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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">**Pergen** (pronounced "peer-gen") | <div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">**Pergen** (pronounced "peer-gen") sets are a way of identifying rank-2 and rank-3 regular temperaments by their periods and generators. They are somewhat JI-agnostic in that they don't use higher primes. Rank-2 names only use the first two primes in the prime subgroup, and rank-3 names only use the first three primes. | ||
If a rank-2 temperament uses the primes 2 and 3 in its comma(s), then the period can be expressed as the octave 2/1, or some fraction of an octave. The generator can be expressed as a 3-limit interval, or some fraction of one. The fraction is always of the form 1/N, in other words, the octave or the 3-limit interval is **split** into N parts. A 3-limit interval which is split into multiple generators is called a **multi-gen**. | If a rank-2 temperament uses the primes 2 and 3 in its comma(s), then the period can be expressed as the octave 2/1, or some fraction of an octave. The generator can be expressed as a 3-limit interval, or some fraction of one. The fraction is always of the form 1/N, in other words, the octave or the 3-limit interval is **split** into N parts. A 3-limit interval which is split into multiple generators is called a **multi-gen**. | ||
For example,the srutal temperament splits the octave in two, and its pergen name is half-octave. The name is written {P8/2, P5}. Curly brackets are used because the name is a set of intervals. The dicot temperament splits the fifth in two, and is called half-fifth, written {P8, P5/2}. Porcupine is third-fourth, | For example,the srutal temperament splits the octave in two, and its pergen name is half-octave. The name is written {P8/2, P5}. Curly brackets are used because the name is a set of intervals. The dicot temperament splits the fifth in two, and is called half-fifth, written {P8, P5/2}. Porcupine is third-fourth, {P8, P4/3}. Semaphore, which means "semi-fourth", is of course {P8, P4/2}. | ||
Many temperaments will share the same pergen set. This has the advantage of reducing the hundreds (thousands?) of temperament names to perhaps a few dozen categories. It focuses on the melodic properties of the temperament, not the harmonic properties. Both srutal and injera sound the same, although they temper out different commas. | |||
The largest category contains all commas of the form 2<span style="vertical-align: super;">x </span>3<span style="vertical-align: super;">y </span>P or 2<span style="vertical-align: super;">x </span>3<span style="vertical-align: super;">y </span>P<span style="vertical-align: super;">-1</span>, where P is a prime (e.g. 81/80 or 64/63). The period is the octave, and the generator is the fifth. Such temperaments are called fifth-based. | The largest category contains all commas of the form 2<span style="vertical-align: super;">x </span>3<span style="vertical-align: super;">y </span>P or 2<span style="vertical-align: super;">x </span>3<span style="vertical-align: super;">y </span>P<span style="vertical-align: super;">-1</span>, where P is a prime (e.g. 81/80 or 64/63). The period is the octave, and the generator is the fifth. Such temperaments are called fifth-based. | ||
Every temperament has at least one alternate generator. To avoid ambiguity, the generator is chosen to minimize the amount of splitting of the multi-gen, and as a tie-breaker, to minimize the size in cents of the multi-gen. There is only one exception to this rule: the fifth is preferred over the fourth, to follow historical precedent. | |||
For example, srutal could be {P8/2, M2/2}, but P5 is preferred because it is unsplit. Or it could be {P8/2, P12}, but P5 is preferred because it is smaller. Or it could be {P8/2, P4}, but P5 is always preferred over P4. Note that P5/2 is __not__ preferred over P4/2. For example, decimal is {P8/2, P4/2}, not {P8/2, P5/2}. | For example, srutal could be {P8/2, M2/2}, but P5 is preferred because it is unsplit. Or it could be {P8/2, P12}, but P5 is preferred because it is smaller. Or it could be {P8/2, P4}, but P5 is always preferred over P4. Note that P5/2 is __not__ preferred over P4/2. For example, decimal is {P8/2, P4/2}, not {P8/2, P5/2}. | ||
||||~ pergen name ||||||||~ | ||||~ pergen name ||||||||~ example temperaments || | ||
