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==Orwell==  
==Orwell==  
Main article: [[Orwell]]
So called because 19\84 (as a [[fraction of the octave]]) is a possible generator of this temperament, orwell divides the interval of a twelfth (a tempered 3/1 frequency ratio) into 7 equal steps. It's compatible with [[22edo|22]], [[31edo|31]], [[53edo|53]] and [[84edo|84]] equal, and may be described as the 22&amp;31 temperament, or &lt;&lt;7 -3 8 -21 -7 27||. It's a good system in the [[7-limit]] and naturally extends into the [[11-limit]]. [[84edo]], with the 19\84 generator, provides a good tuning for the 5, 7 and 11 limits, but it does use its second-best 11. However, the 19\84 generator is remarkably close to the 11-limit [[POTE tuning]], as the generator is only 0.0024 cents sharper, and it is a good approximation to the 7-limit POTE generator also; hence 84 may be considered the most recommendable tuning in the 7-limit. [[53edo]] might be preferred in the 5-limit because of its nearly pure fifth and in the 11-limit because of it slightly better 11, though most of its 11-limit harmony is actually worse. Aside from the semicomma and 65625/65536, 7-limit orwell tempers out 2430/2401, the nuwell comma, 1728/1715, the orwellisma, 225/224, the septimal kleisma, and 6144/6125, the porwell comma.
So called because 19\84 (as a [[fraction of the octave]]) is a possible generator of this temperament, orwell divides the interval of a twelfth (a tempered 3/1 frequency ratio) into 7 equal steps. It's compatible with [[22edo|22]], [[31edo|31]], [[53edo|53]] and [[84edo|84]] equal, and may be described as the 22&amp;31 temperament, or &lt;&lt;7 -3 8 -21 -7 27||. It's a good system in the [[7-limit]] and naturally extends into the [[11-limit]]. [[84edo]], with the 19\84 generator, provides a good tuning for the 5, 7 and 11 limits, but it does use its second-best 11. However, the 19\84 generator is remarkably close to the 11-limit [[POTE tuning]], as the generator is only 0.0024 cents sharper, and it is a good approximation to the 7-limit POTE generator also; hence 84 may be considered the most recommendable tuning in the 7-limit. [[53edo]] might be preferred in the 5-limit because of its nearly pure fifth and in the 11-limit because of it slightly better 11, though most of its 11-limit harmony is actually worse. Aside from the semicomma and 65625/65536, 7-limit orwell tempers out 2430/2401, the nuwell comma, 1728/1715, the orwellisma, 225/224, the septimal kleisma, and 6144/6125, the porwell comma.


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=Borwell=
=Borwell=  
Commas: 225/224, 243/242, 1728/1715
Commas: 225/224, 243/242, 1728/1715


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&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:2:&amp;lt;h2&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;h2 id="toc1"&gt;&lt;a name="Seven limit children-Orwell"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:2 --&gt;Orwell&lt;/h2&gt;
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  So called because 19\84 (as a &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/fraction%20of%20the%20octave"&gt;fraction of the octave&lt;/a&gt;) is a possible generator of this temperament, orwell divides the interval of a twelfth (a tempered 3/1 frequency ratio) into 7 equal steps. It's compatible with &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/22edo"&gt;22&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/31edo"&gt;31&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/53edo"&gt;53&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/84edo"&gt;84&lt;/a&gt; equal, and may be described as the 22&amp;amp;31 temperament, or &amp;lt;&amp;lt;7 -3 8 -21 -7 27||. It's a good system in the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/7-limit"&gt;7-limit&lt;/a&gt; and naturally extends into the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/11-limit"&gt;11-limit&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/84edo"&gt;84edo&lt;/a&gt;, with the 19\84 generator, provides a good tuning for the 5, 7 and 11 limits, but it does use its second-best 11. However, the 19\84 generator is remarkably close to the 11-limit &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/POTE%20tuning"&gt;POTE tuning&lt;/a&gt;, as the generator is only 0.0024 cents sharper, and it is a good approximation to the 7-limit POTE generator also; hence 84 may be considered the most recommendable tuning in the 7-limit. &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/53edo"&gt;53edo&lt;/a&gt; might be preferred in the 5-limit because of its nearly pure fifth and in the 11-limit because of it slightly better 11, though most of its 11-limit harmony is actually worse. Aside from the semicomma and 65625/65536, 7-limit orwell tempers out 2430/2401, the nuwell comma, 1728/1715, the orwellisma, 225/224, the septimal kleisma, and 6144/6125, the porwell comma.&lt;br /&gt;
  Main article: &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Orwell"&gt;Orwell&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
So called because 19\84 (as a &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/fraction%20of%20the%20octave"&gt;fraction of the octave&lt;/a&gt;) is a possible generator of this temperament, orwell divides the interval of a twelfth (a tempered 3/1 frequency ratio) into 7 equal steps. It's compatible with &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/22edo"&gt;22&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/31edo"&gt;31&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/53edo"&gt;53&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/84edo"&gt;84&lt;/a&gt; equal, and may be described as the 22&amp;amp;31 temperament, or &amp;lt;&amp;lt;7 -3 8 -21 -7 27||. It's a good system in the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/7-limit"&gt;7-limit&lt;/a&gt; and naturally extends into the &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/11-limit"&gt;11-limit&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/84edo"&gt;84edo&lt;/a&gt;, with the 19\84 generator, provides a good tuning for the 5, 7 and 11 limits, but it does use its second-best 11. However, the 19\84 generator is remarkably close to the 11-limit &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/POTE%20tuning"&gt;POTE tuning&lt;/a&gt;, as the generator is only 0.0024 cents sharper, and it is a good approximation to the 7-limit POTE generator also; hence 84 may be considered the most recommendable tuning in the 7-limit. &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/53edo"&gt;53edo&lt;/a&gt; might be preferred in the 5-limit because of its nearly pure fifth and in the 11-limit because of it slightly better 11, though most of its 11-limit harmony is actually worse. Aside from the semicomma and 65625/65536, 7-limit orwell tempers out 2430/2401, the nuwell comma, 1728/1715, the orwellisma, 225/224, the septimal kleisma, and 6144/6125, the porwell comma.&lt;br /&gt;
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The 11-limit version of orwell tempers out 99/98, which means that two of its sharpened 7/6 generators give a flattened 11/8, as well as 121/120, 176/175, 385/384 and 540/539. Despite lowered tuning accuracy, orwell comes into its own in the 11-limit, giving acceptable accuracy and relatively low complexity. Tempering out the orwellisma, 1728/1715, means that orwell interprets three stacked 7/6 generators as an 8/5, and the tempered 1-7/6-11/8-8/5 chord is natural to orwell.&lt;br /&gt;
The 11-limit version of orwell tempers out 99/98, which means that two of its sharpened 7/6 generators give a flattened 11/8, as well as 121/120, 176/175, 385/384 and 540/539. Despite lowered tuning accuracy, orwell comes into its own in the 11-limit, giving acceptable accuracy and relatively low complexity. Tempering out the orwellisma, 1728/1715, means that orwell interprets three stacked 7/6 generators as an 8/5, and the tempered 1-7/6-11/8-8/5 chord is natural to orwell.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:12:&amp;lt;h1&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;h1 id="toc6"&gt;&lt;a name="Borwell"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:12 --&gt;Borwell&lt;/h1&gt;
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Commas: 225/224, 243/242, 1728/1715&lt;br /&gt;
Commas: 225/224, 243/242, 1728/1715&lt;br /&gt;
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POTE generator: ~55/36 = 735.752&lt;br /&gt;
POTE generator: ~55/36 = 735.752&lt;br /&gt;