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| Würschmidt | | Würschmidt |
| The [[xenharmonic/5-limit|5-limit]] parent comma for the würschmidt family is 393216/390625, known as Würschmidt's comma, and named after José Würschmidt, Its [[xenharmonic/monzo|monzo]] is |17 1 -8>, and flipping that yields <<8 1 17|| for the wedgie. This tells us the [[xenharmonic/generator|generator]] is a major third, and that to get to the interval class of fifths will require eight of these. In fact, (5/4)^8 * 393216/390625 = 6. 10\31, 11\34 or 21\65 are possible generators and other tunings include 96edo, 99edo and 164edo. Another tuning solution is to sharpen the major third by 1/8th of a Würschmidt comma, which is to say by 1.43 cents, and thereby achieve pure fifths; this is the [[xenharmonic/minimax tuning|minimax tuning]]. Würschmidt is well-supplied with MOS scales, with 10, 13, 16, 19, 22, 25, 28, 31 and 34 note [[xenharmonic/MOS|MOS]] all possibilities.
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| [[xenharmonic/POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: 387.799 | | The [[5-limit|5-limit]] parent comma for the würschmidt family is 393216/390625, known as Würschmidt's comma, and named after José Würschmidt, Its [[monzo|monzo]] is |17 1 -8>, and flipping that yields <<8 1 17|| for the wedgie. This tells us the [[generator|generator]] is a major third, and that to get to the interval class of fifths will require eight of these. In fact, (5/4)^8 * 393216/390625 = 6. 10\31, 11\34 or 21\65 are possible generators and other tunings include 96edo, 99edo and 164edo. Another tuning solution is to sharpen the major third by 1/8th of a Würschmidt comma, which is to say by 1.43 cents, and thereby achieve pure fifths; this is the [[Minimax_tuning|minimax tuning]]. Würschmidt is well-supplied with MOS scales, with 10, 13, 16, 19, 22, 25, 28, 31 and 34 note [[MOS|MOS]] all possibilities. |
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| Map: [<1 7 3|, <0 -8 -1|] | | Map: [<1 7 3|, <0 -8 -1|] |
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| EDOs: [[xenharmonic/31edo|31]], [[xenharmonic/34edo|34]], [[xenharmonic/65edo|65]], [[xenharmonic/99edo|99]], [[xenharmonic/164edo|164]], [[xenharmonic/721edo|721c]], [[xenharmonic/885edo|885c]] | | EDOs: [[31edo|31]], [[34edo|34]], [[65edo|65]], [[99edo|99]], [[164edo|164]], [[721edo|721c]], [[885edo|885c]] |
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| | [http://chrisvaisvil.com/ancient-stardust-wurschmidt13/ Ancient Stardust] [http://micro.soonlabel.com/jake_freivald/tunings_by_jake_freivald/20130811_wurschmidt%5b13%5d.mp3 play] by Chris Vaisvil |
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| [[http://chrisvaisvil.com/ancient-stardust-wurschmidt13/|Ancient Stardust]] [[http://micro.soonlabel.com/jake_freivald/tunings_by_jake_freivald/20130811_wurschmidt%5b13%5d.mp3|play]] by Chris Vaisvil
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| Würschmidt[13] in 5-limit minimax tuning | | Würschmidt[13] in 5-limit minimax tuning |
| [[http://micro.soonlabel.com/gene_ward_smith/Others/Freivald/Wurschmidt%5b16%5d-out.mp3|Extrospection]] by [[https://soundcloud.com/jdfreivald/extrospection|Jake Freivald]]; Würschmidt[16] tuned in 31et.
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| ==Seven limit children==
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| The second comma of the [[xenharmonic/Normal lists|normal comma list]] defines which 7-limit family member we are looking at. Wurschmidt adds |12 3 -6 -1>, worschmidt adds 65625/65536 = |-16 1 5 1>, whirrschmidt adds 4375/4374 = |-1 -7 4 1> and hemiwuerschmidt adds 6144/6125 = |11 1 -3 -2>.
