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=__**Summary of EDO notation**__=  
=__**Summary of EDO notation**__=  


There are five EDO categories, based on the size of the fifth:
Besides the trivial EDOs, 1, 2, 3, 4 and 6, which can be notated with standard notation as a subset of 12-EDO, there are five EDO categories, based on the size of the fifth:
"Fifth-less" EDOs (8, 11, 13 and 18)
"Fifth-less" EDOs (8, 11, 13 and 18)
Fourthward EDOs (9, 16 and 23)
Fourthward EDOs (9, 16 and 23)
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Pentatonic EDOs (5, 10, 15, 20, 25 and 30)
Pentatonic EDOs (5, 10, 15, 20, 25 and 30)
"Sweet" EDOs (all others)
"Sweet" EDOs (all others)
The first two categories never use ups and downs, the next two always do (except for 5edo and 7edo). The last may or may not.  
The first two categories never use ups and downs, the next two always do (except for 5edo and 7edo). The sweet EDOs may or may not.


To summarize an EDO, a scale fragment from C to D is shown, including C# and Db. The C-C# interval is the augmented unison, and if they are not adjacent, ups and downs are required.The C-Db interval is the minor 2nd
To summarize an EDO, a scale fragment from C to D is shown, including C# and Db. The C-C# interval is the augmented unison, and if they are not adjacent, ups and downs are required.The C-Db interval is the minor 2nd
The C-D interval is the major 2nd (P2 for perfect EDOs, m2 for fourthward EDOs).
The C-D interval is the major 2nd (P2 for perfect EDOs, m2 for fourthward EDOs).


===__**"Fifth-less" EDOs (8, 11, 13 and 18)**__===  
===__**"Fifth-less" EDOs (8, 11, 13 and 18)**__===  
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F# - C# - G# - D# - A# - E# - B# - F - C - G - D - A - E - B - Fb - Cb - Gb - Db - Ab - Eb - Bb - Fbb etc.
F# - C# - G# - D# - A# - E# - B# - F - C - G - D - A - E - B - Fb - Cb - Gb - Db - Ab - Eb - Bb - Fbb etc.


**__9edo__:** C/Db C#/D  
**__9edo__:** C/Db C#/D
D E * F G A B * C D
D E * F G A B * C D
D - E - E#/Fb - F - G - A - B - B#/Cb - C - D
D - E - E#/Fb - F - G - A - B - B#/Cb - C - D
P1 - m2 - M2/m3 - M3 - P4 - P5 - m6 - M6/m7 - M7 - P8
P1 - m2 - M2/m3 - M3 - P4 - P5 - m6 - M6/m7 - M7 - P8


**__16edo__:** C C#/Db D  
**__16edo__:** C C#/Db D
D * E * * F * G * A * B * * C * D
D * E * * F * G * A * B * * C * D
D - D#/Eb - E - E# - Fb - F F#/Gb - G - G#/Ab - A - A#/Bb - B - B# - Cb - C - C#/Db - D
D - D#/Eb - E - E# - Fb - F F#/Gb - G - G#/Ab - A - A#/Bb - B - B# - Cb - C - C#/Db - D
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Because everything is perfect, the quality can be omitted: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 - 6 - 7 - 8
Because everything is perfect, the quality can be omitted: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 - 6 - 7 - 8


