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Luthier: Ejder Gulec.
Luthier: Ejder Gulec.
Subdivision of 25/24 into 65/64 (26 cents), 144/143 (12 cents) and 55/54 (32 cents).
Subdivision of 25/24 into 65/64 (26 cents), 144/143 (12 cents) and 55/54 (32 cents).
65/64 and 55/54 are each split into two.
65/64 and 55/54 are each split into two roughly equal parts.


This gives the following interval positions of the mandals (approximations): 22, 13, 13, 12, 16, 16, 22 cents.
This gives the following rational intervals between the mandals:
81/80, 245/243, 3159/3136, 144/143, 121/120, 100/99, 81/80


Intervals ratios, ascending from C:
In cents (approximations):
XXX
22, 13, 13, 12, 16, 16, 22
 
Rational intervals each string can be detuned:
81/80, 49/48, 1053/1024, 729/704, 2673/2560, 135/128, 2187/2048
 
Intervals ratios, ascending from C (cent values in parentheses):
* On the D string (from Db to D):
&gt; 256/243 (90), 16/15 (112), 784/729 (126), 13/12 (138), 12/11 (150), 11/10 (166), 10/9 (182), 9/8 (204)
* On the E string (from Eb to E):
&gt; 32/27 (294), 6/5 (316), 98/81 (330), 39/32 (342), 27/22 (354),8 9/80 (370), 5/4 (386), 81/64 (408)


Interval ratios, descending from F:
Interval ratios, descending from F:
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This gives 15 potential different pitches per base note, in accordance with the real playing capabilities of the qanun. Seven base notes (C, D, E, F, G, A, B or Do, Re, Mi, Fa, Sol, La, Si) lead to a notation system of 7*15=105 pitches. See the following document, which also gives all the pitches in one octave (in ratios and cents) that can be played by system 1 and 2.&lt;br /&gt;
This gives 15 potential different pitches per base note, in accordance with the real playing capabilities of the qanun. Seven base notes (C, D, E, F, G, A, B or Do, Re, Mi, Fa, Sol, La, Si) lead to a notation system of 7*15=105 pitches. See the following document, which also gives all the pitches in one octave (in ratios and cents) that can be played by system 1 and 2.&lt;br /&gt;
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Subdivision of 25/24 into 65/64 (26 cents), 144/143 (12 cents) and 55/54 (32 cents).&lt;br /&gt;
Subdivision of 25/24 into 65/64 (26 cents), 144/143 (12 cents) and 55/54 (32 cents).&lt;br /&gt;
65/64 and 55/54 are each split into two.&lt;br /&gt;
65/64 and 55/54 are each split into two roughly equal parts.&lt;br /&gt;
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This gives the following rational intervals between the mandals:&lt;br /&gt;
81/80, 245/243, 3159/3136, 144/143, 121/120, 100/99, 81/80&lt;br /&gt;
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This gives the following interval positions of the mandals (approximations): 22, 13, 13, 12, 16, 16, 22 cents.&lt;br /&gt;
In cents (approximations): &lt;br /&gt;
22, 13, 13, 12, 16, 16, 22&lt;br /&gt;
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Intervals ratios, ascending from C:&lt;br /&gt;
Rational intervals each string can be detuned:&lt;br /&gt;
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81/80, 49/48, 1053/1024, 729/704, 2673/2560, 135/128, 2187/2048&lt;br /&gt;
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Intervals ratios, ascending from C (cent values in parentheses):&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;On the D string (from Db to D):&lt;br /&gt;
256/243 (90), 16/15 (112), 784/729 (126), 13/12 (138), 12/11 (150), 11/10 (166), 10/9 (182), 9/8 (204)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;On the E string (from Eb to E):&lt;br /&gt;
32/27 (294), 6/5 (316), 98/81 (330), 39/32 (342), 27/22 (354),8 9/80 (370), 5/4 (386), 81/64 (408)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Interval ratios, descending from F:&lt;br /&gt;
Interval ratios, descending from F:&lt;br /&gt;
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