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If the scale is written using heptatonically using 7 /note names, the degree numbers are heptatonic. C D E G A# is written 1st Meantone [5] #6. If the scale were written pentatonically using 5 note names, perhaps J K L M #N, it would be 1st Meantone [5] #5. If discussing scales in the abstract without reference to any note names, one need to specify which type of numbering is bering used.
If the scale is written using heptatonically using 7 /note names, the degree numbers are heptatonic. C D E G A# is written 1st Meantone [5] #6. If the scale were written pentatonically using 5 note names, perhaps J K L M #N, it would be 1st Meantone [5] #5. If discussing scales in the abstract without reference to any note names, one need to specify which type of numbering is bering used.


The scale of 8\13 fifths A C B D F E G A mentioned above can't be notated with fifth-based heptatonic and requires pentatonic notation. Using the numbers 1-5 both as note names and as scale degrees, we get this genchain:
The scale of 8\13 fifths A C B D F E G A mentioned above can't be notated with fifth-based heptatonic and requires pentatonic notation. Because the pentatonic fifth is chroma-negative, the fifthward side of the genchain is flat and the fourthwards side is sharp (assuming a fifth &lt; 720¢). Use "+" for fifthwards and "-" for fourthwards. Using the numbers 1-5 both as note names and as scale degrees, we get this genchain:
...5# 3# 1# 4# 2# 5 3 1 4 2 5b 3b 1b 4b 2b...
...5# 3# 1# 4# 2# 5 3 1 4 2 5b 3b 1b 4b 2b bb5...
...-5 -3 -1 -4 -2 5 3 1 4 2 +5 +3 +1 +4 +2 ++5...
and these standard modes:
and these standard modes:
1 1st Meantone [5] = 1 2 b3 4 b5 1
1 1st Meantone [5] = 1 2 +3 4 +5 1
1 2nd Meantone [5] = 1 2 3 4 b5 1
1 2nd Meantone [5] = 1 2 3 4 +5 1
1 3rd Meantone [5] = 1 2 3 4 5 1
1 3rd Meantone [5] = 1 2 3 4 5 1
1 4th Meantone [5] = 1 #2 3 4 5 1
1 4th Meantone [5] = 1 -2 3 4 5 1
1 5th Meantone [5] = 1 #2 3 #4 5 1
1 5th Meantone [5] = 1 -2 3 -4 5 1
The initial "1" is the tonic of the scale.
The initial "1" is the tonic of the scale.


The A C B D F E G A scale becomes 1 2 2# 3 4 b5 5 1, which has 3 possible names:
The A C B D F E G A scale becomes 1 2 -2 3 4 +5 5 1, which has 3 possible names:
1 3rd Meantone [5] add #2, b5
1 3rd Meantone [5] add -2, +5
1 2nd Meantone [5] add #2, #5
1 2nd Meantone [5] add -2, -5
1 4th Meantone [5] add b2, b5
1 4th Meantone [5] add +2, +5




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If the scale is written using heptatonically using 7 /note names, the degree numbers are heptatonic. C D E G A# is written 1st Meantone [5] #6. If the scale were written pentatonically using 5 note names, perhaps J K L M #N, it would be 1st Meantone [5] #5. If discussing scales in the abstract without reference to any note names, one need to specify which type of numbering is bering used.&lt;br /&gt;
If the scale is written using heptatonically using 7 /note names, the degree numbers are heptatonic. C D E G A# is written 1st Meantone [5] #6. If the scale were written pentatonically using 5 note names, perhaps J K L M #N, it would be 1st Meantone [5] #5. If discussing scales in the abstract without reference to any note names, one need to specify which type of numbering is bering used.&lt;br /&gt;
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The scale of 8\13 fifths A C B D F E G A mentioned above can't be notated with fifth-based heptatonic and requires pentatonic notation. Using the numbers 1-5 both as note names and as scale degrees, we get this genchain:&lt;br /&gt;
The scale of 8\13 fifths A C B D F E G A mentioned above can't be notated with fifth-based heptatonic and requires pentatonic notation. Because the pentatonic fifth is chroma-negative, the fifthward side of the genchain is flat and the fourthwards side is sharp (assuming a fifth &amp;lt; 720¢). Use &amp;quot;+&amp;quot; for fifthwards and &amp;quot;-&amp;quot; for fourthwards. Using the numbers 1-5 both as note names and as scale degrees, we get this genchain:&lt;br /&gt;
...5# 3# 1# 4# 2# 5 3 1 4 2 5b 3b 1b 4b 2b...&lt;br /&gt;
...5# 3# 1# 4# 2# 5 3 1 4 2 5b 3b 1b 4b 2b bb5...&lt;br /&gt;
...-5 -3 -1 -4 -2 5 3 1 4 2 +5 +3 +1 +4 +2 ++5...&lt;br /&gt;
and these standard modes:&lt;br /&gt;
and these standard modes:&lt;br /&gt;
1 1st Meantone [5] = 1 2 b3 4 b5 1&lt;br /&gt;
1 1st Meantone [5] = 1 2 +3 4 +5 1&lt;br /&gt;
1 2nd Meantone [5] = 1 2 3 4 b5 1&lt;br /&gt;
1 2nd Meantone [5] = 1 2 3 4 +5 1&lt;br /&gt;
1 3rd Meantone [5] = 1 2 3 4 5 1&lt;br /&gt;
1 3rd Meantone [5] = 1 2 3 4 5 1&lt;br /&gt;
1 4th Meantone [5] = 1 #2 3 4 5 1&lt;br /&gt;
1 4th Meantone [5] = 1 -2 3 4 5 1&lt;br /&gt;
1 5th Meantone [5] = 1 #2 3 #4 5 1&lt;br /&gt;
1 5th Meantone [5] = 1 -2 3 -4 5 1&lt;br /&gt;
The initial &amp;quot;1&amp;quot; is the tonic of the scale.&lt;br /&gt;
The initial &amp;quot;1&amp;quot; is the tonic of the scale.&lt;br /&gt;
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The A C B D F E G A scale becomes 1 2 2# 3 4 b5 5 1, which has 3 possible names:&lt;br /&gt;
The A C B D F E G A scale becomes 1 2 -2 3 4 +5 5 1, which has 3 possible names:&lt;br /&gt;
1 3rd Meantone [5] add #2, b5&lt;br /&gt;
1 3rd Meantone [5] add -2, +5&lt;br /&gt;
1 2nd Meantone [5] add #2, #5&lt;br /&gt;
1 2nd Meantone [5] add -2, -5&lt;br /&gt;
1 4th Meantone [5] add b2, b5&lt;br /&gt;
1 4th Meantone [5] add +2, +5&lt;br /&gt;
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