||~ written ||~ spoken ||~ comma(s) ||~ name ||||~ color name || | ||~ written ||~ spoken ||~ comma(s) ||~ name ||||~ color name || | ||
||= {P8, P5} ||= fifth-based ||= 81/80 ||= meantone ||= green ||= gT || | ||= {P8, P5} ||= fifth-based ||= 81/80 ||= meantone ||= green ||= gT || | ||
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For the 2.3... prime subgroup, the color names indicate the amount of splitting: deep splits something into two parts, triple into three parts, etc. | For the 2.3... prime subgroup, the color names indicate the amount of splitting: deep splits something into two parts, triple into three parts, etc. | ||
For quadruple colors, the 3-limit multi-gen may be the major 2nd 9/8. For hextuple, | For quadruple colors, the 3-limit multi-gen may be the major 2nd 9/8. For example, large quadruple jade tempers out (-17,2,0,0,4), and is {P8/2, M2/4} = half-octave, quarter-tone (9/8 is a whole tone). For hextuple colors, the multi-gen may be the minor 3rd 32/27. These intervals may also be voiced wider, as 3/1, 9/4, etc. To avoid cumbersome degree names like 16th or 18th, for degrees above 11, the widening is indicated with a "W". Thus 3/1 = WP5, 9/2 = WWM2, etc. Thus magic is {P8, WP5/5} = fifth-wide-fifth. | ||
For non-standard prime groups, the period uses the first prime only, and the multi-gen uses the first two primes only. [[Kite's color notation|Color notation ]]is used to indicate primes higher than 3. For example, 2.5.7 with 50/49 tempered out is {P8/2, y3} = half-octave, yellow-third. | For non-standard prime groups, the period uses the first prime only, and the multi-gen uses the first two primes only. [[Kite's color notation|Color notation ]]is used to indicate primes higher than 3. For example, 2.5.7 with 50/49 tempered out is {P8/2, y3} = half-octave, yellow-third. | ||
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Rank-4 temperaments can be named similarly. Rank-1 temperaments could have pergen names, such as {P8/12} for 12-edo or {P12/13} for 13-ed3, but there's no particular reason to do so.</pre></div> | Rank-4 temperaments can be named similarly. Rank-1 temperaments could have pergen names, such as {P8/12} for 12-edo or {P12/13} for 13-ed3, but there's no particular reason to do so.</pre></div> | ||
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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;width:200%;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html"><html><head><title>pergen names</title></head><body><strong>Pergen</strong> (pronounced &quot;peer-gen&quot;) | <div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;width:200%;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html"><html><head><title>pergen names</title></head><body><strong>Pergen</strong> (pronounced &quot;peer-gen&quot;) sets are a way of identifying rank-2 and rank-3 regular temperaments by their periods and generators. They are somewhat JI-agnostic in that they don't use higher primes. Rank-2 names only use the first two primes in the prime subgroup, and rank-3 names only use the first three primes.<br /> | ||
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If a rank-2 temperament uses the primes 2 and 3 in its comma(s), then the period can be expressed as the octave 2/1, or some fraction of an octave. The generator can be expressed as a 3-limit interval, or some fraction of one. The fraction is always of the form 1/N, in other words, the octave or the 3-limit interval is <strong>split</strong> into N parts. A 3-limit interval which is split into multiple generators is called a <strong>multi-gen</strong>.<br /> | If a rank-2 temperament uses the primes 2 and 3 in its comma(s), then the period can be expressed as the octave 2/1, or some fraction of an octave. The generator can be expressed as a 3-limit interval, or some fraction of one. The fraction is always of the form 1/N, in other words, the octave or the 3-limit interval is <strong>split</strong> into N parts. A 3-limit interval which is split into multiple generators is called a <strong>multi-gen</strong>.<br /> | ||
