Kite's ups and downs notation: Difference between revisions
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<h2>IMPORTED REVISION FROM WIKISPACES</h2> | <h2>IMPORTED REVISION FROM WIKISPACES</h2> | ||
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Let's start with fifth-generated tunings. For large frameworks, we'll need a long genchain: | Let's start with fifth-generated tunings. For large frameworks, we'll need a long genchain: | ||
...Fb Cb Gb Db Ab Eb Bb F C G D A E B F# C# G# D# A# E# B# ... | ...Fb Cb Gb Db Ab Eb Bb F C G D A E B F# C# G# D# A# E# B# ... | ||
Fifth-generated rank-2 tunings can be written without ups and downs in any EDO on the side of the 4\7 kite: | Fifth-generated rank-2 tunings can be written without ups and downs in any EDO on the side of the 4\7 kite: | ||
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To extend ups and downs to rank-2 tunings, the up symbol is assigned not only a **keyspan** (always +1) but also a **genspan**, which indicates how many steps forward or backwards along the generator chain, or **genchain**, one must travel to find the interval. | To extend ups and downs to rank-2 tunings, the up symbol is assigned not only a **keyspan** (always +1) but also a **genspan**, which indicates how many steps forward or backwards along the generator chain, or **genchain**, one must travel to find the interval. | ||
For example, in the 22-tone framework, up has a genspan of -5, corresponding to a pythagorean minor 2nd of 256/243. Thus C^ is exactly equivalent to Db, because C^ = C + m2 = Db. C^^ is C^ + m2, exactly equivalent to Db^. However, C^^ is not equivalent to Dvv, even though they occuy the same key on the keyboard, just as C# may not equal Db in 12-tone. Here's the 22-tone genchain: | For example, in the 22-tone framework, up has a genspan of -5, corresponding to a pythagorean minor 2nd of 256/243. Thus C^ is exactly equivalent to Db, because C^ = C + m2 = Db. C^^ is C^ + m2, exactly equivalent to Db^. However, C^^ is not equivalent to Dvv, even though they occuy the same key on the keyboard, just as C# may not equal Db in 12-tone. | ||
The usual genchain suffices to name each note, but the note names will often run out of order. For example, in 22-tone, we might have C Db B# C# D. So ups and downs are needed to allow alternate names for each note. It becomes C C^ C#v C# D, or equivalently C Db Dvv Dv D. The B# might instead be tuned Ebb, giving us C Db Ebb C# D. This could be written either C Db Db^ Dv D or C C^ C^^ C# D. | |||
Here's the 22-tone genchain: | |||
Fb = Eb^ = D^^ | Fb = Eb^ = D^^ | ||
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|| || || Gb || F^ || E^^ || | || || || Gb || F^ || E^^ || | ||
|| || || Db || C^ || B^^ || | || || || Db || C^ || B^^ || | ||
|| || || Ab || G^ || | || || || Ab || G^ || F#^^ || | ||
|| || | || || Fbv || Eb || D^ || C#^^ || | ||
|| || | || || Cbv || Bb || A^ || G#^^ || | ||
|| || | || || Gbv || F || E^ || A#^^ || | ||
|| || | || || Dbv || C || B^ || E#^^ || | ||
|| || | || || Abv || G || F#^ || B#^^ || | ||
|| | || Fbvv || Ebv || D || C#^ || || | ||
|| | || Cbvv || Bbv || A || G#^ || || | ||
|| | || Gbvv || Fv || E || D#^ || || | ||
|| | || Dbvv || Cv || B || A#^ || || | ||
|| | || Abvv || Gv || F# || E#^ || || | ||
|| | || Ebvv || Dv || C# || B#^ || || | ||
|| | || Bbvv || Av || G# || || || | ||
|| | || Fvv || Ev || D# || || || | ||
|| | || Cvv || Bv || A# || || || | ||
|| | || Gvv || F#v || E# || || || | ||
|| | || Dvv || C#v || B# || || || | ||
|| | || Avv || G#v || Fx || || || | ||
|| | || Evv || D#v || Cx || || || | ||
|| | || Bvv || A#v || Gx || || || | ||
|| || || | || F#vv || E#v || Dx || || || | ||
|| C#vv || B#v || Ax || || || | |||
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fourthwards EDOs aka Mavila EDOs, with a fifth less than 686¢<br /> | fourthwards EDOs aka Mavila EDOs, with a fifth less than 686¢<br /> | ||
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This is in addition to the trivial EDOs, 1, 2, 3, 4 and 6, which can be notated with standard notation as a subset of 12-EDO. The fifth is defined as the nearest approximation to 3/2. There is a little leeway to this in certain EDOs like 18 which have two possible fifths with nearly equal accuracy.<br /> | This is in addition to the trivial EDOs, 1, 2, 3, 4 and 6, which can be notated with standard notation as a subset of 12-EDO. The fifth is defined as the nearest approximation to 3/2. There is a little leeway to this in certain EDOs like 18 which have two possible fifths with nearly equal accuracy.<br /> | ||
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Let's start with fifth-generated tunings. For large frameworks, we'll need a long genchain:<br /> | Let's start with fifth-generated tunings. For large frameworks, we'll need a long genchain:<br /> | ||