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| =Würschmidt= | | [http://micro.soonlabel.com/gene_ward_smith/Others/Freivald/Wurschmidt%5b16%5d-out.mp3 Extrospection] by [https://soundcloud.com/jdfreivald/extrospection Jake Freivald]; Würschmidt[16] tuned in 31et. |
| Würschmidt, aside from the commas listed above, also tempers out 225/224. [[xenharmonic/31edo|31edo]] or [[xenharmonic/127edo|127edo]] can be used as tunings. Würschmidt has <<8 1 18 -17 6 39|| for a wedgie. It extends naturally to an 11-limit version <<8 1 18 20 ,,,|| which also tempers out 99/98, 176/175 and 243/242. [[xenharmonic/127edo|127edo]] is again an excellent tuning for 11-limit wurschmidt, as well as for minerva, the 11-limit rank three temperament tempering out 99/98 and 176/175. | | |
| | ==Seven limit children== |
| | The second comma of the [[Normal_lists|normal comma list]] defines which 7-limit family member we are looking at. Wurschmidt adds |12 3 -6 -1>, worschmidt adds 65625/65536 = |-16 1 5 1>, whirrschmidt adds 4375/4374 = |-1 -7 4 1> and hemiwuerschmidt adds 6144/6125 = |11 1 -3 -2>. |
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| | =Würschmidt= |
| | Würschmidt, aside from the commas listed above, also tempers out 225/224. [[31edo|31edo]] or [[127edo|127edo]] can be used as tunings. Würschmidt has <<8 1 18 -17 6 39|| for a wedgie. It extends naturally to an 11-limit version <<8 1 18 20 ,,,|| which also tempers out 99/98, 176/175 and 243/242. [[127edo|127edo]] is again an excellent tuning for 11-limit wurschmidt, as well as for minerva, the 11-limit rank three temperament tempering out 99/98 and 176/175. |
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| Commas: 225/224, 8748/8575 | | Commas: 225/224, 8748/8575 |
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| [[xenharmonic/POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: 387.383 | | [[POTE_tuning|POTE generator]]: 387.383 |
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| Map: [<1 7 3 15|, <0 -8 -1 -18|] | | Map: [<1 7 3 15|, <0 -8 -1 -18|] |
| EDOs: [[xenharmonic/31edo|31]], [[xenharmonic/96edo|96]], [[xenharmonic/127edo|127]], [[xenharmonic/285edo|28bd]], [[xenharmonic/412edo|412bd]] | | |
| | EDOs: [[31edo|31]], [[96edo|96]], [[127edo|127]], [[285edo|28bd]], [[412edo|412bd]] |
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| Badness: 0.0508 | | Badness: 0.0508 |
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| ==11-limit== | | ==11-limit== |
| Commas: 99/98, 176/175, 243/242 | | Commas: 99/98, 176/175, 243/242 |
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| Map: [<1 7 3 15 17|, <0 -8 -1 -18 -20|] | | Map: [<1 7 3 15 17|, <0 -8 -1 -18 -20|] |
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| EDOs: 31, 65d, 96, 127, 223d | | EDOs: 31, 65d, 96, 127, 223d |
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| Badness: 0.0244 | | Badness: 0.0244 |
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| ==13-limit== | | ==13-limit== |
| Commas: 99/98, 144/143, 176/175, 275/273 | | Commas: 99/98, 144/143, 176/175, 275/273 |
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| Map: [<1 7 3 15 17 1|, <0 -8 -1 -18 -20 4|] | | Map: [<1 7 3 15 17 1|, <0 -8 -1 -18 -20 4|] |
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| EDOs: 31, 65d, 161df | | EDOs: 31, 65d, 161df |
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| Badness: 0.0236 | | Badness: 0.0236 |
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| ==Worseschmidt== | | ==Worseschmidt== |
| Commas: 66/65, 99/98, 105/104, 243/242 | | Commas: 66/65, 99/98, 105/104, 243/242 |
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| Map: [<1 7 3 15 17 22|, <0 -8 -1 -18 -20 -27|] | | Map: [<1 7 3 15 17 22|, <0 -8 -1 -18 -20 -27|] |
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| EDOs: 31 | | EDOs: 31 |
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| Badness: 0.0344 | | Badness: 0.0344 |
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| =Worschmidt= | | =Worschmidt= |
| Worschmidt tempers out 126/125 rather than 225/224, and can use [[xenharmonic/31edo|31edo]], [[xenharmonic/34edo|34edo]], or [[xenharmonic/127edo|127edo]] as a tuning. If 127 is used, note that the val is <127 201 295 356| and not <127 201 295 357| as with wurschmidt. The wedgie now is <<8 1 -13 -17 -43 -33|. In practice, of course, both mappings could be used ambiguously, which might be an interesting avenue for someone to explore. | | Worschmidt tempers out 126/125 rather than 225/224, and can use [[31edo|31edo]], [[34edo|34edo]], or [[127edo|127edo]] as a tuning. If 127 is used, note that the val is <127 201 295 356| and not <127 201 295 357| as with wurschmidt. The wedgie now is <<8 1 -13 -17 -43 -33|. In practice, of course, both mappings could be used ambiguously, which might be an interesting avenue for someone to explore. |
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| Commas: 126/125, 33075/32768 | | Commas: 126/125, 33075/32768 |
