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=13 tone equal temperament / 13edo= | =13 tone equal temperament / 13edo= | ||
13edo refers to a tuning system which divides the octave (frequency ratio 2:1) into 13 equal parts. The steps are of similar size to those of 12edo (albeit squashed), while the intervals between a minor third & major sixth are xenharmonic (not similar to anything available in 12edo). | 13edo refers to a tuning system which divides the octave (frequency ratio 2:1) into 13 equal parts. The steps are of similar size to those of 12edo (albeit squashed), while the intervals between a minor third & major sixth are xenharmonic (not similar to anything available in 12edo). | ||
|| Degree || Cents ||= Approximate Ratios* || Note Name | || Degree || Cents ||= Approximate Ratios* || Note Name || | ||
|| 0 || 0 ||= 1/1 || C || | || 0 || 0 ||= 1/1 || C || | ||
|| 1 || 92.3077 ||= 55/52, 117/110, 26/25 || C#/Db || | || 1 || 92.3077 ||= 55/52, 117/110, 26/25 || C#/Db || | ||
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|| 13 || 1200 ||= 2/1 || C/B# || | || 13 || 1200 ||= 2/1 || C/B# || | ||
*based on treating 13-EDO as a 2.5.9.11.13 temperament; other approaches are possible. | *based on treating 13-EDO as a 2.5.9.11.13 temperament; other approaches are possible. | ||
based on the 6L1s heptatonic scale; see below. | |||
=Harmony in 13edo= | |||
Contrary to popular belief, consonant harmony is possible in 13-EDO, but it requires a radically different approach than that used in 12-EDO (or other Pythagorean or Meantone-based tunings). Trying to approximate the usual major and minor triads of 12-EDO within 13-EDO is usually a disappointment if consonance is the goal; 0-3-7, 0-4-7, 0-3-8, and 0-4-8 are all rather rough in 13-EDO. Typically, the most consonant harmonies do not use a "stack of 3rds" the way they do in 12-TET, since the strongest dissonances in 13-EDO are near the middle of the octave (degrees 6, 7, and 8). Instead, a stack of whole-tones, or a mixture of whole-tones and minor 3rds, often yields good results. For example, one way to view 13-EDO is as a subgroup temperament of harmonics 2.5.9.11.13. It actually performs quite admirably in this regard, and a chord of 0-4-15-19-22 (approximating 4:5:9:11:13) sounds very convincing. An even larger subgroup is the [[k*N subgroups|2*13 subgroup]] 2.9.5.21.11.13, on which 13 has the same tuning and commas as 26et. | Contrary to popular belief, consonant harmony is possible in 13-EDO, but it requires a radically different approach than that used in 12-EDO (or other Pythagorean or Meantone-based tunings). Trying to approximate the usual major and minor triads of 12-EDO within 13-EDO is usually a disappointment if consonance is the goal; 0-3-7, 0-4-7, 0-3-8, and 0-4-8 are all rather rough in 13-EDO. Typically, the most consonant harmonies do not use a "stack of 3rds" the way they do in 12-TET, since the strongest dissonances in 13-EDO are near the middle of the octave (degrees 6, 7, and 8). Instead, a stack of whole-tones, or a mixture of whole-tones and minor 3rds, often yields good results. For example, one way to view 13-EDO is as a subgroup temperament of harmonics 2.5.9.11.13. It actually performs quite admirably in this regard, and a chord of 0-4-15-19-22 (approximating 4:5:9:11:13) sounds very convincing. An even larger subgroup is the [[k*N subgroups|2*13 subgroup]] 2.9.5.21.11.13, on which 13 has the same tuning and commas as 26et. | ||
The 2.9.5.11.13 subgroup has commas 45/44, 65/64 and 81/80, leading to a linear temperament with POTE generator 185.728 cents, quite close to 2\13. Use this as a generator, and at 7 notes (6L1s) two full pentads are available (as well as two more 4:5:9:11 tetrad, and one 4:5:9:13 tetrad). | The 2.9.5.11.13 subgroup has commas 45/44, 65/64 and 81/80, leading to a linear temperament with POTE generator 185.728 cents, quite close to 2\13. Use this as a generator, and at 7 notes (6L1s) two full pentads are available (as well as two more 4:5:9:11 tetrad, and one 4:5:9:13 tetrad). | ||
=Scales in 13edo= | |||