...Fb Cb Gb Db Ab Eb Bb F C G D A E B F# C# G# D# A# E# B# ...<br /> | ...Fb Cb Gb Db Ab Eb Bb F C G D A E B F# C# G# D# A# E# B# ...<br /> | ||
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Fifth-generated rank-2 tunings can be written without ups and downs in any EDO on the side of the 4\7 kite:<br /> | Fifth-generated rank-2 tunings can be written without ups and downs in any EDO on the side of the 4\7 kite:<br /> | ||
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To extend ups and downs to rank-2 tunings, the up symbol is assigned not only a <strong>keyspan</strong> (always +1) but also a <strong>genspan</strong>, which indicates how many steps forward or backwards along the generator chain, or <strong>genchain</strong>, one must travel to find the interval. <br /> | To extend ups and downs to rank-2 tunings, the up symbol is assigned not only a <strong>keyspan</strong> (always +1) but also a <strong>genspan</strong>, which indicates how many steps forward or backwards along the generator chain, or <strong>genchain</strong>, one must travel to find the interval. <br /> | ||
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For example, in the 22-tone framework, up has a genspan of -5, corresponding to a pythagorean minor 2nd of 256/243. Thus C^ is exactly equivalent to Db, because C^ = C + m2 = Db. C^^ is C^ + m2, exactly equivalent to Db^. However, C^^ is not equivalent to Dvv, even though they occuy the same key on the keyboard, just as C# may not equal Db in 12-tone. Here's the 22-tone genchain:<br /> | For example, in the 22-tone framework, up has a genspan of -5, corresponding to a pythagorean minor 2nd of 256/243. Thus C^ is exactly equivalent to Db, because C^ = C + m2 = Db. C^^ is C^ + m2, exactly equivalent to Db^. However, C^^ is not equivalent to Dvv, even though they occuy the same key on the keyboard, just as C# may not equal Db in 12-tone. <br /> | ||
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The usual genchain suffices to name each note, but the note names will often run out of order. For example, in 22-tone, we might have C Db B# C# D. So ups and downs are needed to allow alternate names for each note. It becomes C C^ C#v C# D, or equivalently C Db Dvv Dv D. The B# might instead be tuned Ebb, giving us C Db Ebb C# D. This could be written either C Db Db^ Dv D or C C^ C^^ C# D.<br /> | |||
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Here's the 22-tone genchain:<br /> | |||
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Fb = Eb^ = D^^<br /> | Fb = Eb^ = D^^<br /> | ||
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<td>G^<br /> | <td>G^<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td><br /> | <td>F#^^<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
</tr> | </tr> | ||
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<td><br /> | <td><br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td><br /> | <td>Fbv<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>Eb<br /> | <td>Eb<br /> | ||
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<td>D^<br /> | <td>D^<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td><br /> | <td>C#^^<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
</tr> | </tr> | ||
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<td><br /> | <td><br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td><br /> | <td>Cbv<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>Bb<br /> | <td>Bb<br /> | ||
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<td>A^<br /> | <td>A^<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td><br /> | <td>G#^^<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
</tr> | </tr> | ||
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<td><br /> | <td><br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td><br /> | <td>Gbv<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>F<br /> | <td>F<br /> | ||
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<td>E^<br /> | <td>E^<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td><br /> | <td>A#^^<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
</tr> | </tr> | ||
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<td><br /> | <td><br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td><br /> | <td>Dbv<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>C<br /> | <td>C<br /> | ||
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<td>B^<br /> | <td>B^<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td><br /> | <td>E#^^<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
</tr> | </tr> | ||