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| [[xenharmonic/POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: 387.392 | | [[POTE_tuning|POTE generator]]: 387.392 |
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| Map: [<1 7 3 -6|, <0 -8 -1 13|] | | Map: [<1 7 3 -6|, <0 -8 -1 13|] |
| EDOs: [[xenharmonic/31edo|31]], [[xenharmonic/65edo|65]], [[xenharmonic/96edo|96d]], [[xenharmonic/127edo|127d]] | | |
| | EDOs: [[31edo|31]], [[65edo|65]], [[96edo|96d]], [[127edo|127d]] |
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| Badness: 0.0646 | | Badness: 0.0646 |
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| Commas: 126/125, 243/242, 385/384 | | Commas: 126/125, 243/242, 385/384 |
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| Map: [<1 7 3 -6 17|, <0 -8 -1 13 -20|] | | Map: [<1 7 3 -6 17|, <0 -8 -1 13 -20|] |
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| EDOs: 31, 65, 96d, 127d | | EDOs: 31, 65, 96d, 127d |
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| Badness: 0.0334 | | Badness: 0.0334 |
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| =Whirrschmidt= | | =Whirrschmidt= |
| [[xenharmonic/99edo|99edo]] is such a good tuning for whirrschimdt that we hardly need look any farther. Unfortunately, the temperament while accurate is complex, with <<8 1 52 -17 60 118|| for a wedgie. | | [[99edo|99edo]] is such a good tuning for whirrschimdt that we hardly need look any farther. Unfortunately, the temperament while accurate is complex, with <<8 1 52 -17 60 118|| for a wedgie. |
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| Commas: 4375/4374, 393216/390625 | | Commas: 4375/4374, 393216/390625 |
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| [[xenharmonic/POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: 387.881 | | [[POTE_tuning|POTE generator]]: 387.881 |
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| Map: [<1 7 3 38|, <0 -8 -1 -52|] | | Map: [<1 7 3 38|, <0 -8 -1 -52|] |
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| EDOs: [[xenharmonic/31edo|31]], [[xenharmonic/34edo|34]], [[xenharmonic/65edo|65]], [[xenharmonic/99edo|99]] | | EDOs: [[31edo|31]], [[34edo|34]], [[65edo|65]], [[99edo|99]] |
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| =Hemiwürschmidt= | | =Hemiwürschmidt= |
| Hemiwürschmidt, which splits the major third in two and uses that for a generator, is the most important of these temperaments even with the rather large complexity for the fifth. It tempers out 3136/3125, 6144/6125 and 2401/2400. [[xenharmonic/68edo|68edo]], [[xenharmonic/99edo|99edo]] and [[xenharmonic/130edo|130edo]] can all be used as tunings, but 130 is not only the most accurate, it shows how hemiwürschmidt extends to a higher limit temperament, <<16 2 5 40 -39 -49 -48 28... | | Hemiwürschmidt, which splits the major third in two and uses that for a generator, is the most important of these temperaments even with the rather large complexity for the fifth. It tempers out 3136/3125, 6144/6125 and 2401/2400. [[68edo|68edo]], [[99edo|99edo]] and [[130edo|130edo]] can all be used as tunings, but 130 is not only the most accurate, it shows how hemiwürschmidt extends to a higher limit temperament, <<16 2 5 40 -39 -49 -48 28... |
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| Commas: 2401/2400, 3136/3125 | | Commas: 2401/2400, 3136/3125 |
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| [[xenharmonic/POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: ~28/25 = 193.898 | | [[POTE_tuning|POTE generator]]: ~28/25 = 193.898 |
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| Map: [<1 15 4 7|, <0 -16 -2 -5|] | | Map: [<1 15 4 7|, <0 -16 -2 -5|] |
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| <<16 2 5 -34 -37 6|| | | <<16 2 5 -34 -37 6|| |
| EDOs: [[xenharmonic/6edo|6]], [[xenharmonic/31edo|31]], [[xenharmonic/37edo|37]], [[xenharmonic/68edo|68]], [[xenharmonic/99edo|99]], [[xenharmonic/229edo|229]], [[xenharmonic/328edo|328]], [[xenharmonic/557edo|557c]], [[xenharmonic/885edo|885c]] | | |
| | EDOs: [[6edo|6]], [[31edo|31]], [[37edo|37]], [[68edo|68]], [[99edo|99]], [[229edo|229]], [[328edo|328]], [[557edo|557c]], [[885edo|885c]] |
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| Badness: 0.0203 | | Badness: 0.0203 |
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| Commas: 243/242, 441/440, 3136/3125 | | Commas: 243/242, 441/440, 3136/3125 |
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| [[xenharmonic/POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: ~28/25 = 193.840 | | [[POTE_tuning|POTE generator]]: ~28/25 = 193.840 |
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| Map: [<1 15 4 7 37|, <0 -16 -2 -5 -40|] | | Map: [<1 15 4 7 37|, <0 -16 -2 -5 -40|] |
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| EDOs: 31, 99e, 130, 650ce, 811ce | | EDOs: 31, 99e, 130, 650ce, 811ce |