**__14edo__:** 2 keys per sharp/flat: C/C# * Db/D  
**__14edo__:** 2 keys per sharp/flat: C/C# * Db/D
D * E * F * G * A * B * C * D
D * E * F * G * A * B * C * D
D - D^/Ev - E - E/ Fv - F - F^/Gv - G - G^/Av - A - A^/Bv - B - B^/Cv - C - C^/Dv - D
D - D^/Ev - E - E/ Fv - F - F^/Gv - G - G^/Av - A - A^/Bv - B - B^/Cv - C - C^/Dv - D
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D - D^ - D^^ - Evv - Ev - E/F - F^ - F^^ - Gvv - Gv - G - G^ - G^^ - Avv - Av - A - A^ - A^^ - Bvv - Bv - B/C - C^ - C^^ - Dvv - Dv - D
D - D^ - D^^ - Evv - Ev - E/F - F^ - F^^ - Gvv - Gv - G - G^ - G^^ - Avv - Av - A - A^ - A^^ - Bvv - Bv - B/C - C^ - C^^ - Dvv - Dv - D
P1/m2 - ^m2 - ^^m2 - vvM2 - vM2 - M2/m3 - ^m3 - ^^m3 - vvM3 - vM3 - M3/P4 - ^P4 - ^^P4 - vvP5 - vP5 - P5/m6 - ^m6 - ^^m6 - vvM6 - vM6 - M6/m7 - ^m7 - ^^m7 - vvM7 - vM7 - P8
P1/m2 - ^m2 - ^^m2 - vvM2 - vM2 - M2/m3 - ^m3 - ^^m3 - vvM3 - vM3 - M3/P4 - ^P4 - ^^P4 - vvP5 - vP5 - P5/m6 - ^m6 - ^^m6 - vvM6 - vM6 - M6/m7 - ^m7 - ^^m7 - vvM7 - vM7 - P8
===__Alternative pentatonic notation for pentatonic EDOs:__===
All intervals are perfect, so quality can be omitted.
__**5edo**__**:** zero keys per sharp/flat: C/C# Db/D
D E G A C D
1 - s3 - 4d - 5d - s7 - 8d
__**10edo**__**:** zero keys per sharp/flat: C/C# * Db/D
D * E * G * A * C * D
D - D^/Ev - E - E^/Gv - G - G^/Av - A - A^/Cv - C - C^/Dv - D
1 - ^1/vs3 - s3 - ^s3/v4d - 4d - ^4d/v5d - 5d - ^5d/vs7 - s7 - ^s7/v8d - 8d
__**15edo**__**:** zero keys per sharp/flat: C/C# * * Db/D
D * * E * * G * * A * * C * * D
D - D^ - Ev - E - E^ - Gv - G - G^ - Av - A - A^ - Cv - C - C^ - Dv - D
1 - ^1 - vs3 - s3 - ^s3 - v4d - 4d - ^4d - v5d - 5d - ^5d - vs7 - s7 - ^s7 - v8d - 8d
etc.




===__"Sweet" EDOs (12, 17, 19, 22, 24, 26, 27, 29, 31, etc.)__===  
===__"Sweet" EDOs (12, 17, 19, 22, 24, 26, 27, 29, 31, 32, 33, 34, 36 and all higher ones)__===  


