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0-11-18 = ^M
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0-12-18 = sus-v4
0-12-18 = sus-v4
==**__Cross-EDO considerations__**==
In 22edo, the major chord is 0¢-436¢-709¢. In 19edo, it's 0¢-379¢-695¢. The two chords sound quite different, because "major 3rd" is defined only in terms of the fifth, not in terms of what JI ratios it approximates. To describe the sound of the chord, color notation can be used. 22edo major chords sound red and 19edo major chords sound yellow.
The name "major" refers not to the sound but to the function of the chord. If you want to pump an 81/80 with a I - VIm - IIm - V - I progression, you can do that in any edo, as long as you use major and minor chords.


==__EDOs with an inaccurate 3/2__==  
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8edo heptatonic second-based, seventhwards, no ups and downs (generator = 1\8 2nd):
8edo heptatonic second-based, seventhwards, no ups and downs (generator = 1\8 2nd):
D E F G * A B C D  
D E F G * A B C D
P1 - P2 - m3 - M3/m4 - M4/m5 - M5/m6 - M6 - P7 - P8
P1 - P2 - m3 - M3/m4 - M4/m5 - M5/m6 - M6 - P7 - P8
chain of 2nds: M3 - M4 - M5 - M6 - P7 - P1 - P2 - m3 - m4 - m5 - m6 - d7 etc.
chain of 2nds: M3 - M4 - M5 - M6 - P7 - P1 - P2 - m3 - m4 - m5 - m6 - d7 etc.
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0-12-18 = sus-v4&lt;br /&gt;
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In 22edo, the major chord is 0¢-436¢-709¢. In 19edo, it's 0¢-379¢-695¢. The two chords sound quite different, because &amp;quot;major 3rd&amp;quot; is defined only in terms of the fifth, not in terms of what JI ratios it approximates. To describe the sound of the chord, color notation can be used. 22edo major chords sound red and 19edo major chords sound yellow.&lt;br /&gt;
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The name &amp;quot;major&amp;quot; refers not to the sound but to the function of the chord. If you want to pump an 81/80 with a I - VIm - IIm - V - I progression, you can do that in any edo, as long as you use major and minor chords.&lt;br /&gt;
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Not counting the trivial edos 2, 3, 4 and 6, there are only seven such edos. As seen in this diagram, they are the ones to the left of the central line in the light blue region, plus the ones to the right of the central line in the orange region. The ones on the left edge of the blue region are the fourthward ones like 16edo, and have been dealt with already. 23edo can be notated similarly to 16edo by using a fifth of 13\23 instead of 14\23. That leaves only four edos: 8, 11, 13, and 18.&lt;br /&gt;
Not counting the trivial edos 2, 3, 4 and 6, there are only seven such edos. As seen in this diagram, they are the ones to the left of the central line in the light blue region, plus the ones to the right of the central line in the orange region. The ones on the left edge of the blue region are the fourthward ones like 16edo, and have been dealt with already. 23edo can be notated similarly to 16edo by using a fifth of 13\23 instead of 14\23. That leaves only four edos: 8, 11, 13, and 18.&lt;br /&gt;
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8edo heptatonic second-based, seventhwards, no ups and downs (generator = 1\8 2nd):&lt;br /&gt;
8edo heptatonic second-based, seventhwards, no ups and downs (generator = 1\8 2nd):&lt;br /&gt;
D E F G * A B C D &lt;br /&gt;
D E F G * A B C D&lt;br /&gt;
P1 - P2 - m3 - M3/m4 - M4/m5 - M5/m6 - M6 - P7 - P8&lt;br /&gt;
P1 - P2 - m3 - M3/m4 - M4/m5 - M5/m6 - M6 - P7 - P8&lt;br /&gt;
chain of 2nds: M3 - M4 - M5 - M6 - P7 - P1 - P2 - m3 - m4 - m5 - m6 - d7 etc.&lt;br /&gt;
chain of 2nds: M3 - M4 - M5 - M6 - P7 - P1 - P2 - m3 - m4 - m5 - m6 - d7 etc.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Fifth-less&amp;quot; EDOs (8, 11, 13 and 18)&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Fifth-less&amp;quot; EDOs (8, 11, 13 and 18)&lt;br /&gt;