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== Ratios of 7 ==
== Ratios of 7 ==


Since we are using a pentatonic system of notation, and [[5edo]] represents the [[2.3.7 subgroup]] very well, we will investigate ratios with factors of 7 before ratios with a factor of 5. Just like in the FJS, we will be using [[64/63]] as our formal comma.
Since we are using a pentatonic system of notation, and [[5edo]] represents the [[2.3.7 subgroup]] very well, we will investigate ratios with factors of 7 before ratios with factors of 5. Just like in the FJS, we will be using [[64/63]] as our formal comma.
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Revision as of 08:42, 26 December 2025

Traditionally, we use a diatonic system of interval classification. This works well in the 5-limit and in meantone. However, in other systems like superpyth, a pentatonic system of classification based on the 2L 3s MOS scale may be preferred. We will develop a pentatonic version of the FJS, starting from the 3-limit and using formal commas to reach higher limits.

The 3-limit

We start by examining pythagorean intervals based on 2L 3s classification. Note that the subscript 5 before the interval name means it is pentatonic, and that a factor of 5 in the denominator of a ratio would be a subscript 5 after the interval name.

Pythagorean intervals
Ratio Cents Interval name
(Pentatonic)
1/1 0.0 5P1
256/243 90.2 5A1
2187/2048 113.7 5d2
9/8 203.9 5m2
32/27 294.1 5M2
81/64 407.8 5d3
4/3 498.0 5P3
1024/729 588.3 5A3
729/512 611.7 5d4
3/2 702.0 5P4
128/81 792.2 5A4
27/16 905.9 5m5
16/9 996.1 5M5
4096/2187 1086.3 5A5
243/128 1109.8 5d6
2/1 1200.0 5P6

In contrast to diatonic, 256/243 is a chroma interval, separating major and minor intervals of the same category. Interestingly, only pentatonic seconds and fifths now have major/minor, and augmented and diminished intervals come way eariler.

Ratios of 7

Since we are using a pentatonic system of notation, and 5edo represents the 2.3.7 subgroup very well, we will investigate ratios with factors of 7 before ratios with factors of 5. Just like in the FJS, we will be using 64/63 as our formal comma.

Ratios with a factor of 7
Ratio Cents Interval name
(Pentatonic)
64/63 27.3 5P17
28/27 63.0 5A17
243/224 140.9 5d27
8/7 231.2 5m27
7/6 266.9 5M27
9/7 435.1 5d37
21/16 470.8 5P37
112/81 561.0 5A37
81/56 639.0 5d47
32/21 729.2 5P47
14/9 764.9 5A47
12/7 933.1 5m57
7/4 968.8 5M57
448/243 1059.1 5A57
27/14 1137.0 5d67
63/32 1200.0 5P67
Ratios with two factors of 7
Ratio Cents Interval name
(Pentatonic)
4096/3969 54.5 5P17,7
49/48 35.7 5A17,7
54/49 168.2 5d27,7
512/441 258.4 5m27,7
147/128 239.6 5M27,7
64/49 462.3 5d37,7
1323/1024 443.5 5P37,7
49/36 533.7 5A37,7
72/49 666.3 5d47,7
2048/1323 756.5 5P47,7
49/32 737.7 5A47,7
256/147 960.4 5m57,7
441/256 941.6 5M57,7
49/27 1031.8 5A57,7
96/49 1164.3 5d67,7
3969/2048 1145.5 5P67,7

We look at the interval classes with major and minor again. After modification by 64/63, the minor 5second becomes 8/7, the major 5second 7/6, the minor 5fifth 12/7, and the major 5fifth 7/4. In the 5-limit, a major third and a minor third are stacked to make triads. A similar system works here, where a stack of a major and minor 5second gives the 6:7:8 triad dividing 4/3. The 7/6 and 8/7 intervals contrast by 49/48, analogous to how 5/4 and 6/5. A minor version of the 6:7:8 triad can be obtained by swapping the order of the 7/6 and 8/7, which leads to 1/(8:7:6) = 21:24:28. Perhaps surprisingly, these chords are better constructed by stacking 5fifths rather than 5seconds. The stacked intervals are now the 7/4 major 5fifth and the 12/7 minor 5fifth, which reach the 3/1 perfect 5ninth. This voicing avoids the dominant-seventh-like tension of 6:7:8 and places the root on the bottom, while keeping the contrast by 49/48.

Interval classification would be much simpler if the Pythagorean intervals were equated with their simpler septimal counterparts; this occurs in superpyth temperament, where 64/63 is tempered out.