All sweet EDOs use the usual chain of fifths: m2 - m6 - m3 - m7 - P4 - P1 - P5 - M2 - M6 - M3 - M7 etc.
All sweet EDOs use the usual chain of fifths: m2 - m6 - m3 - m7 - P4 - P1 - P5 - M2 - M6 - M3 - M7 etc.
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Not counting the trivial edos 2, 3, 4 and 6, there are only seven such edos. As seen in this diagram, they are the ones to the left of the central line in the light blue region, plus the ones to the right of the central line in the orange region. The ones on the left edge of the blue region are the fourthward ones like 16edo, and have been dealt with already. 23edo can be notated similarly to 16edo by using a fifth of 13\23 instead of 14\23. That leaves only four edos: 8, 11, 13, and 18.&lt;br /&gt;
Not counting the trivial edos 2, 3, 4 and 6, there are only seven such edos. As seen in this diagram, they are the ones to the left of the central line in the light blue region, plus the ones to the right of the central line in the orange region. The ones on the left edge of the blue region are the fourthward ones like 16edo, and have been dealt with already. 23edo can be notated similarly to 16edo by using a fifth of 13\23 instead of 14\23. That leaves only four edos: 8, 11, 13, and 18.&lt;br /&gt;
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There are five EDO categories, based on the size of the fifth:&lt;br /&gt;
Besides the trivial EDOs, 1, 2, 3, 4 and 6, which can be notated with standard notation as a subset of 12-EDO, there are five EDO categories, based on the size of the fifth:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Fifth-less&amp;quot; EDOs (8, 11, 13 and 18)&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Fifth-less&amp;quot; EDOs (8, 11, 13 and 18)&lt;br /&gt;
Fourthward EDOs (9, 16 and 23)&lt;br /&gt;
Fourthward EDOs (9, 16 and 23)&lt;br /&gt;
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Pentatonic EDOs (5, 10, 15, 20, 25 and 30)&lt;br /&gt;
Pentatonic EDOs (5, 10, 15, 20, 25 and 30)&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Sweet&amp;quot; EDOs (all others)&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Sweet&amp;quot; EDOs (all others)&lt;br /&gt;
The first two categories never use ups and downs, the next two always do (except for 5edo and 7edo). The last may or may not. &lt;br /&gt;
The first two categories never use ups and downs, the next two always do (except for 5edo and 7edo). The sweet EDOs may or may not.&lt;br /&gt;
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To summarize an EDO, a scale fragment from C to D is shown, including C# and Db. The C-C# interval is the augmented unison, and if they are not adjacent, ups and downs are required.The C-Db interval is the minor 2nd&lt;br /&gt;
To summarize an EDO, a scale fragment from C to D is shown, including C# and Db. The C-C# interval is the augmented unison, and if they are not adjacent, ups and downs are required.The C-Db interval is the minor 2nd&lt;br /&gt;
The C-D interval is the major 2nd (P2 for perfect EDOs, m2 for fourthward EDOs).&lt;br /&gt;
The C-D interval is the major 2nd (P2 for perfect EDOs, m2 for fourthward EDOs).&lt;br /&gt;
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F# - C# - G# - D# - A# - E# - B# - F - C - G - D - A - E - B - Fb - Cb - Gb - Db - Ab - Eb - Bb - Fbb etc.&lt;br /&gt;
F# - C# - G# - D# - A# - E# - B# - F - C - G - D - A - E - B - Fb - Cb - Gb - Db - Ab - Eb - Bb - Fbb etc.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;9edo&lt;/u&gt;:&lt;/strong&gt; C/Db C#/D &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;9edo&lt;/u&gt;:&lt;/strong&gt; C/Db C#/D&lt;br /&gt;
D E * F G A B * C D&lt;br /&gt;