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| Badness: 0.0211 | | Badness: 0.0211 |
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| Commas: 243/242 351/350 441/440 3584/3575 | | Commas: 243/242 351/350 441/440 3584/3575 |
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| EDOs: 31, 99e, 130, 291, 421e, 551ce | | EDOs: 31, 99e, 130, 291, 421e, 551ce |
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| Badness: 0.0231 | | Badness: 0.0231 |
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| Commas: 121/120 176/175 196/195 275/273 | | Commas: 121/120 176/175 196/195 275/273 |
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| EDOs: 31, 68e, 99ef | | EDOs: 31, 68e, 99ef |
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| Badness: 0.0312 | | Badness: 0.0312 |
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| Commas: 121/120, 176/175, 1375/1372 | | Commas: 121/120, 176/175, 1375/1372 |
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| EDOs: 6, 31, 68, 99, 130e, 229e | | EDOs: 6, 31, 68, 99, 130e, 229e |
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| Commas: 121/120, 176/175, 196/195, 275/273 | | Commas: 121/120, 176/175, 196/195, 275/273 |
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| EDOs: 6, 31, 68, 99f, 167ef | | EDOs: 6, 31, 68, 99f, 167ef |
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| Badness: 0.0284 | | Badness: 0.0284 |
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| Commas: 66/65, 105/104, 121/120, 1375/1372 | | Commas: 66/65, 105/104, 121/120, 1375/1372 |
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| EDOs: 31 | | EDOs: 31 |
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| Badness: 0.0449 | | Badness: 0.0449 |
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| =Relationships to other temperaments= | | =Relationships to other temperaments= |
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| 2-Würschmidt, the temperament with all the same commas as Würschmidt but a generator of twice the size, is equivalent to [[xenharmonic/skwares|skwares]] as a 2.3.7.11 temperament.</pre></div> | | |
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| | 2-Würschmidt, the temperament with all the same commas as Würschmidt but a generator of twice the size, is equivalent to [[Skwares|skwares]] as a 2.3.7.11 temperament. |
| <div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;width:200%;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html"><html><head><title>Würschmidt family</title></head><body><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:32:&lt;img id=&quot;wikitext@@toc@@normal&quot; class=&quot;WikiMedia WikiMediaToc&quot; title=&quot;Table of Contents&quot; src=&quot;/site/embedthumbnail/toc/normal?w=225&amp;h=100&quot;/&gt; --><div id="toc"><h1 class="nopad">Table of Contents</h1><!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:32 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:33: --><div style="margin-left: 2em;"><a href="#x-Seven limit children">Seven limit children</a></div>
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| <!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:33 --><!-- ws:start:WikiTextTocRule:34: --><div style="margin-left: 1em;"><a href="#Würschmidt">Würschmidt</a></div>
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| The <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/5-limit">5-limit</a> parent comma for the würschmidt family is 393216/390625, known as Würschmidt's comma, and named after José Würschmidt, Its <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/monzo">monzo</a> is |17 1 -8&gt;, and flipping that yields &lt;&lt;8 1 17|| for the wedgie. This tells us the <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/generator">generator</a> is a major third, and that to get to the interval class of fifths will require eight of these. In fact, (5/4)^8 * 393216/390625 = 6. 10\31, 11\34 or 21\65 are possible generators and other tunings include 96edo, 99edo and 164edo. Another tuning solution is to sharpen the major third by 1/8th of a Würschmidt comma, which is to say by 1.43 cents, and thereby achieve pure fifths; this is the <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/minimax%20tuning">minimax tuning</a>. Würschmidt is well-supplied with MOS scales, with 10, 13, 16, 19, 22, 25, 28, 31 and 34 note <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/MOS">MOS</a> all possibilities.<br />
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| <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/POTE%20tuning">POTE generator</a>: 387.799<br />
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| Map: [&lt;1 7 3|, &lt;0 -8 -1|]<br />
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| EDOs: <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/31edo">31</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/34edo">34</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/65edo">65</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/99edo">99</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/164edo">164</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/721edo">721c</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/885edo">885c</a><br />
