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NOTE: I haven't completed th list of scales on this page. Consider that part under construction. You can check th intro &amp; th few scales I have in th meantime, tho!
NOTE: I haven't completed the list of scales on this page. Consider that part under construction. You can check the intro &amp; the few scales I have in the meantime, though!


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A few years ago, inspired by a fantastic scale revealed by Jacky Ligon on th nonoctave forum, I (Andrew Heathwaite) embarked on a quest to discover new scales that meet these three criteria:
A few years ago, inspired by a fantastic scale revealed by Jacky Ligon on the nonoctave forum, I (Andrew Heathwaite) embarked on a quest to discover new scales that meet these three criteria:


# [[Superparticular]] - meaning that th steps of th scale represent th intervals between adjacent notes in th harmonic series. You can identify these intervals easily, because they appear in th form //n/n-1.// Examples: 5:4, 7:6, 13:12, 41:40, etc.
# [[Superparticular]] - meaning that the steps of the scale represent the intervals between adjacent notes in the harmonic series. You can identify these intervals easily, because they appear in the form //n/n-1.// Examples: 5:4, 7:6, 13:12, 41:40, etc.
# [[Nonoctave]] - meaning that th scale repeats at an interval other than an octave. In fact, for this project I wanted near-octaves, intervals like 1193 cents, 1221 cents, &amp; so on. These intervals can sound very harsh, but they can also sound incredibly rich &amp; dynamic. Timbre plays an important role here in making these near-octave intervals function as octaves.
# [[Nonoctave]] - meaning that the scale repeats at an interval other than an octave. In fact, for this project I wanted near-octaves, intervals like 1193 cents, 1221 cents, &amp; so on. These intervals can sound very harsh, but they can also sound incredibly rich &amp; dynamic. Timbre plays an important role here in making these near-octave intervals function as octaves.
# [[MOSScales|Moment of Symmetry]] - meaning that th scale contain exactly two step sizes, spaced out as evenly as possible w/i th scale. Normally, you build MOS scales by continuously adding notes a given interval, called th generator, away from one another in one long chain until th resulting scale has only two step sizes. Pythagorean scales use 3/2 (th perfect fifth) as th generator. In 12edo, we can identify th standard pentatonic scale &amp; th various diatonic scales as MOS scales because you can build them using a chain of fifths.
# [[MOSScales|Moment of Symmetry]] - meaning that the scale contains exactly two step sizes, spaced out as evenly as possible within the scale. Normally, you build MOS scales by continuously adding notes a given interval, called the generator, away from one another in one long chain until the resulting scale has only two step sizes. Pythagorean scales use 3/2 (the perfect fifth) as the generator. In 12edo, we can identify the standard pentatonic scale &amp; the various diatonic scales as MOS scales because you can build them using a chain of fifths.


Jacky Ligon's scale meets these three criteria. I will use it as an example:
Jacky Ligon's scale meets these three criteria. I will use it as an example:
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//Steps: 9:8, 12:11, 9:8, 12:11, 9:8, 12:11, 12:11//
//Steps: 9:8, 12:11, 9:8, 12:11, 9:8, 12:11, 12:11//


# It fits as Superparticular because its intervals, 9/8 &amp; 12/11, both fit th form //n/n-1//.
# It is superparticular because its intervals, 9/8 &amp; 12/11, both fit the form //n/n-1//.
# It fits as nonoctave (more accurately, near-octave) because it repeats at 1214.2 cents.
# It is nonoctave (more accurately, near-octave) because it repeats at 1214.2 cents.
# It fits as MOS because it contains exactly two step sizes, spaced out as evenly as possible w/i th scale.
# It is MOS because it contains exactly two step sizes, spaced out as evenly as possible within the scale.


