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Ennealimmal temperament tempers out the two smallest 7-limit superparticular commas, 2401/2400 and 4375/4374, leading to a temperament of unusual efficiency. It also tempers out the ennealimma comma, |1 -27 18>, which leads to the identification of (27/25)^9 with the octave, and gives ennealimmal a period of 1/9 octave. While 27/25 is a 5-limit interval, two periods equates to 7/6 because of identification by 4375/4374, and this represents 7/6 with such accuracy (a fifth of a cent flat) that there is no realistic possibility of treating ennealimmal as anything other than 7-limit.

Aside from 10/9 which has already been mentioned, possible generators include 36/35, 21/20, 6/5, 7/5 and the neutral thirds pair 49/40 and 60/49, all of which have their own interesting advantages. Possible tunings are 441, 612, or 3600 equal, though its hardly likely anyone could tell the difference.</pre></div>

Aside from 10/9 which has already been mentioned, possible generators include 36/35, 21/20, 6/5, 7/5 and the neutral thirds pair 49/40 and 60/49, all of which have their own interesting advantages. Possible tunings are 441, 612, or 3600 equal, though its hardly likely anyone could tell the difference.

===Supermajor temperament===

The generator for supermajor is a supermajor third, 9/7, tuned about 0.0002 cents flat. 37 of these give (2^15)/3, 46 give (2^19)/5, and 75 give (2^30)/7, leading to a wedgie of <<37 46 75 -13 15 45||. This is clearly quite a complex temperament; it makes up for it, to the extent it does, with extreme accuracy: 1106 or 1277 can be used as tunings, leading to accuracy even greater thsn that of ennealimmal. The 80 note MOS is presumably the place to start, and if that isn't enough notes for you, there's always the 171 note MOS.</pre></div>

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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;width:200%;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html"><html><head><title>Ragismic microtemperaments</title></head><body>The ragisma is 4375/4374, the smallest 7-limit superparticular ratio. Since (10/9)^4 = 4375/4374 * 32/21, the minor tone 10/9 tends to be an interval of relatively low complexity in temperaments tempering out the ragisma, though when looking at microtemperaments the word &quot;relatively&quot; should be emphasized. Even so mitonic uses it as a generator, which ennealimmal and enneadecal can do also, and amity reaches it in three generators. We also have 7/6 = 4375/4374 * (27/25)^2, so 27/25 also tends to relatively low cmplexity, with the same caveat about &quot;relatively&quot;; however 27/25 is the period for ennealimmal.<br />

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Ennealimmal temperament tempers out the two smallest 7-limit superparticular commas, 2401/2400 and 4375/4374, leading to a temperament of unusual efficiency. It also tempers out the ennealimma comma, |1 -27 18&gt;, which leads to the identification of (27/25)^9 with the octave, and gives ennealimmal a period of 1/9 octave. While 27/25 is a 5-limit interval, two periods equates to 7/6 because of identification by 4375/4374, and this represents 7/6 with such accuracy (a fifth of a cent flat) that there is no realistic possibility of treating ennealimmal as anything other than 7-limit.<br />

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Aside from 10/9 which has already been mentioned, possible generators include 36/35, 21/20, 6/5, 7/5 and the neutral thirds pair 49/40 and 60/49, all of which have their own interesting advantages. Possible tunings are 441, 612, or 3600 equal, though its hardly likely anyone could tell the difference.</body></html></pre></div>

Aside from 10/9 which has already been mentioned, possible generators include 36/35, 21/20, 6/5, 7/5 and the neutral thirds pair 49/40 and 60/49, all of which have their own interesting advantages. Possible tunings are 441, 612, or 3600 equal, though its hardly likely anyone could tell the difference.<br />

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<h3 id="toc1"><a name="x--Supermajor temperament"></a>Supermajor temperament</h3>