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| <a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://chrisvaisvil.com/ancient-stardust-wurschmidt13/" rel="nofollow">Ancient Stardust</a> <a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://micro.soonlabel.com/jake_freivald/tunings_by_jake_freivald/20130811_wurschmidt%5b13%5d.mp3" rel="nofollow">play</a> by Chris Vaisvil<br />
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| Würschmidt[13] in 5-limit minimax tuning<br />
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| <a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://micro.soonlabel.com/gene_ward_smith/Others/Freivald/Wurschmidt%5b16%5d-out.mp3" rel="nofollow">Extrospection</a> by <a class="wiki_link_ext" href="https://soundcloud.com/jdfreivald/extrospection" rel="nofollow">Jake Freivald</a>; Würschmidt[16] tuned in 31et.<br />
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| <!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:0:&lt;h2&gt; --><h2 id="toc0"><a name="x-Seven limit children"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:0 -->Seven limit children</h2>
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| The second comma of the <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/Normal%20lists">normal comma list</a> defines which 7-limit family member we are looking at. Wurschmidt adds |12 3 -6 -1&gt;, worschmidt adds 65625/65536 = |-16 1 5 1&gt;, whirrschmidt adds 4375/4374 = |-1 -7 4 1&gt; and hemiwuerschmidt adds 6144/6125 = |11 1 -3 -2&gt;.<br />
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| <!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:2:&lt;h1&gt; --><h1 id="toc1"><a name="Würschmidt"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:2 -->Würschmidt</h1>
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| Würschmidt, aside from the commas listed above, also tempers out 225/224. <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/31edo">31edo</a> or <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/127edo">127edo</a> can be used as tunings. Würschmidt has &lt;&lt;8 1 18 -17 6 39|| for a wedgie. It extends naturally to an 11-limit version &lt;&lt;8 1 18 20 ,,,|| which also tempers out 99/98, 176/175 and 243/242. <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/127edo">127edo</a> is again an excellent tuning for 11-limit wurschmidt, as well as for minerva, the 11-limit rank three temperament tempering out 99/98 and 176/175.<br />
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| Commas: 225/224, 8748/8575<br />
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| <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/POTE%20tuning">POTE generator</a>: 387.383<br />
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| Map: [&lt;1 7 3 15|, &lt;0 -8 -1 -18|]<br />
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| EDOs: <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/31edo">31</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/96edo">96</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/127edo">127</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/285edo">28bd</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/412edo">412bd</a><br />
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| Badness: 0.0508<br />
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| <!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:4:&lt;h2&gt; --><h2 id="toc2"><a name="Würschmidt-11-limit"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:4 -->11-limit</h2>
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| Commas: 99/98, 176/175, 243/242<br />
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| POTE generator: ~5/4 = 387.447<br />
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| Map: [&lt;1 7 3 15 17|, &lt;0 -8 -1 -18 -20|]<br />
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| EDOs: 31, 65d, 96, 127, 223d<br />
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| Badness: 0.0244<br />
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| Commas: 99/98, 144/143, 176/175, 275/273<br />
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| POTE generator: ~5/4 = 387.626<br />
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| Map: [&lt;1 7 3 15 17 1|, &lt;0 -8 -1 -18 -20 4|]<br />
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| EDOs: 31, 65d, 161df<br />
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| Badness: 0.0236<br />
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| <!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:8:&lt;h2&gt; --><h2 id="toc4"><a name="Würschmidt-Worseschmidt"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:8 -->Worseschmidt</h2>
