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But what happens if you were to make the fifth even sharper than 5edo's? Well now the small step is going to become even smaller than 0 cents, that is,  it will become negative in size. Let's try to create a major scale by stacking 28edo's 728.6-cent fifth, which is just slightly larger than 5edo's: 257.1-514.3-471.4-728.6-985.7-1242.9-1200. Now the so-called "major third" is ''larger'' than the "perfect fourth", and likewise for the "major seventh" being larger than the octave.
But what happens if you were to make the fifth even sharper than 5edo's? Well now the small step is going to become even smaller than 0 cents, that is,  it will become negative in size. Let's try to create a major scale by stacking 28edo's 728.6-cent fifth, which is just slightly larger than 5edo's: 257.1-514.3-471.4-728.6-985.7-1242.9-1200. Now the so-called "major third" is ''larger'' than the "perfect fourth", and likewise for the "major seventh" being larger than the octave.


Obviously it is quite nonsensical to have an octave-repeating scale with the notes out of order, so let's put these in order and octave-reduce the 1242.9-cent "major seventh" to 42.9 cents: 42.9-257.1-471.4-514.3-728.6-985.7-1200. This scale is now in order but it is not a MOS because there are 3 step sizes, because there is now the 42.9-cent small step, the 214.3-cent large step and a single 257.1-cent "extra large" step. If you want to turn it back into a MOS scale,  then the extra-large step can be simply split into one large step and one small step, which adds an extra note. This results in 28edo's oneirotonic scale, 42.9-257.1-300.0-514.3-728.6-771.4-985.7-1200. This approach will work for any fifth between 720 and 750 cents (the generator range of oneirotonic). So the oneirotonic scale can be seen as essentially being the result of a diatonic scale with fifths even sharper than that of 5edo, just with some adjustments to make it back into a normal properly-ordered MOS scale.
Obviously it is quite nonsensical to have an octave-repeating scale with the notes out of order, so let's put these in order and octave-reduce the 1242.9-cent "major seventh" to 42.9 cents: 42.9-257.1-471.4-514.3-728.6-985.7-1200. This scale is now in order but it is not a MOS because there are 3 step sizes, because there is now the 42.9-cent small step, the 214.3-cent large step and a single 257.1-cent "extra large" step. If you want to turn it back into a MOS scale,  then the extra-large step can be simply split into one large step and one small step, which adds an extra note. This results in 28edo's oneirotonic scale, 42.9-257.1-300.0-514.3-728.6-771.4-985.7-1200. This approach will work for any fifth between 720 and 750 cents (the generator range of oneirotonic). So the oneirotonic scale can be seen as the result of a diatonic scale with fifths even sharper than that of 5edo, just with an adjustment to make it into a normal properly-ordered MOS scale.


== Samples ==
== Samples ==