Due to the prime character of the number 13, 13edo can form several xenharmonic [[MOSScales|moment of symmetry scales]]. The diagram below shows five "families" of MOS scales: those generated by making a chain of 2\13 (two degrees of 13edo), 3\13, 4\13, 5\13, & 6\13, respectively. | Due to the prime character of the number 13, 13edo can form several xenharmonic [[MOSScales|moment of symmetry scales]]. The diagram below shows five "families" of MOS scales: those generated by making a chain of 2\13 (two degrees of 13edo), 3\13, 4\13, 5\13, & 6\13, respectively. | ||
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Another neat facet of 13-EDO is the fact that any 12-EDO scale can be "turned into" a 13-EDO scale by either adding an extra semitone, or turning an existent semitone into a whole-tone. Because of this, melody in 13-EDO can be quite mind-bending and uncanny, and phrases that begin in a familiar way quickly lead to something totally unexpected. | Another neat facet of 13-EDO is the fact that any 12-EDO scale can be "turned into" a 13-EDO scale by either adding an extra semitone, or turning an existent semitone into a whole-tone. Because of this, melody in 13-EDO can be quite mind-bending and uncanny, and phrases that begin in a familiar way quickly lead to something totally unexpected. | ||
=**Compositions**= | |||
[[http://www.microtonalmusic.net/audio/slowdance13edo.mp3|Slow Dance]] by [[http://danielthompson.blogspot.com/|Daniel Thompson]] | [[http://www.microtonalmusic.net/audio/slowdance13edo.mp3|Slow Dance]] by [[http://danielthompson.blogspot.com/|Daniel Thompson]] | ||
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[[@http://www.last.fm/music/City+of+the+Asleep/Map+of+an+Internal+Landscape/Blinding+White+Darkness|Blinding White Darkness]] by [[IgliashonJones|City of the Asleep]] | [[@http://www.last.fm/music/City+of+the+Asleep/Map+of+an+Internal+Landscape/Blinding+White+Darkness|Blinding White Darkness]] by [[IgliashonJones|City of the Asleep]] | ||
=Igliashon's 13-EDO diatonic approaches= | |||
From a temperament perspective, we can probably make the best use of 13-EDO as a 2.5.9.11.13 subgroup, but assuming our goal is to make reasonably-tonal, triad-based music, we might prefer to think in terms of subsets of this subgroup. The most accurately-tuned subsets are 2.5.9, 2.5.11, 2.5.13, and 2.11.13, and for each of these, there is a corresponding MOS generator that is maximally-efficient at producing the desired triad. For 2.5.13, the simplest generator is 4\13, with an octave-equivalent mapping <1 -1| (for 5 and 13), corresponding to the 3rd horogram above. For 2.11.13, the simplest generator is 3\13, with an octave-equivalent mapping <2 3| (for 11 and 13). This corresponds to the 2nd horogram above. | From a temperament perspective, we can probably make the best use of 13-EDO as a 2.5.9.11.13 subgroup, but assuming our goal is to make reasonably-tonal, triad-based music, we might prefer to think in terms of subsets of this subgroup. The most accurately-tuned subsets are 2.5.9, 2.5.11, 2.5.13, and 2.11.13, and for each of these, there is a corresponding MOS generator that is maximally-efficient at producing the desired triad. For 2.5.13, the simplest generator is 4\13, with an octave-equivalent mapping <1 -1| (for 5 and 13), corresponding to the 3rd horogram above. For 2.11.13, the simplest generator is 3\13, with an octave-equivalent mapping <2 3| (for 11 and 13). This corresponds to the 2nd horogram above. | ||
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=Commas= | |||
13 EDO [[tempering out|tempers out]] the following [[comma]]s. (Note: This assumes the val < 13 21 30 36 45 48 |.) | 13 EDO [[tempering out|tempers out]] the following [[comma]]s. (Note: This assumes the val < 13 21 30 36 45 48 |.) | ||
||~ Comma ||~ Monzo ||~ Value (Cents) ||~ Name 1 ||~ Name 2 ||~ Name 3 || | ||~ Comma ||~ Monzo ||~ Value (Cents) ||~ Name 1 ||~ Name 2 ||~ Name 3 || | ||
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||= 441/440 ||< | -3 2 -1 2 -1 > ||> 3.93 ||= Werckisma ||= ||= ||</pre></div> | ||= 441/440 ||< | -3 2 -1 2 -1 > ||> 3.93 ||= Werckisma ||= ||= ||</pre></div> | ||
