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==First system J.J.Weiss==  
==First system J.J.Weiss==  
Inequal subdivision of the [[2187_2048|apotome (2187/2048, 113.7 cents)]] into 7 parts (8 mandals/orabs).
Inequal subdivision of the [[2187_2048|apotome (2187/2048, 113.7 cents)]] into 7 parts (8 mandals/orabs), in the following manner:
Rough subdivision into one [[81_80|syntonic comma (81/80, 21.5 cents)]], one [[25_24|Zarlino semitone (25/24, 70.7 cents)]] and another syntonic comma. Finer subdivision of the 25/24.
* Subdivision into one [[81_80|syntonic comma (81/80, 21.5 cents)]], one [[25_24|Zarlinian semitone (25/24, 70.7 cents)]] and another syntonic comma.
(luthier Ejder Gulec)
* Further subdivision of 25/24 into 65/64 (26 cents), 144/143 (12 cents) and 55/54 (32 cents).
* 65/64 and 55/54 are each split into two.


Positioning of the mandals at: 22, 13, 13, 12, 16,|16, 22 cents.
This gives the following interval positions of the mandals: 22, 13, 13, 12, 16, 16, 22 cents.
Ratios: XXX
Luthier: Ejder Gulec


Interval Table (cents):
Interval Table (cents):
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Approximated just intervals:
XXX under construction
XXX under construction
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  Inequal subdivision of the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/2187_2048"&gt;apotome (2187/2048, 113.7 cents)&lt;/a&gt; into 7 parts (8 mandals/orabs).&lt;br /&gt;
  Inequal subdivision of the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/2187_2048"&gt;apotome (2187/2048, 113.7 cents)&lt;/a&gt; into 7 parts (8 mandals/orabs), in the following manner:&lt;br /&gt;
Rough subdivision into one &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/81_80"&gt;syntonic comma (81/80, 21.5 cents)&lt;/a&gt;, one &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/25_24"&gt;Zarlino semitone (25/24, 70.7 cents)&lt;/a&gt; and another syntonic comma. Finer subdivision of the 25/24.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Subdivision into one &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/81_80"&gt;syntonic comma (81/80, 21.5 cents)&lt;/a&gt;, one &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/25_24"&gt;Zarlinian semitone (25/24, 70.7 cents)&lt;/a&gt; and another syntonic comma.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Further subdivision of 25/24 into 65/64 (26 cents), 144/143 (12 cents) and 55/54 (32 cents).&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;65/64 and 55/54 are each split into two.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
(luthier Ejder Gulec)&lt;br /&gt;
This gives the following interval positions of the mandals: 22, 13, 13, 12, 16, 16, 22 cents.&lt;br /&gt;
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Luthier: Ejder Gulec&lt;br /&gt;
Positioning of the mandals at: 22, 13, 13, 12, 16,|16, 22 cents.&lt;br /&gt;
Ratios: XXX&lt;br /&gt;
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Interval Table (cents):&lt;br /&gt;
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<span style="font-size: 150%;">**Tuning systems for the qanun**</span>
Julien Jalaleddine Weiss/Jacques Dudon
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=Explanation= 
The tuning tables on this page are specifically designed for the tuning system of the [[qanun]] (see the link for details on the system of tuning and playing a qanun with "mandals/orabs").

The whole table covers roughly the range of a fourth (the range where the ajnas - maqam tetrachords - reside).
Each row corresponds to one string of the qanun. In the first column stands the basic (relative) tuning of a string while the following columns indicate possible intervals that can be reached via lowering the mandals/orabs.

The first table contains the cent values and the second the approximated just intervals, sometimes differing between ascending and descending ratios.

Any given configuration of mandal/orab positions, resulting in a certain set of pitches that can be played at a given time
(base for a maqam tetrachord) is represented by a choice of one cell in each row.

=Older systems= 
==First system J.J.Weiss== 
Inequal subdivision of the [[2187_2048|apotome (2187/2048, 113.7 cents)]] into 7 parts (8 mandals/orabs), in the following manner:
* Subdivision into one [[81_80|syntonic comma (81/80, 21.5 cents)]], one [[25_24|Zarlinian semitone (25/24, 70.7 cents)]] and another syntonic comma.
* Further subdivision of 25/24 into 65/64 (26 cents), 144/143 (12 cents) and 55/54 (32 cents).
* 65/64 and 55/54 are each split into two.

This gives the following interval positions of the mandals: 22, 13, 13, 12, 16, 16, 22 cents.
Luthier: Ejder Gulec

Interval Table (cents):
|| 0 || 22 || 35 || 48 || 60 || 76 || 92 || 114 ||
|| 90 || 112 || 125 || 138 || 150 || 166 || 182 || 204 ||
|| 294 || 316 || 330 || 342 || 354 || 370 || 386 || 408 ||
|| 384 || 406 || 420 || 432 || 444 || 460 || 476 || 498 ||
|| 498 || 520 || 533 || 546 || 558 || 574 || 590 || 612 ||

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XXX under construction
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XXX more coming soon

==Older system, variant== 
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=Newer systems= 

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Julien Jalaleddine Weiss/Jacques Dudon<br />
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 The tuning tables on this page are specifically designed for the tuning system of the <a class="wiki_link" href="/qanun">qanun</a> (see the link for details on the system of tuning and playing a qanun with &quot;mandals/orabs&quot;).<br />
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The whole table covers roughly the range of a fourth (the range where the ajnas - maqam tetrachords - reside).<br />
Each row corresponds to one string of the qanun. In the first column stands the basic (relative) tuning of a string while the following columns indicate possible intervals that can be reached via lowering the mandals/orabs.<br />
<br />
The first table contains the cent values and the second the approximated just intervals, sometimes differing between ascending and descending ratios.<br />
<br />
Any given configuration of mandal/orab positions, resulting in a certain set of pitches that can be played at a given time<br />
(base for a maqam tetrachord) is represented by a choice of one cell in each row.<br />
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<!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:2:&lt;h1&gt; --><h1 id="toc1"><a name="Older systems"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:2 -->Older systems</h1>
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 Inequal subdivision of the <a class="wiki_link" href="/2187_2048">apotome (2187/2048, 113.7 cents)</a> into 7 parts (8 mandals/orabs), in the following manner:<br />
<ul><li>Subdivision into one <a class="wiki_link" href="/81_80">syntonic comma (81/80, 21.5 cents)</a>, one <a class="wiki_link" href="/25_24">Zarlinian semitone (25/24, 70.7 cents)</a> and another syntonic comma.</li><li>Further subdivision of 25/24 into 65/64 (26 cents), 144/143 (12 cents) and 55/54 (32 cents).</li><li>65/64 and 55/54 are each split into two.</li></ul><br />
This gives the following interval positions of the mandals: 22, 13, 13, 12, 16, 16, 22 cents.<br />
Luthier: Ejder Gulec<br />
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Interval Table (cents):<br />


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        <td>22<br />
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        <td>35<br />
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        <td>76<br />
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        <td>112<br />
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        <td>138<br />
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        <td>166<br />
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        <td>204<br />
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        <td>294<br />
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        <td>316<br />
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        <td>330<br />
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        <td>342<br />
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        <td>574<br />
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        <td>590<br />
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