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==Karadeniz temperament==  
==Karadeniz temperament==  
K. E. Karadeniz proposed a 41 note MOS with generator 31/106. giving a "hemigarabaldi" type of tuning, with an 11/9 neutral third generator. It's more plausible as an 11-limit system than 13-limit; the 13-limit wedgie is:
K. E. Karadeniz proposed a 41 note MOS with generator 31/106, giving a "hemigaribaldi" type of tuning, with an 11/9 neutral third generator. It's more plausible as an 11-limit system than 13-limit; the 13-limit wedgie is:


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[[POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: 350.994
[[POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: 350.994


Map: [&lt;1 1 7 11 2|, &lt;0 2 -16 -25 5|]
Map: [&lt;1 1 7 11 2|, &lt;0 2 -16 -28 5|]
EDOs: 41, 106, 147, 253</pre></div>
EDOs: 41, 106, 147, 253</pre></div>
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==Yarman temperament== 
[[Ozan Yarman]] has proposed defining the tuning of Turkish maqam <span class="wiki_link_ext">music</span> using a [[MOSScales|MOS]] of 79 or 80 notes out of 159. This means a generator of 2/159, which suggests the 19-limit mapping:

[<1 2 3 2 4 4 4 5|, <0 -33 -54 64 -43 -24 7 -60|]

or

[<1 2 3 4 4 4 4 5|, <0 -33 -54 -95 -43 -24 7 -60|]

The first mapping may be called 79&159 in terms of [[Patent val|patent vals]], and the second 80&159. In any event both mappings can be used inconsistently. A Pythagorean tuning, ie one with pure fifths, is also possible.

==Karadeniz temperament== 
K. E. Karadeniz proposed a 41 note MOS with generator 31/106, giving a "hemigaribaldi" type of tuning, with an 11/9 neutral third generator. It's more plausible as an 11-limit system than 13-limit; the 13-limit wedgie is:

<<2 -16 -28 5 40 -30 -50 1 56 -20 67 152 111 216 120||

which in the 11-limit becomes <<2 -16 -28 5 -30 -50 1 -20 67 111||. It tempers out 3125/3087, 4000/3969, 243/242, 5120/5103, 225/224, and 3025/3024, and can also be called 41&106. Aside from 31/106, 43/147 or 74/253 can be recommended as generators.

Commas: 225/224, 243/242, 3125/3087

[[POTE tuning|POTE generator]]: 350.994

Map: [<1 1 7 11 2|, <0 2 -16 -28 5|]
EDOs: 41, 106, 147, 253

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 <a class="wiki_link" href="/Ozan%20Yarman">Ozan Yarman</a> has proposed defining the tuning of Turkish maqam <span class="wiki_link_ext">music</span> using a <a class="wiki_link" href="/MOSScales">MOS</a> of 79 or 80 notes out of 159. This means a generator of 2/159, which suggests the 19-limit mapping:<br />
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[&lt;1 2 3 2 4 4 4 5|, &lt;0 -33 -54 64 -43 -24 7 -60|]<br />
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[&lt;1 2 3 4 4 4 4 5|, &lt;0 -33 -54 -95 -43 -24 7 -60|]<br />
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The first mapping may be called 79&amp;159 in terms of <a class="wiki_link" href="/Patent%20val">patent vals</a>, and the second 80&amp;159. In any event both mappings can be used inconsistently. A Pythagorean tuning, ie one with pure fifths, is also possible.<br />
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 K. E. Karadeniz proposed a 41 note MOS with generator 31/106, giving a &quot;hemigaribaldi&quot; type of tuning, with an 11/9 neutral third generator. It's more plausible as an 11-limit system than 13-limit; the 13-limit wedgie is:<br />
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&lt;&lt;2 -16 -28 5 40 -30 -50 1 56 -20 67 152 111 216 120||<br />
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which in the 11-limit becomes &lt;&lt;2 -16 -28 5 -30 -50 1 -20 67 111||. It tempers out 3125/3087, 4000/3969, 243/242, 5120/5103, 225/224, and 3025/3024, and can also be called 41&amp;106. Aside from 31/106, 43/147 or 74/253 can be recommended as generators.<br />
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Commas: 225/224, 243/242, 3125/3087<br />
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<a class="wiki_link" href="/POTE%20tuning">POTE generator</a>: 350.994<br />
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Map: [&lt;1 1 7 11 2|, &lt;0 2 -16 -28 5|]<br />
EDOs: 41, 106, 147, 253</body></html>