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13edo refers to a tuning system which divides the octave (frequency ratio 2:1) into 13 equal parts. The steps are of similar size to those of 12edo (albeit squashed), while the intervals between a minor third &amp; major sixth are xenharmonic (not similar to anything available in 12edo).<br /> | 13edo refers to a tuning system which divides the octave (frequency ratio 2:1) into 13 equal parts. The steps are of similar size to those of 12edo (albeit squashed), while the intervals between a minor third &amp; major sixth are xenharmonic (not similar to anything available in 12edo).<br /> | ||
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*based on treating 13-EDO as a 2.5.9.11.13 temperament; other approaches are possible.<br /> | *based on treating 13-EDO as a 2.5.9.11.13 temperament; other approaches are possible.<br /> | ||
based on the 6L1s heptatonic scale; see below.<br /> | |||
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Contrary to popular belief, consonant harmony is possible in 13-EDO, but it requires a radically different approach than that used in 12-EDO (or other Pythagorean or Meantone-based tunings). Trying to approximate the usual major and minor triads of 12-EDO within 13-EDO is usually a disappointment if consonance is the goal; 0-3-7, 0-4-7, 0-3-8, and 0-4-8 are all rather rough in 13-EDO. Typically, the most consonant harmonies do not use a &quot;stack of 3rds&quot; the way they do in 12-TET, since the strongest dissonances in 13-EDO are near the middle of the octave (degrees 6, 7, and 8). Instead, a stack of whole-tones, or a mixture of whole-tones and minor 3rds, often yields good results. For example, one way to view 13-EDO is as a subgroup temperament of harmonics 2.5.9.11.13. It actually performs quite admirably in this regard, and a chord of 0-4-15-19-22 (approximating 4:5:9:11:13) sounds very convincing. An even larger subgroup is the <a class="wiki_link" href="/k%2AN%20subgroups">2*13 subgroup</a> 2.9.5.21.11.13, on which 13 has the same tuning and commas as 26et. <br /> | Contrary to popular belief, consonant harmony is possible in 13-EDO, but it requires a radically different approach than that used in 12-EDO (or other Pythagorean or Meantone-based tunings). Trying to approximate the usual major and minor triads of 12-EDO within 13-EDO is usually a disappointment if consonance is the goal; 0-3-7, 0-4-7, 0-3-8, and 0-4-8 are all rather rough in 13-EDO. Typically, the most consonant harmonies do not use a &quot;stack of 3rds&quot; the way they do in 12-TET, since the strongest dissonances in 13-EDO are near the middle of the octave (degrees 6, 7, and 8). Instead, a stack of whole-tones, or a mixture of whole-tones and minor 3rds, often yields good results. For example, one way to view 13-EDO is as a subgroup temperament of harmonics 2.5.9.11.13. It actually performs quite admirably in this regard, and a chord of 0-4-15-19-22 (approximating 4:5:9:11:13) sounds very convincing. An even larger subgroup is the <a class="wiki_link" href="/k%2AN%20subgroups">2*13 subgroup</a> 2.9.5.21.11.13, on which 13 has the same tuning and commas as 26et.<br /> | ||
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The 2.9.5.11.13 subgroup has commas 45/44, 65/64 and 81/80, leading to a linear temperament with POTE generator 185.728 cents, quite close to 2\13. Use this as a generator, and at 7 notes (6L1s) two full pentads are available (as well as two more 4:5:9:11 tetrad, and one 4:5:9:13 tetrad).<br /> | The 2.9.5.11.13 subgroup has commas 45/44, 65/64 and 81/80, leading to a linear temperament with POTE generator 185.728 cents, quite close to 2\13. Use this as a generator, and at 7 notes (6L1s) two full pentads are available (as well as two more 4:5:9:11 tetrad, and one 4:5:9:13 tetrad).<br /> | ||
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Due to the prime character of the number 13, 13edo can form several xenharmonic <a class="wiki_link" href="/MOSScales">moment of symmetry scales</a>. The diagram below shows five &quot;families&quot; of MOS scales: those generated by making a chain of 2\13 (two degrees of 13edo), 3\13, 4\13, 5\13, &amp; 6\13, respectively.<br /> | Due to the prime character of the number 13, 13edo can form several xenharmonic <a class="wiki_link" href="/MOSScales">moment of symmetry scales</a>. The diagram below shows five &quot;families&quot; of MOS scales: those generated by making a chain of 2\13 (two degrees of 13edo), 3\13, 4\13, 5\13, &amp; 6\13, respectively.<br /> | ||
