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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">One of the things one can look at when analyzing a temperament is its complexity spectrum. This may be defined as the result of sorting the complexity of the intervals in the q [[odd limit]] [[tonality diamond]] between the unison and half an octave, where q is two less than the next prime after p. In the rank two case, the complexity is [[Graham complexity]], but for higher limits we can use [[Tenney-Euclidean metrics|OE complexity]], which is proportional to Graham complexity in the rank two case, but is also valid for higher limits.
<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">One of the things one can look at when analyzing a temperament is its complexity spectrum. This may be defined as the result of sorting the complexity of the intervals in the q [[odd limit]] [[tonality diamond]] between the unison and half an octave, where q is two less than the next prime after the prime limit of the temperament in question. In the rank two case, the complexity is [[Graham complexity]], but for higher limits we can use [[Tenney-Euclidean metrics|OE complexity]], which is proportional to Graham complexity in the rank two case, but is also valid for higher limits.


The different flavors of a temperament, so to speak, are shown in its spectrum. A temperament like meantone, which favors 3 over 5, and 5 over 7, has quite a different flavor than miracle, which favors 7, 11/9 and 7/5.
The different flavors of a temperament, so to speak, are shown in its spectrum. A temperament like meantone, which favors 3 over 5, and 5 over 7, has quite a different flavor than miracle, which favors 7, 11/9 and 7/5.
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Even leaving aside the somewhat greater complexity and accuracy, it just won't taste the same.</pre></div>
Even leaving aside the somewhat greater complexity and accuracy, it just won't taste the same.</pre></div>
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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;width:200%;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">&lt;html&gt;&lt;head&gt;&lt;title&gt;Spectrum of a temperament&lt;/title&gt;&lt;/head&gt;&lt;body&gt;One of the things one can look at when analyzing a temperament is its complexity spectrum. This may be defined as the result of sorting the complexity of the intervals in the q &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/odd%20limit"&gt;odd limit&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/tonality%20diamond"&gt;tonality diamond&lt;/a&gt; between the unison and half an octave, where q is two less than the next prime after p. In the rank two case, the complexity is &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Graham%20complexity"&gt;Graham complexity&lt;/a&gt;, but for higher limits we can use &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Tenney-Euclidean%20metrics"&gt;OE complexity&lt;/a&gt;, which is proportional to Graham complexity in the rank two case, but is also valid for higher limits.&lt;br /&gt;
<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;width:200%;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">&lt;html&gt;&lt;head&gt;&lt;title&gt;Spectrum of a temperament&lt;/title&gt;&lt;/head&gt;&lt;body&gt;One of the things one can look at when analyzing a temperament is its complexity spectrum. This may be defined as the result of sorting the complexity of the intervals in the q &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/odd%20limit"&gt;odd limit&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/tonality%20diamond"&gt;tonality diamond&lt;/a&gt; between the unison and half an octave, where q is two less than the next prime after the prime limit of the temperament in question. In the rank two case, the complexity is &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Graham%20complexity"&gt;Graham complexity&lt;/a&gt;, but for higher limits we can use &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Tenney-Euclidean%20metrics"&gt;OE complexity&lt;/a&gt;, which is proportional to Graham complexity in the rank two case, but is also valid for higher limits.&lt;br /&gt;
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The different flavors of a temperament, so to speak, are shown in its spectrum. A temperament like meantone, which favors 3 over 5, and 5 over 7, has quite a different flavor than miracle, which favors 7, 11/9 and 7/5.&lt;br /&gt;
The different flavors of a temperament, so to speak, are shown in its spectrum. A temperament like meantone, which favors 3 over 5, and 5 over 7, has quite a different flavor than miracle, which favors 7, 11/9 and 7/5.&lt;br /&gt;

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One of the things one can look at when analyzing a temperament is its complexity spectrum. This may be defined as the result of sorting the complexity of the intervals in the q [[odd limit]] [[tonality diamond]] between the unison and half an octave, where q is two less than the next prime after the prime limit of the temperament in question. In the rank two case, the complexity is [[Graham complexity]], but for higher limits we can use [[Tenney-Euclidean metrics|OE complexity]], which is proportional to Graham complexity in the rank two case, but is also valid for higher limits.

The different flavors of a temperament, so to speak, are shown in its spectrum. A temperament like meantone, which favors 3 over 5, and 5 over 7, has quite a different flavor than miracle, which favors 7, 11/9 and 7/5.

Here's the spectrum for 11-limit marvel:

5/4, 4/3, 7/6, 8/7, 7/5, 6/5, 9/7, 12/11, 9/8, 11/8, 11/9, 10/9, 11/10, 14/11

You can see it favors 5 over 7 and 7 over 11; for how much I could stick in the actual numerical complexities, but you can see that 9/8 and 10/9 are more complex than some 7 and 11 limit intervals just from the above.

Here's the spectrum for 13-limit [[Werckismic temperaments|history]], the temperament tempering out 364/363, 441/440 and 1001/1000 which is part of [[the Archipelago]]:

11/10, 15/13, 14/11, 4/3, 7/5, 5/4, 11/8, 18/13, 15/11, 13/12, 13/10, 6/5, 8/7, 16/15, 12/11, 13/11, 9/8, 16/13, 15/14, 10/9, 7/6, 11/9, 14/13, 9/7

Even leaving aside the somewhat greater complexity and accuracy, it just won't taste the same.

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<html><head><title>Spectrum of a temperament</title></head><body>One of the things one can look at when analyzing a temperament is its complexity spectrum. This may be defined as the result of sorting the complexity of the intervals in the q <a class="wiki_link" href="/odd%20limit">odd limit</a> <a class="wiki_link" href="/tonality%20diamond">tonality diamond</a> between the unison and half an octave, where q is two less than the next prime after the prime limit of the temperament in question. In the rank two case, the complexity is <a class="wiki_link" href="/Graham%20complexity">Graham complexity</a>, but for higher limits we can use <a class="wiki_link" href="/Tenney-Euclidean%20metrics">OE complexity</a>, which is proportional to Graham complexity in the rank two case, but is also valid for higher limits.<br />
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The different flavors of a temperament, so to speak, are shown in its spectrum. A temperament like meantone, which favors 3 over 5, and 5 over 7, has quite a different flavor than miracle, which favors 7, 11/9 and 7/5.<br />
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Here's the spectrum for 11-limit marvel:<br />
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5/4, 4/3, 7/6, 8/7, 7/5, 6/5, 9/7, 12/11, 9/8, 11/8, 11/9, 10/9, 11/10, 14/11<br />
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You can see it favors 5 over 7 and 7 over 11; for how much I could stick in the actual numerical complexities, but you can see that 9/8 and 10/9 are more complex than some 7 and 11 limit intervals just from the above.<br />
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Here's the spectrum for 13-limit <a class="wiki_link" href="/Werckismic%20temperaments">history</a>, the temperament tempering out 364/363, 441/440 and 1001/1000 which is part of <a class="wiki_link" href="/the%20Archipelago">the Archipelago</a>:<br />
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11/10, 15/13, 14/11, 4/3, 7/5, 5/4, 11/8, 18/13, 15/11, 13/12, 13/10, 6/5, 8/7, 16/15, 12/11, 13/11, 9/8, 16/13, 15/14, 10/9, 7/6, 11/9, 14/13, 9/7<br />
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Even leaving aside the somewhat greater complexity and accuracy, it just won't taste the same.</body></html>