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=== As a tuning of other temperaments ===
=== As a tuning of other temperaments ===
Although 32edo is generally considered a mediocre system for approximating [[JI]] (at least relative to other EDOs of a similar size), it does still offer several [[regular temperament]]s that could be used for this purpose. Using the patent val, 32edo provides a good tuning for the [[sixix]] temperament, which [[tempering out|tempers out]] the [[5-limit]] sixix comma, [[3125/2916]]. Sixix is generated by an approximate [[6/5]], which is tuned very sharp so that five of them octave-reduce to [[4/3]]. In 32edo this is the 9\32 generator of size 337.5 cents. [[Petr Pařízek]]'s preferred generator for sixix is (128/15)<sup>(1/11)</sup>, which is 337.430 cents and which gives equal error to fifths and major thirds, so 32edo does sixix about as well as sixix can be done. The same generator can also be used for the much more inaccurate [[mohavila]] temperament in the 32bde val, which treats the 675-cent fifth from [[16edo]] as 3/2 (basically it is [[mavila]]'s response to neutral third temperaments).  
Although 32edo is generally considered a mediocre system for approximating [[JI]] (at least relative to other EDOs of a similar size), it does still offer several [[regular temperament]]s that could be used for this purpose. Using the patent val, 32edo provides a good tuning for the [[sixix]] temperament, which [[tempering out|tempers out]] the [[5-limit]] sixix comma, [[3125/2916]]. Sixix is generated by an approximate [[6/5]], which is tuned very sharp so that five of them octave-reduce to [[4/3]]. In 32edo this is the 9\32 generator of size 337.5 cents. [[Petr Pařízek]]'s preferred generator for sixix is (128/15)<sup>(1/11)</sup>, which is 337.430{{c}} and which gives equal error to fifths and major thirds, so 32edo does sixix about as well as sixix can be done.
 
The same generator can also be used for the much more inaccurate [[mohavila]] temperament in the 32bde val, which treats the 675{{c}} fifth from [[16edo]] as 3/2 (basically it is [[mavila]]'s response to neutral third temperaments). Although this fifth is in the range of [[mavila]] temperament, using it directly for [[mavila]] (with no weak extension to divide it or the octave) produces [[contorsion]], furthermore, it is much more inaccurate than the sharp fifth, so 32edo cannot truly be considered a [[dual-fifth]] system.


The patent val also tempers out [[2048/2025]] in the 5-limit, and [[50/49]] with [[64/63]] in the [[7-limit]], which means it [[support]]s [[pajara]], with a very sharp fifth of 712.5 cents which could be experimented with by those with a penchant for fifths even sharper than the fifth of [[27edo]]; this fifth is in fact very close to the [[minimax tuning]] of the pajara extension [[Diaschismic family #Pajaro|pajaro]], using the 32f val.  
The patent val also tempers out [[2048/2025]] in the 5-limit, and [[50/49]] with [[64/63]] in the [[7-limit]], which means it [[support]]s [[pajara]], with a very sharp fifth of 712.5 cents which could be experimented with by those with a penchant for fifths even sharper than the fifth of [[27edo]]; this fifth is in fact very close to the [[minimax tuning]] of the pajara extension [[Diaschismic family #Pajaro|pajaro]], using the 32f val.  


The sharp fifth of 32edo can be used to generate a very unequal [[archy]] (specifically [[oceanfront]]) [[5L 2s|diatonic scale]], with a [[diatonic semitone]] of 5 steps and a [[chromatic semitone]] of only 1. The diatonic [[major third]] (which can sound like both a major third and a flat fourth depending on context) is an interseptimal interval of 450{{c}}, approximating [[9/7]] and [[13/10]], and the minor third is 262.5{{c}}, approximating [[7/6]]. In the 11-limit 32edo provides the [[optimal patent val]] for [[kangaroo]] temperament, tempering out [[55/54]], 64/63, and [[245/242]], whereas the 32c val is equally good for [[progress]]. Both temperaments are generated by a flat [[16/11]] such that three of them reduce to [[3/2]] and six of them reduce to [[8/7]]. The 15-note scale could potentially be used as a [[detempering]] of [[15edo]].
The patent fifth of 32edo can be used to generate a very unequal [[archy]] (specifically [[oceanfront]]) [[5L 2s|diatonic scale]], with a [[chromatic semitone]] of 5 steps and a [[diatonic semitone]] of only 1. The diatonic [[major third]] (which can sound like both a major third and a flat fourth depending on context) is an interseptimal interval of 450{{c}}, approximating [[9/7]] and [[13/10]], and the minor third is 262.5{{c}}, approximating [[7/6]]. In the 11-limit 32edo provides the [[optimal patent val]] for [[kangaroo]] temperament, tempering out [[55/54]], 64/63, and [[245/242]], whereas the 32c val is equally good for [[progress]]. Both temperaments are generated by a flat [[16/11]] such that three of them reduce to [[3/2]] and six of them reduce to [[8/7]]. The 15-note scale could potentially be used as a [[detempering]] of [[15edo]].
 
In addition to the sharp fifth, there is an alternative [[mavila|mavila-like]] flat fifth of 675{{c}} (inherited from [[16edo]]), but it is much more inaccurate than the sharp fifth, so 32edo cannot truly be considered a [[dual-fifth]] system.


=== Subsets and supersets ===
=== Subsets and supersets ===