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<td><br /> | <td><br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td><br /> | <td>Abv<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>G<br /> | <td>G<br /> | ||
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<td>F#^<br /> | <td>F#^<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td><br /> | <td>B#^^<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
</tr> | </tr> | ||
<tr> | <tr> | ||
<td><br /> | <td>Fbvv<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td><br /> | <td>Ebv<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>D<br /> | <td>D<br /> | ||
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</tr> | </tr> | ||
<tr> | <tr> | ||
<td><br /> | <td>Cbvv<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td><br /> | <td>Bbv<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>A<br /> | <td>A<br /> | ||
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</tr> | </tr> | ||
<tr> | <tr> | ||
<td><br /> | <td>Gbvv<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td><br /> | <td>Fv<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>E<br /> | <td>E<br /> | ||
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</tr> | </tr> | ||
<tr> | <tr> | ||
<td><br /> | <td>Dbvv<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td><br /> | <td>Cv<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>B<br /> | <td>B<br /> | ||
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</tr> | </tr> | ||
<tr> | <tr> | ||
<td><br /> | <td>Abvv<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td><br /> | <td>Gv<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>F#<br /> | <td>F#<br /> | ||
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</tr> | </tr> | ||
<tr> | <tr> | ||
<td><br /> | <td>Ebvv<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td><br /> | <td>Dv<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>C#<br /> | <td>C#<br /> | ||
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</tr> | </tr> | ||
<tr> | <tr> | ||
<td><br /> | <td>Bbvv<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td><br /> | <td>Av<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>G#<br /> | <td>G#<br /> | ||
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</tr> | </tr> | ||
<tr> | <tr> | ||
<td><br /> | <td>Fvv<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td><br /> | <td>Ev<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>D#<br /> | <td>D#<br /> | ||
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</tr> | </tr> | ||
<tr> | <tr> | ||
<td><br /> | <td>Cvv<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td><br /> | <td>Bv<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>A#<br /> | <td>A#<br /> | ||
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</tr> | </tr> | ||
<tr> | <tr> | ||
<td><br /> | <td>Gvv<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td><br /> | <td>F#v<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>E#<br /> | <td>E#<br /> | ||
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</tr> | </tr> | ||
<tr> | <tr> | ||
<td><br /> | <td>Dvv<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td><br /> | <td>C#v<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>B#<br /> | <td>B#<br /> | ||
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</tr> | </tr> | ||
<tr> | <tr> | ||
<td><br /> | <td>Avv<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td><br /> | <td>G#v<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>Fx<br /> | <td>Fx<br /> | ||
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</tr> | </tr> | ||
<tr> | <tr> | ||
<td><br /> | <td>Evv<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td><br /> | <td>D#v<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>Cx<br /> | <td>Cx<br /> | ||
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</tr> | </tr> | ||
<tr> | <tr> | ||
<td><br /> | <td>Bvv<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td><br /> | <td>A#v<br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td>Gx<br /> | <td>Gx<br /> | ||
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</tr> | </tr> | ||
<tr> | <tr> | ||
<td>F#vv<br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td>E#v<br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td>Dx<br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td><br /> | <td><br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td><br /> | <td><br /> | ||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td> | </tr> | ||
<tr> | |||
<td>C#vv<br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td>B#v<br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td>Ax<br /> | |||
</td> | </td> | ||
<td><br /> | <td><br /> |