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| Commas: 66/65, 99/98, 105/104, 243/242<br />
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| POTE generator: ~5/4 = 387.099<br />
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| Map: [&lt;1 7 3 15 17 22|, &lt;0 -8 -1 -18 -20 -27|]<br />
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| EDOs: 31<br />
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| Badness: 0.0344<br />
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| <!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:10:&lt;h1&gt; --><h1 id="toc5"><a name="Worschmidt"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:10 -->Worschmidt</h1>
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| Worschmidt tempers out 126/125 rather than 225/224, and can use <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/31edo">31edo</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/34edo">34edo</a>, or <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/127edo">127edo</a> as a tuning. If 127 is used, note that the val is &lt;127 201 295 356| and not &lt;127 201 295 357| as with wurschmidt. The wedgie now is &lt;&lt;8 1 -13 -17 -43 -33|. In practice, of course, both mappings could be used ambiguously, which might be an interesting avenue for someone to explore.<br />
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| Commas: 126/125, 33075/32768<br />
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| <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/POTE%20tuning">POTE generator</a>: 387.392<br />
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| Map: [&lt;1 7 3 -6|, &lt;0 -8 -1 13|]<br />
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| EDOs: <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/31edo">31</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/65edo">65</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/96edo">96d</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/127edo">127d</a><br />
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| Badness: 0.0646<br />
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| Commas: 126/125, 243/242, 385/384<br />
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| POTE generator: ~5/4 = 387.407<br />
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| Map: [&lt;1 7 3 -6 17|, &lt;0 -8 -1 13 -20|]<br />
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| EDOs: 31, 65, 96d, 127d<br />
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| Badness: 0.0334<br />
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| <!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:14:&lt;h1&gt; --><h1 id="toc7"><a name="Whirrschmidt"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:14 -->Whirrschmidt</h1>
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| <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/99edo">99edo</a> is such a good tuning for whirrschimdt that we hardly need look any farther. Unfortunately, the temperament while accurate is complex, with &lt;&lt;8 1 52 -17 60 118|| for a wedgie.<br />
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| Commas: 4375/4374, 393216/390625<br />
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| <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/POTE%20tuning">POTE generator</a>: 387.881<br />
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| Map: [&lt;1 7 3 38|, &lt;0 -8 -1 -52|]<br />
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| EDOs: <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/31edo">31</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/34edo">34</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/65edo">65</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/99edo">99</a><br />
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| Hemiwürschmidt, which splits the major third in two and uses that for a generator, is the most important of these temperaments even with the rather large complexity for the fifth. It tempers out 3136/3125, 6144/6125 and 2401/2400. <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/68edo">68edo</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/99edo">99edo</a> and <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/130edo">130edo</a> can all be used as tunings, but 130 is not only the most accurate, it shows how hemiwürschmidt extends to a higher limit temperament, &lt;&lt;16 2 5 40 -39 -49 -48 28...<br />
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| Commas: 2401/2400, 3136/3125<br />
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| <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/POTE%20tuning">POTE generator</a>: ~28/25 = 193.898<br />
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| Map: [&lt;1 15 4 7|, &lt;0 -16 -2 -5|]<br />
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| &lt;&lt;16 2 5 -34 -37 6||<br />