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For example,the srutal temperament splits the octave in two, and its pergen name is half-octave. The name is written {P8/2, P5}. Curly brackets are used because the name is a set of intervals. The dicot temperament splits the fifth in two, and is called half-fifth, written {P8, P5/2}. Porcupine is third-fourth, | For example,the srutal temperament splits the octave in two, and its pergen name is half-octave. The name is written {P8/2, P5}. Curly brackets are used because the name is a set of intervals. The dicot temperament splits the fifth in two, and is called half-fifth, written {P8, P5/2}. Porcupine is third-fourth, {P8, P4/3}. Semaphore, which means &quot;semi-fourth&quot;, is of course {P8, P4/2}.<br /> | ||
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Many temperaments will share the same pergen set. This has the advantage of reducing the hundreds (thousands?) of temperament names to perhaps a few dozen categories. It focuses on the melodic properties of the temperament, not the harmonic properties. Both srutal and injera sound the same, although they temper out different commas.<br /> | |||
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The largest category contains all commas of the form 2<span style="vertical-align: super;">x </span>3<span style="vertical-align: super;">y </span>P or 2<span style="vertical-align: super;">x </span>3<span style="vertical-align: super;">y </span>P<span style="vertical-align: super;">-1</span>, where P is a prime (e.g. 81/80 or 64/63). The period is the octave, and the generator is the fifth. Such temperaments are called fifth-based.<br /> | |||
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Every temperament has at least one alternate generator. To avoid ambiguity, the generator is chosen to minimize the amount of splitting of the multi-gen, and as a tie-breaker, to minimize the size in cents of the multi-gen. There is only one exception to this rule: the fifth is preferred over the fourth, to follow historical precedent.<br /> | |||
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For example, srutal could be {P8/2, M2/2}, but P5 is preferred because it is unsplit. Or it could be {P8/2, P12}, but P5 is preferred because it is smaller. Or it could be {P8/2, P4}, but P5 is always preferred over P4. Note that P5/2 is <u>not</u> preferred over P4/2. For example, decimal is {P8/2, P4/2}, not {P8/2, P5/2}.<br /> | For example, srutal could be {P8/2, M2/2}, but P5 is preferred because it is unsplit. Or it could be {P8/2, P12}, but P5 is preferred because it is smaller. Or it could be {P8/2, P4}, but P5 is always preferred over P4. Note that P5/2 is <u>not</u> preferred over P4/2. For example, decimal is {P8/2, P4/2}, not {P8/2, P5/2}.<br /> | ||
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<th colspan="2">pergen name<br /> | <th colspan="2">pergen name<br /> | ||
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<th colspan="4"> | <th colspan="4">example temperaments<br /> | ||
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For the 2.3... prime subgroup, the color names indicate the amount of splitting: deep splits something into two parts, triple into three parts, etc.<br /> | For the 2.3... prime subgroup, the color names indicate the amount of splitting: deep splits something into two parts, triple into three parts, etc.<br /> | ||
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For quadruple colors, the 3-limit multi-gen may be the major 2nd 9/8. For hextuple, | For quadruple colors, the 3-limit multi-gen may be the major 2nd 9/8. For example, large quadruple jade tempers out (-17,2,0,0,4), and is {P8/2, M2/4} = half-octave, quarter-tone (9/8 is a whole tone). For hextuple colors, the multi-gen may be the minor 3rd 32/27. These intervals may also be voiced wider, as 3/1, 9/4, etc. To avoid cumbersome degree names like 16th or 18th, for degrees above 11, the widening is indicated with a &quot;W&quot;. Thus 3/1 = WP5, 9/2 = WWM2, etc. Thus magic is {P8, WP5/5} = fifth-wide-fifth.<br /> | ||
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For non-standard prime groups, the period uses the first prime only, and the multi-gen uses the first two primes only. <a class="wiki_link" href="/Kite%27s%20color%20notation">Color notation </a>is used to indicate primes higher than 3. For example, 2.5.7 with 50/49 tempered out is {P8/2, y3} = half-octave, yellow-third.<br /> | For non-standard prime groups, the period uses the first prime only, and the multi-gen uses the first two primes only. <a class="wiki_link" href="/Kite%27s%20color%20notation">Color notation </a>is used to indicate primes higher than 3. For example, 2.5.7 with 50/49 tempered out is {P8/2, y3} = half-octave, yellow-third.<br /> |