Inspired by th peculiar musical qualities of this scale, I set about looking for others, &amp; found quite a few. I gave some of them quirky nicknames. I have since then embarked on a search for all scales of this type w/i these (admittedly arbitrary) limits:
Inspired by the peculiar musical qualities of this scale, I set about looking for others, &amp; found quite a few. I gave some of them quirky nicknames. I have since then embarked on a search for all scales of this type within these (admittedly arbitrary) limits:


# Superparticular Limit: smallest interval: 41/40 = 42.8 cents.
# Superparticular Limit: smallest interval: 41/40 = 42.8 cents.
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# Moment of Symmetry Limit: greatest number of notes in a scale = 10.
# Moment of Symmetry Limit: greatest number of notes in a scale = 10.


Even w/ these limits in place, this produces a multitude of fascinating scales for our enjoyment &amp; fascination. I invite you to play &amp; share yr results!
Even with these limits in place, this produces a multitude of fascinating scales for our enjoyment &amp; fascination. I invite you to play &amp; share your results!


==Pentatonic (5-note) Scales:==  
==Pentatonic (5-note) Scales:==  
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SNM320614 : //6:5, 14:13, 6:5, 14:13, 6:5 = 1203.5 cents//
SNM320614 : //6:5, 14:13, 6:5, 14:13, 6:5 = 1203.5 cents//
SNM320615 : //6:5, 15:14, 6:5, 15:14, 6:5 = 1185.8 cents//
SNM320615 : //6:5, 15:14, 6:5, 15:14, 6:5 = 1185.8 cents//
==Heptatonic (7-note) Scales:==  
==Heptatonic (7-note) Scales:==  
===MOS 2+5 : sLsssLs===  
===MOS 2+5 : sLsssLs===  
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NOTE: I haven't completed th list of scales on this page. Consider that part under construction. You can check th intro &amp;amp; th few scales I have in th meantime, tho!&lt;br /&gt;
NOTE: I haven't completed the list of scales on this page. Consider that part under construction. You can check the intro &amp;amp; the few scales I have in the meantime, though!&lt;br /&gt;
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A few years ago, inspired by a fantastic scale revealed by Jacky Ligon on th nonoctave forum, I (Andrew Heathwaite) embarked on a quest to discover new scales that meet these three criteria:&lt;br /&gt;
A few years ago, inspired by a fantastic scale revealed by Jacky Ligon on the nonoctave forum, I (Andrew Heathwaite) embarked on a quest to discover new scales that meet these three criteria:&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Superparticular"&gt;Superparticular&lt;/a&gt; - meaning that th steps of th scale represent th intervals between adjacent notes in th harmonic series. You can identify these intervals easily, because they appear in th form &lt;em&gt;n/n-1.&lt;/em&gt; Examples: 5:4, 7:6, 13:12, 41:40, etc.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Nonoctave"&gt;Nonoctave&lt;/a&gt; - meaning that th scale repeats at an interval other than an octave. In fact, for this project I wanted near-octaves, intervals like 1193 cents, 1221 cents, &amp;amp; so on. These intervals can sound very harsh, but they can also sound incredibly rich &amp;amp; dynamic. Timbre plays an important role here in making these near-octave intervals function as octaves.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/MOSScales"&gt;Moment of Symmetry&lt;/a&gt; - meaning that th scale contain exactly two step sizes, spaced out as evenly as possible w/i th scale. Normally, you build MOS scales by continuously adding notes a given interval, called th generator, away from one another in one long chain until th resulting scale has only two step sizes. Pythagorean scales use 3/2 (th perfect fifth) as th generator. In 12edo, we can identify th standard pentatonic scale &amp;amp; th various diatonic scales as MOS scales because you can build them using a chain of fifths.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Superparticular"&gt;Superparticular&lt;/a&gt; - meaning that the steps of the scale represent the intervals between adjacent notes in the harmonic series. You can identify these intervals easily, because they appear in the form &lt;em&gt;n/n-1.&lt;/em&gt; Examples: 5:4, 7:6, 13:12, 41:40, etc.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Nonoctave"&gt;Nonoctave&lt;/a&gt; - meaning that the scale repeats at an interval other than an octave. In fact, for this project I wanted near-octaves, intervals like 1193 cents, 1221 cents, &amp;amp; so on. These intervals can sound very harsh, but they can also sound incredibly rich &amp;amp; dynamic. Timbre plays an important role here in making these near-octave intervals function as octaves.