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~diagram by Andrew Heathwaite, based on horograms pioneered by Erv Wilson<br /> | ~diagram by Andrew Heathwaite, based on horograms pioneered by Erv Wilson<br /> | ||
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Another neat facet of 13-EDO is the fact that any 12-EDO scale can be &quot;turned into&quot; a 13-EDO scale by either adding an extra semitone, or turning an existent semitone into a whole-tone. Because of this, melody in 13-EDO can be quite mind-bending and uncanny, and phrases that begin in a familiar way quickly lead to something totally unexpected.<br /> | Another neat facet of 13-EDO is the fact that any 12-EDO scale can be &quot;turned into&quot; a 13-EDO scale by either adding an extra semitone, or turning an existent semitone into a whole-tone. Because of this, melody in 13-EDO can be quite mind-bending and uncanny, and phrases that begin in a familiar way quickly lead to something totally unexpected.<br /> | ||
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<a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://www.microtonalmusic.net/audio/slowdance13edo.mp3" rel="nofollow">Slow Dance</a> by <a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://danielthompson.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">Daniel Thompson</a><br /> | <a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://www.microtonalmusic.net/audio/slowdance13edo.mp3" rel="nofollow">Slow Dance</a> by <a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://danielthompson.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">Daniel Thompson</a><br /> | ||
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<a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://www.last.fm/music/City+of+the+Asleep/Map+of+an+Internal+Landscape/Blinding+White+Darkness" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Blinding White Darkness</a> by <a class="wiki_link" href="/IgliashonJones">City of the Asleep</a><br /> | <a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://www.last.fm/music/City+of+the+Asleep/Map+of+an+Internal+Landscape/Blinding+White+Darkness" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Blinding White Darkness</a> by <a class="wiki_link" href="/IgliashonJones">City of the Asleep</a><br /> | ||
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From a temperament perspective, we can probably make the best use of 13-EDO as a 2.5.9.11.13 subgroup, but assuming our goal is to make reasonably-tonal, triad-based music, we might prefer to think in terms of subsets of this subgroup. The most accurately-tuned subsets are 2.5.9, 2.5.11, 2.5.13, and 2.11.13, and for each of these, there is a corresponding MOS generator that is maximally-efficient at producing the desired triad. For 2.5.13, the simplest generator is 4\13, with an octave-equivalent mapping &lt;1 -1| (for 5 and 13), corresponding to the 3rd horogram above. For 2.11.13, the simplest generator is 3\13, with an octave-equivalent mapping &lt;2 3| (for 11 and 13). This corresponds to the 2nd horogram above.<br /> | From a temperament perspective, we can probably make the best use of 13-EDO as a 2.5.9.11.13 subgroup, but assuming our goal is to make reasonably-tonal, triad-based music, we might prefer to think in terms of subsets of this subgroup. The most accurately-tuned subsets are 2.5.9, 2.5.11, 2.5.13, and 2.11.13, and for each of these, there is a corresponding MOS generator that is maximally-efficient at producing the desired triad. For 2.5.13, the simplest generator is 4\13, with an octave-equivalent mapping &lt;1 -1| (for 5 and 13), corresponding to the 3rd horogram above. For 2.11.13, the simplest generator is 3\13, with an octave-equivalent mapping &lt;2 3| (for 11 and 13). This corresponds to the 2nd horogram above.<br /> | ||
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13 EDO <a class="wiki_link" href="/tempering%20out">tempers out</a> the following <a class="wiki_link" href="/comma">comma</a>s. (Note: This assumes the val &lt; 13 21 30 36 45 48 |.)<br /> | 13 EDO <a class="wiki_link" href="/tempering%20out">tempers out</a> the following <a class="wiki_link" href="/comma">comma</a>s. (Note: This assumes the val &lt; 13 21 30 36 45 48 |.)<br /> | ||