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**Mode numbers** provide a way to name MOS, MODMOS and even non-MOS rank-2 scales and modes systematically. Like [[xenharmonic/Modal UDP notation|Modal UDP notation]], it starts with the convention of using //some-temperament-name//[//some-number//] to create a generator-chain, and adds a way to number each mode uniquely. For example, here are all the modes of Meantone[7], using ~3/2 as the generator:
**Mode numbers** provide a way to name MOS, MODMOS and even non-MOS rank-2 scales and modes systematically. Like [[xenharmonic/Modal UDP notation|Modal UDP notation]], it starts with the convention of using //some-temperament-name//[//some-number//] to create a generator-chain, and adds a way to number each mode uniquely.  
 
For example, here are all the modes of Meantone[7], using ~3/2 as the generator:
|| old scale name || new scale name || sL pattern || example on white keys || genchain ||
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|| Lydian || 1st Meantone [7] || LLLs LLs || F G A B C D E F || __**F**__ C G D A E B ||
|| Lydian || 1st Meantone [7] || LLLs LLs || F G A B C D E F || __**F**__ C G D A E B ||
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==[[#Rank-2 scales that are neither MOS nor MODMOS]]**__Rank-2 scales that are neither MOS nor MODMOS__**==  
==[[#Rank-2 scales that are neither MOS nor MODMOS]]**__Other rank-2 scales__**==  


Some scales have too many or too few notes to be MOS. If they have an unbroken genchain, they can be named Meantone [6], Meantone [8], etc. Curly brackets can be used to distinguish them from MOS scales: Meantone {6} and Meantone {8}.
Some scales have too many or too few notes to be MOS or MODMOS. If they have an unbroken genchain, they can be named Meantone [6], Meantone [8], etc. Curly brackets can be used to distinguish them from MOS scales: Meantone {6} and Meantone {8}.


However chromatic alterations create genchains with gaps that are very difficult to name. These scales must be named as MOS scales with notes added or removed, using "add" and "no", analogous to chord names. As with MODMOS scales, there is often more than one name for a scale.
However chromatic alterations create genchains with gaps that are very difficult to name. These scales must be named as MOS scales with notes added or removed, using "add" and "no", analogous to chord names. As with MODMOS scales, there is often more than one name for a scale.
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==[[#Explanation / Rationale]]__Explanation / Rationale__==  
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**__Why not number the modes in the order they occur in the scale?__**
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Furthermore, UDP uses the more mathematical [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-based_numbering|zero-based counting]] and Mode Numbers notation uses the more intuitive one-based counting. UDP is mathematician-oriented whereas Mode Numbers notation is musician-oriented.</pre></div>
Furthermore, UDP uses the more mathematical [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-based_numbering|zero-based counting]] and Mode Numbers notation uses the more intuitive one-based counting. UDP is mathematician-oriented whereas Mode Numbers notation is musician-oriented.</pre></div>
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&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:19 --&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Mode numbers&lt;/strong&gt; provide a way to name MOS, MODMOS and even non-MOS rank-2 scales and modes systematically. Like &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/Modal%20UDP%20notation"&gt;Modal UDP notation&lt;/a&gt;, it starts with the convention of using &lt;em&gt;some-temperament-name&lt;/em&gt;[&lt;em&gt;some-number&lt;/em&gt;] to create a generator-chain, and adds a way to number each mode uniquely. For example, here are all the modes of Meantone[7], using ~3/2 as the generator:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextTocRule:19 --&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Mode numbers&lt;/strong&gt; provide a way to name MOS, MODMOS and even non-MOS rank-2 scales and modes systematically. Like &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/Modal%20UDP%20notation"&gt;Modal UDP notation&lt;/a&gt;, it starts with the convention of using &lt;em&gt;some-temperament-name&lt;/em&gt;[&lt;em&gt;some-number&lt;/em&gt;] to create a generator-chain, and adds a way to number each mode uniquely. &lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/MODMOS%20Scales"&gt;MODMOS&lt;/a&gt; scales are named as chromatic alterations of a MOS scale, similar to UDP notation. The ascending melodic minor scale is 5th Meantone [7] #6 #7. The &amp;quot;#&amp;quot; symbol means moved N steps forwards on the genchain, whether the generator is chroma-positive or not. This scale has the same name in 16edo, even though in 16edo, G# is actually flat of G.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/MODMOS%20Scales"&gt;MODMOS&lt;/a&gt; scales are named as chromatic alterations of a MOS scale, similar to UDP notation. The ascending melodic minor scale is 5th Meantone [7] #6 #7. The &amp;quot;#&amp;quot; symbol means moved N steps forwards on the genchain, whether the generator is chroma-positive or not. This scale has the same name in 16edo, even though in 16edo, G# is actually flat of G.&lt;br /&gt;
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Fractional-period rank-2 temperaments have multiple genchains running in parallel. Multiple genchains occur because a rank-2 genchain is really a 2 dimensional &amp;quot;genweb&amp;quot;, running in octaves (or whatever the period is) vertically and fifths (or whatever the generator is) horizontally.&lt;br /&gt;
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Some scales have too many or too few notes to be MOS. If they have an unbroken genchain, they can be named Meantone [6], Meantone [8], etc. Curly brackets can be used to distinguish them from MOS scales: Meantone {6} and Meantone {8}.&lt;br /&gt;
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However chromatic alterations create genchains with gaps that are very difficult to name. These scales must be named as MOS scales with notes added or removed, using &amp;quot;add&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;no&amp;quot;, analogous to chord names. As with MODMOS scales, there is often more than one name for a scale.&lt;br /&gt;
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As long as we stick to MOS scales, terms like Meantone [5] or Meantone {6} are fine. But when we alter, add or drop notes, we need to define what &amp;quot;#4&amp;quot; means in a pentatonic or hexatonic context.&lt;br /&gt;
As long as we stick to MOS scales, terms like Meantone [5] or Meantone {6} are fine. But when we alter, add or drop notes, we need to define what &amp;quot;#4&amp;quot; means in a pentatonic or hexatonic context.&lt;br /&gt;
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