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/MOSScales"&gt;Moment of Symmetry&lt;/a&gt; - meaning that the scale contains exactly two step sizes, spaced out as evenly as possible within the scale. Normally, you build MOS scales by continuously adding notes a given interval, called the generator, away from one another in one long chain until the resulting scale has only two step sizes. Pythagorean scales use 3/2 (the perfect fifth) as the generator. In 12edo, we can identify the standard pentatonic scale &amp;amp; the various diatonic scales as MOS scales because you can build them using a chain of fifths.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Jacky Ligon's scale meets these three criteria. I will use it as an example:&lt;br /&gt;
Jacky Ligon's scale meets these three criteria. I will use it as an example:&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;em&gt;Steps: 9:8, 12:11, 9:8, 12:11, 9:8, 12:11, 12:11&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;em&gt;Steps: 9:8, 12:11, 9:8, 12:11, 9:8, 12:11, 12:11&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;It fits as Superparticular because its intervals, 9/8 &amp;amp; 12/11, both fit th form &lt;em&gt;n/n-1&lt;/em&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;It fits as nonoctave (more accurately, near-octave) because it repeats at 1214.2 cents.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;It fits as MOS because it contains exactly two step sizes, spaced out as evenly as possible w/i th scale.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;It is superparticular because its intervals, 9/8 &amp;amp; 12/11, both fit the form &lt;em&gt;n/n-1&lt;/em&gt;.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;It is nonoctave (more accurately, near-octave) because it repeats at 1214.2 cents.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;It is MOS because it contains exactly two step sizes, spaced out as evenly as possible within the scale.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Inspired by th peculiar musical qualities of this scale, I set about looking for others, &amp;amp; found quite a few. I gave some of them quirky nicknames. I have since then embarked on a search for all scales of this type w/i these (admittedly arbitrary) limits:&lt;br /&gt;
Inspired by the peculiar musical qualities of this scale, I set about looking for others, &amp;amp; found quite a few. I gave some of them quirky nicknames. I have since then embarked on a search for all scales of this type within these (admittedly arbitrary) limits:&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;Superparticular Limit: smallest interval: 41/40 = 42.8 cents.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Nonoctave Limit: greatest deviation from octave allowed = 25 cents.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Moment of Symmetry Limit: greatest number of notes in a scale = 10.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;ol&gt;&lt;li&gt;Superparticular Limit: smallest interval: 41/40 = 42.8 cents.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Nonoctave Limit: greatest deviation from octave allowed = 25 cents.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Moment of Symmetry Limit: greatest number of notes in a scale = 10.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ol&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Even w/ these limits in place, this produces a multitude of fascinating scales for our enjoyment &amp;amp; fascination. I invite you to play &amp;amp; share yr results!&lt;br /&gt;
Even with these limits in place, this produces a multitude of fascinating scales for our enjoyment &amp;amp; fascination. I invite you to play &amp;amp; share your results!&lt;br /&gt;
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  SNM320614 : &lt;em&gt;6:5, 14:13, 6:5, 14:13, 6:5 = 1203.5 cents&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
  SNM320614 : &lt;em&gt;6:5, 14:13, 6:5, 14:13, 6:5 = 1203.5 cents&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
SNM320615 : &lt;em&gt;6:5, 15:14, 6:5, 15:14, 6:5 = 1185.8 cents&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
SNM320615 : &lt;em&gt;6:5, 15:14, 6:5, 15:14, 6:5 = 1185.8 cents&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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