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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">Some questions to consider as input to thinking about microtonal pedagogy. If you would like to answer them, please put it on a separate page and link to it here.
<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">===Questions===
Some questions to consider as input to thinking about microtonal pedagogy. Follow the links to specific topics.


What considerations does the particular question of a //microtonal// pedagogy warrant?
[[microtonal pedagogy considerations|**What considerations does the particular question of a microtonal pedagogy warrant?**]]


What does one consider when endeavoring to write pieces of microtonal music that also teach the microtones that they use?
[[music that teaches itself|**What does one consider when endeavoring to write pieces of microtonal music that also teach the microtones that they use?**]]


When is learning a microtonal system of pitches //harder// than learning the 12-equal system? When is it //easier//?
[[when are microtones easy|**When is learning a microtonal system of pitches harder than learning the 12-equal system? When is it easier?**]]


//Answered in [[PedagogyTradeoffs]]//
**//Answered in [[PedagogyTradeoffs]]//**


When does experience in 12 //help// in learning non-12? When does it //hinder//?
[[learning conflicting pitch systems|**When does experience in 12 help in learning non-12? When does it hinder?**]]


//Answered in [[ExperienceHelpingMicrotonality]]//
**//Answered in [[ExperienceHelpingMicrotonality]]//**


When does experience in non-12 //help// in learning 12? When does //it// hinder?
[[learning conflicting pitch systems|**When does experience in non-12 help in learning 12? When does it hinder?**]]


To what degree can the need for a microtonal pedagogy address a general problem of missing language in speaking microtonality?
[[missing language|**To what degree can the need for a microtonal pedagogy address a general problem of missing language in speaking microtonality?**]]
 
[[sequestering learning|**In whose interest is it to sequester off learning/education/pedagogy into a separate page, as if learning only happens in schools/when you want it to?**]]
A related question: in whose interest is it to sequester off learning/education/pedagogy into a separate page, as if learning only happens in schools/when you want it to?
[[method books teaching tools|**What method books and teaching tools do you recommend for the microtonal student?**]]</pre></div>
 
Microtonal method books / teaching tools / resources
* Neil Haverstick books
* Joe Maneri 72-tone book
* Brian McLaren Introduction to Microtonality CD, DVDs
* W.A. Mathieu: The Harmonic Experience
* David Doty: Just Intonation Primer
* any [[http://sonic-arts.org/darreg/contents.htm|Ivor Darreg]] in particular?
* Jacob Barton [[ThirtyOneToneSinginCamp]], such nonexistent new musical interfaces as the String Playground
* Kyle Gann's Just Intonation Explained, JI
* Jim Alteri's JI calculator with sound
* Partch, Genesis of a Music</pre></div>
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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;width:200%;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">&lt;html&gt;&lt;head&gt;&lt;title&gt;Pedagogy&lt;/title&gt;&lt;/head&gt;&lt;body&gt;Some questions to consider as input to thinking about microtonal pedagogy. If you would like to answer them, please put it on a separate page and link to it here.&lt;br /&gt;
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Some questions to consider as input to thinking about microtonal pedagogy. Follow the links to specific topics.&lt;br /&gt;
What considerations does the particular question of a &lt;em&gt;microtonal&lt;/em&gt; pedagogy warrant?&lt;br /&gt;
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What does one consider when endeavoring to write pieces of microtonal music that also teach the microtones that they use?&lt;br /&gt;
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When is learning a microtonal system of pitches &lt;em&gt;harder&lt;/em&gt; than learning the 12-equal system? When is it &lt;em&gt;easier&lt;/em&gt;?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/microtonal%20pedagogy%20considerations"&gt;**What considerations does the particular question of a microtonal pedagogy warrant?**&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;em&gt;Answered in &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/PedagogyTradeoffs"&gt;PedagogyTradeoffs&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/music%20that%20teaches%20itself"&gt;**What does one consider when endeavoring to write pieces of microtonal music that also teach the microtones that they use?**&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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When does experience in 12 &lt;em&gt;help&lt;/em&gt; in learning non-12? When does it &lt;em&gt;hinder&lt;/em&gt;?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/when%20are%20microtones%20easy"&gt;**When is learning a microtonal system of pitches harder than learning the 12-equal system? When is it easier?**&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;em&gt;Answered in &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/ExperienceHelpingMicrotonality"&gt;ExperienceHelpingMicrotonality&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;Answered in &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/PedagogyTradeoffs"&gt;PedagogyTradeoffs&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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When does experience in non-12 &lt;em&gt;help&lt;/em&gt; in learning 12? When does &lt;em&gt;it&lt;/em&gt; hinder?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/learning%20conflicting%20pitch%20systems"&gt;**When does experience in 12 help in learning non-12? When does it hinder?**&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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To what degree can the need for a microtonal pedagogy address a general problem of missing language in speaking microtonality?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;Answered in &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/ExperienceHelpingMicrotonality"&gt;ExperienceHelpingMicrotonality&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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A related question: in whose interest is it to sequester off learning/education/pedagogy into a separate page, as if learning only happens in schools/when you want it to?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/learning%20conflicting%20pitch%20systems"&gt;**When does experience in non-12 help in learning 12? When does it hinder?**&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Microtonal method books / teaching tools / resources&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/missing%20language"&gt;**To what degree can the need for a microtonal pedagogy address a general problem of missing language in speaking microtonality?**&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;Neil Haverstick books&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Joe Maneri 72-tone book&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Brian McLaren Introduction to Microtonality CD, DVDs&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;W.A. Mathieu: The Harmonic Experience&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;David Doty: Just Intonation Primer&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;any &lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://sonic-arts.org/darreg/contents.htm" rel="nofollow"&gt;Ivor Darreg&lt;/a&gt; in particular?&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Jacob Barton &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/ThirtyOneToneSinginCamp"&gt;ThirtyOneToneSinginCamp&lt;/a&gt;, such nonexistent new musical interfaces as the String Playground&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Kyle Gann's Just Intonation Explained, JI&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Jim Alteri's JI calculator with sound&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Partch, Genesis of a Music&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/body&gt;&lt;/html&gt;</pre></div>
&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/sequestering%20learning"&gt;**In whose interest is it to sequester off learning/education/pedagogy into a separate page, as if learning only happens in schools/when you want it to?**&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/method%20books%20teaching%20tools"&gt;**What method books and teaching tools do you recommend for the microtonal student?**&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/body&gt;&lt;/html&gt;</pre></div>
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