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| EDOs: <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/6edo">6</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/31edo">31</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/37edo">37</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/68edo">68</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/99edo">99</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/229edo">229</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/328edo">328</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/557edo">557c</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/885edo">885c</a><br />
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| Badness: 0.0203<br />
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| Commas: 243/242, 441/440, 3136/3125<br />
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| <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/POTE%20tuning">POTE generator</a>: ~28/25 = 193.840<br />
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| Map: [&lt;1 15 4 7 37|, &lt;0 -16 -2 -5 -40|]<br />
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| EDOs: 31, 99e, 130, 650ce, 811ce<br />
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| Badness: 0.0211<br />
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| <!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:20:&lt;h3&gt; --><h3 id="toc10"><a name="Hemiwürschmidt-11-limit-13-limit"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:20 -->13-limit</h3>
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| Commas: 243/242 351/350 441/440 3584/3575<br />
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| POTE generator: ~28/25 = 193.840<br />
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| Map: [&lt;1 15 4 7 37 -29|, &lt;0 -16 -2 -5 -40 39|]<br />
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| EDOs: 31, 99e, 130, 291, 421e, 551ce<br />
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| Badness: 0.0231<br />
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| Commas: 121/120 176/175 196/195 275/273<br />
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| POTE generator: ~28/25 = 193.918<br />
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| Map: [&lt;1 15 4 7 37 -3|, &lt;0 -16 -2 -5 -40 8|]<br />
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| EDOs: 31, 68e, 99ef<br />
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| Badness: 0.0312<br />
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| <!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:24:&lt;h2&gt; --><h2 id="toc12"><a name="Hemiwürschmidt-Hemiwur"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:24 -->Hemiwur</h2>
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| Commas: 121/120, 176/175, 1375/1372<br />
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| POTE generator: ~28/25 = 193.884<br />
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| Map: [&lt;1 15 4 7 11|, &lt;0 -16 -2 -5 -9|]<br />
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| EDOs: 6, 31, 68, 99, 130e, 229e<br />
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| Badness: 0.0293<br />
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| Commas: 121/120, 176/175, 196/195, 275/273<br />
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| POTE generator: ~28/25 = 194.004<br />
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| Map: [&lt;1 15 4 7 11 -3|, &lt;0 -16 -2 -5 -9 8|]<br />
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| EDOs: 6, 31, 68, 99f, 167ef<br />
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| Badness: 0.0284<br />
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| <!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:28:&lt;h3&gt; --><h3 id="toc14"><a name="Hemiwürschmidt-Hemiwur-Hemiwar"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:28 -->Hemiwar</h3>
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| Commas: 66/65, 105/104, 121/120, 1375/1372<br />
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| POTE generator: ~28/25 = 193.698<br />
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| Map: [&lt;1 15 4 7 11 23|, &lt;0 -16 -2 -5 -9 -23|]<br />
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| EDOs: 31<br />
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| Badness: 0.0449<br />
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| <span style="display: block; height: 1px; left: -40px; overflow: hidden; position: absolute; top: -25px; width: 1px;">around 775.489 which is approximately</span><br />
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| 2-Würschmidt, the temperament with all the same commas as Würschmidt but a generator of twice the size, is equivalent to <a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/skwares">skwares</a> as a 2.3.7.11 temperament.</body></html></pre></div>
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