The generator for supermajor is a supermajor third, 9/7, tuned about 0.0002 cents flat. 37 of these give (2^15)/3, 46 give (2^19)/5, and 75 give (2^30)/7, leading to a wedgie of &lt;&lt;37 46 75 -13 15 45||. This is clearly quite a complex temperament; it makes up for it, to the extent it does, with extreme accuracy: 1106 or 1277 can be used as tunings, leading to accuracy even greater thsn that of ennealimmal. The 80 note MOS is presumably the place to start, and if that isn't enough notes for you, there's always the 171 note MOS.</body></html></pre></div>

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 Ennealimmal temperament tempers out the two smallest 7-limit superparticular commas, 2401/2400 and 4375/4374, leading to a temperament of unusual efficiency. It also tempers out the ennealimma comma, |1 -27 18&gt;, which leads to the identification of (27/25)^9 with the octave, and gives ennealimmal a period of 1/9 octave. While 27/25 is a 5-limit interval, two periods equates to 7/6 because of identification by 4375/4374, and this represents 7/6 with such accuracy (a fifth of a cent flat) that there is no realistic possibility of treating ennealimmal as anything other than 7-limit.
-Aside from 10/9 which has already been mentioned, possible generators include 36/35, 21/20, 6/5, 7/5 and the neutral thirds pair 49/40 and 60/49, all of which have their own interesting advantages. Possible tunings are 441, 612, or 3600 equal, though its hardly likely anyone could tell the difference.</pre></div>
+Aside from 10/9 which has already been mentioned, possible generators include 36/35, 21/20, 6/5, 7/5 and the neutral thirds pair 49/40 and 60/49, all of which have their own interesting advantages. Possible tunings are 441, 612, or 3600 equal, though its hardly likely anyone could tell the difference.
+===Supermajor temperament===
+The generator for supermajor is a supermajor third, 9/7, tuned about 0.0002 cents flat. 37 of these give (2^15)/3, 46 give (2^19)/5, and 75 give (2^30)/7, leading to a wedgie of &lt;&lt;37 46 75 -13 15 45||. This is clearly quite a complex temperament; it makes up for it, to the extent it does, with extreme accuracy: 1106 or 1277 can be used as tunings, leading to accuracy even greater thsn that of ennealimmal. The 80 note MOS is presumably the place to start, and if that isn't enough notes for you, there's always the 171 note MOS.</pre></div>
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 Ennealimmal temperament tempers out the two smallest 7-limit superparticular commas, 2401/2400 and 4375/4374, leading to a temperament of unusual efficiency. It also tempers out the ennealimma comma, |1 -27 18&amp;gt;, which leads to the identification of (27/25)^9 with the octave, and gives ennealimmal a period of 1/9 octave. While 27/25 is a 5-limit interval, two periods equates to 7/6 because of identification by 4375/4374, and this represents 7/6 with such accuracy (a fifth of a cent flat) that there is no realistic possibility of treating ennealimmal as anything other than 7-limit.&lt;br /&gt;
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-Aside from 10/9 which has already been mentioned, possible generators include 36/35, 21/20, 6/5, 7/5 and the neutral thirds pair 49/40 and 60/49, all of which have their own interesting advantages. Possible tunings are 441, 612, or 3600 equal, though its hardly likely anyone could tell the difference.&lt;/body&gt;&lt;/html&gt;</pre></div>
+Aside from 10/9 which has already been mentioned, possible generators include 36/35, 21/20, 6/5, 7/5 and the neutral thirds pair 49/40 and 60/49, all of which have their own interesting advantages. Possible tunings are 441, 612, or 3600 equal, though its hardly likely anyone could tell the difference.&lt;br /&gt;
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+The generator for supermajor is a supermajor third, 9/7, tuned about 0.0002 cents flat. 37 of these give (2^15)/3, 46 give (2^19)/5, and 75 give (2^30)/7, leading to a wedgie of &amp;lt;&amp;lt;37 46 75 -13 15 45||. This is clearly quite a complex temperament; it makes up for it, to the extent it does, with extreme accuracy: 1106 or 1277 can be used as tunings, leading to accuracy even greater thsn that of ennealimmal. The 80 note MOS is presumably the place to start, and if that isn't enough notes for you, there's always the 171 note MOS.&lt;/body&gt;&lt;/html&gt;</pre></div>