D E * F G A B * C D&lt;br /&gt;
D - E - E#/Fb - F - G - A - B - B#/Cb - C - D&lt;br /&gt;
D - E - E#/Fb - F - G - A - B - B#/Cb - C - D&lt;br /&gt;
P1 - m2 - M2/m3 - M3 - P4 - P5 - m6 - M6/m7 - M7 - P8&lt;br /&gt;
P1 - m2 - M2/m3 - M3 - P4 - P5 - m6 - M6/m7 - M7 - P8&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;16edo&lt;/u&gt;:&lt;/strong&gt; C C#/Db D &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;16edo&lt;/u&gt;:&lt;/strong&gt; C C#/Db D&lt;br /&gt;
D * E * * F * G * A * B * * C * D&lt;br /&gt;
D * E * * F * G * A * B * * C * D&lt;br /&gt;
D - D#/Eb - E - E# - Fb - F F#/Gb - G - G#/Ab - A - A#/Bb - B - B# - Cb - C - C#/Db - D&lt;br /&gt;
D - D#/Eb - E - E# - Fb - F F#/Gb - G - G#/Ab - A - A#/Bb - B - B# - Cb - C - C#/Db - D&lt;br /&gt;
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Because everything is perfect, the quality can be omitted: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 - 6 - 7 - 8&lt;br /&gt;
Because everything is perfect, the quality can be omitted: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 - 6 - 7 - 8&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;14edo&lt;/u&gt;:&lt;/strong&gt; 2 keys per sharp/flat: C/C# * Db/D &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;14edo&lt;/u&gt;:&lt;/strong&gt; 2 keys per sharp/flat: C/C# * Db/D&lt;br /&gt;
D * E * F * G * A * B * C * D&lt;br /&gt;
D * E * F * G * A * B * C * D&lt;br /&gt;
D - D^/Ev - E - E/ Fv - F - F^/Gv - G - G^/Av - A - A^/Bv - B - B^/Cv - C - C^/Dv - D&lt;br /&gt;
D - D^/Ev - E - E/ Fv - F - F^/Gv - G - G^/Av - A - A^/Bv - B - B^/Cv - C - C^/Dv - D&lt;br /&gt;
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D - D^ - D^^ - Evv - Ev - E/F - F^ - F^^ - Gvv - Gv - G - G^ - G^^ - Avv - Av - A - A^ - A^^ - Bvv - Bv - B/C - C^ - C^^ - Dvv - Dv - D&lt;br /&gt;
D - D^ - D^^ - Evv - Ev - E/F - F^ - F^^ - Gvv - Gv - G - G^ - G^^ - Avv - Av - A - A^ - A^^ - Bvv - Bv - B/C - C^ - C^^ - Dvv - Dv - D&lt;br /&gt;
P1/m2 - ^m2 - ^^m2 - vvM2 - vM2 - M2/m3 - ^m3 - ^^m3 - vvM3 - vM3 - M3/P4 - ^P4 - ^^P4 - vvP5 - vP5 - P5/m6 - ^m6 - ^^m6 - vvM6 - vM6 - M6/m7 - ^m7 - ^^m7 - vvM7 - vM7 - P8&lt;br /&gt;
P1/m2 - ^m2 - ^^m2 - vvM2 - vM2 - M2/m3 - ^m3 - ^^m3 - vvM3 - vM3 - M3/P4 - ^P4 - ^^P4 - vvP5 - vP5 - P5/m6 - ^m6 - ^^m6 - vvM6 - vM6 - M6/m7 - ^m7 - ^^m7 - vvM7 - vM7 - P8&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;u&gt;&lt;strong&gt;5edo&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;strong&gt;:&lt;/strong&gt; zero keys per sharp/flat: C/C# Db/D&lt;br /&gt;
D E G A C D&lt;br /&gt;
1 - s3 - 4d - 5d - s7 - 8d&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;u&gt;&lt;strong&gt;10edo&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;strong&gt;:&lt;/strong&gt; zero keys per sharp/flat: C/C# * Db/D&lt;br /&gt;
D * E * G * A * C * D&lt;br /&gt;
D - D^/Ev - E - E^/Gv - G - G^/Av - A - A^/Cv - C - C^/Dv - D&lt;br /&gt;
1 - ^1/vs3 - s3 - ^s3/v4d - 4d - ^4d/v5d - 5d - ^5d/vs7 - s7 - ^s7/v8d - 8d&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;u&gt;&lt;strong&gt;15edo&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;strong&gt;:&lt;/strong&gt; zero keys per sharp/flat: C/C# * * Db/D&lt;br /&gt;
D * * E * * G * * A * * C * * D&lt;br /&gt;
D - D^ - Ev - E - E^ - Gv - G - G^ - Av - A - A^ - Cv - C - C^ - Dv - D&lt;br /&gt;
1 - ^1 - vs3 - s3 - ^s3 - v4d - 4d - ^4d - v5d - 5d - ^5d - vs7 - s7 - ^s7 - v8d - 8d&lt;br /&gt;
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All sweet EDOs use the usual chain of fifths: m2 - m6 - m3 - m7 - P4 - P1 - P5 - M2 - M6 - M3 - M7 etc.&lt;br /&gt;
All sweet EDOs use the usual chain of fifths: m2 - m6 - m3 - m7 - P4 - P1 - P5 - M2 - M6 - M3 - M7 etc.&lt;br /&gt;