brought it up is because I'm trying to develop a nomenclature for intervals in the 2.3.11 subgroup.  I wonder if at a certain point you could help me with that... --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 04:55, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
: That's what I thought 🙂. As I found out, user scripts are enabled. See [[User:Xenwolf/vector.js]] for a small example. I'm not sure if <code>let</code> is supported now (there was/is an issue) but <code>const</code> definitively is. <br> --[[User:Xenwolf|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf|talk]]) 09:34, 25 November 2020 (UTC) <br> <small>PS: signing - even on ''your'' user talk - would make things easier. And if you don't like the double hyphen, you may use <code>&amp;mdash;</code> or <code>—</code> as well, the magic starts only in the tildes. It's also possible to heavily customize you signature. <br> See [[mw: Help:Signatures #Customized signatures]] for a detailed description. <br> --[[User:Xenwolf|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf|talk]]) 09:34, 25 November 2020 (UTC)</small>


::: It may eventually happen, I'm not sure right now. I'm busy with other things. &mdash;&nbsp;[[User:SAKryukov|SA]] 04:59, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
:: Thank you again! I've figured out and done it all. [[User talk:Xenwolf|On your talk page]], I created two questions under "Quick Question", and now one left, rather a very annoying CSS bug. Anything? [[User:SAKryukov|SA]], 01:43, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
::: I wanted to ask you: can I understand that by "tempering out" you don't mean EDO temperation? In other words, do you plan to stay within a set of rational numbers? &mdash;&nbsp;[[User:SAKryukov|SA]] 04:59, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
 
== Wiki ==