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=Definition= | =Definition= | ||
A **monzo** is a way of notating a JI interval that allows us to express directly how any "composite" interval is represented in terms of those simpler prime intervals. They are typically written using the notation |a b c d e f ... >, where the columns represent how the primes 2, 3, 5, 7, 11, 13, etc, in that order, contribute to the interval's prime factorization, up to some [[harmonic limit|prime limit]]. | A **monzo** is a way of notating a JI interval that allows us to express directly how any "composite" interval is represented in terms of those simpler prime intervals. They are typically written using the notation | a b c d e f ... >, where the columns represent how the primes 2, 3, 5, 7, 11, 13, etc, in that order, contribute to the interval's prime factorization, up to some [[harmonic limit|prime limit]]. | ||
Monzos can be thought of as counterparts to [[Vals|vals]]. | Monzos can be thought of as counterparts to [[Vals|vals]]. | ||
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=Examples= | =Examples= | ||
For example, the interval 15/8 can be thought of as having 5*3 in the numerator, and 2*2*2 in the denominator. This can be compactly represented by the expression 2^-3 * 3^1 * 5^1, which is exactly equal to 15/8. We construct the monzo by taking the exponent from each prime, in order, and placing them within the | | For example, the interval 15/8 can be thought of as having 5*3 in the numerator, and 2*2*2 in the denominator. This can be compactly represented by the expression 2^-3 * 3^1 * 5^1, which is exactly equal to 15/8. We construct the monzo by taking the exponent from each prime, in order, and placing them within the | ... > brackets, hence yielding | -3 1 1 >. | ||
Here are some common 5-limit monzos, for your reference: | Here are some common 5-limit monzos, for your reference: | ||
3/2 | ||~ Ratio ||~ Monzo || | ||
5/4 | ||= 3/2 || | -1 1 0 > || | ||
9/8 | ||= 5/4 || | -2 0 1 > || | ||
81/80 | ||= 9/8 || | -3 2 0 > || | ||
||= 81/80 || | -4 4 -1 > || | |||
Here are a few 7-limit monzos: | Here are a few 7-limit monzos: | ||
7/4 | ||~ Ratio ||~ Monzo || | ||
7/6 | ||= 7/4 || | -2 0 0 1 > || | ||
7/5 | ||= 7/6 || | -1 -1 0 1 > || | ||
||= 7/5 || | 0 0 -1 1 > || | |||
=Relationship with vals= | =Relationship with vals= | ||
//See also: [[Vals]], [[Keenan's explanation of vals]], [[Vals and Tuning Space]] (more mathematical)// | //See also: [[Vals]], [[Keenan's explanation of vals]], [[Vals and Tuning Space]] (more mathematical)// | ||
Monzos are important because they enable us to see how any JI interval "maps" onto a val. This mapping is expressed by writing the val and the monzo together, such as <12 19 28|-4 4 -1>. The mapping is extremely easily to calculate: simply multiply together each component in the same position on both sides of the line, and add the results together. This is perhaps best demonstrated by example: | Monzos are important because they enable us to see how any JI interval "maps" onto a val. This mapping is expressed by writing the val and the monzo together, such as < 12 19 28 | -4 4 -1 >. The mapping is extremely easily to calculate: simply multiply together each component in the same position on both sides of the line, and add the results together. This is perhaps best demonstrated by example: | ||
<12 19 28|-4 4 -1> | < 12 19 28 | -4 4 -1 > | ||
(12*-4) + (19*4) + (28*1)<span class="st"> = </span>0 | (12*-4) + (19*4) + (28*1)<span class="st"> = </span>0 | ||
In this case, the val <12 19 28| is the [[patent val]] for 12-equal, and |-4 4 -1> is 81/80, or the syntonic comma. The fact that <12 19 28|-4 4 -1> tells us that 81/80 is mapped to 0 steps in 12-equal - aka it's tempered out - which tells us that 12-equal is a meantone temperament. It is noteworthy that almost the entirety of western music, particularly western music composed for 12-equal or 12-tone well temperaments, is made possible by the above equation. | In this case, the val < 12 19 28 | is the [[patent val]] for 12-equal, and | -4 4 -1 > is 81/80, or the syntonic comma. The fact that < 12 19 28 | -4 4 -1 > tells us that 81/80 is mapped to 0 steps in 12-equal - aka it's tempered out - which tells us that 12-equal is a meantone temperament. It is noteworthy that almost the entirety of western music, particularly western music composed for 12-equal or 12-tone well temperaments, is made possible by the above equation. | ||
**In general: <a b c|d e f> = ad + be + cf**</pre></div> | **In general: < a b c | d e f > = ad + be + cf**</pre></div> | ||
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A <strong>monzo</strong> is a way of notating a JI interval that allows us to express directly how any &quot;composite&quot; interval is represented in terms of those simpler prime intervals. They are typically written using the notation |a b c d e f ... &gt;, where the columns represent how the primes 2, 3, 5, 7, 11, 13, etc, in that order, contribute to the interval's prime factorization, up to some <a class="wiki_link" href="/harmonic%20limit">prime limit</a>.<br /> | A <strong>monzo</strong> is a way of notating a JI interval that allows us to express directly how any &quot;composite&quot; interval is represented in terms of those simpler prime intervals. They are typically written using the notation | a b c d e f ... &gt;, where the columns represent how the primes 2, 3, 5, 7, 11, 13, etc, in that order, contribute to the interval's prime factorization, up to some <a class="wiki_link" href="/harmonic%20limit">prime limit</a>.<br /> | ||
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Monzos can be thought of as counterparts to <a class="wiki_link" href="/Vals">vals</a>.<br /> | Monzos can be thought of as counterparts to <a class="wiki_link" href="/Vals">vals</a>.<br /> | ||
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For example, the interval 15/8 can be thought of as having 5*3 in the numerator, and 2*2*2 in the denominator. This can be compactly represented by the expression 2^-3 * 3^1 * 5^1, which is exactly equal to 15/8. We construct the monzo by taking the exponent from each prime, in order, and placing them within the | | For example, the interval 15/8 can be thought of as having 5*3 in the numerator, and 2*2*2 in the denominator. This can be compactly represented by the expression 2^-3 * 3^1 * 5^1, which is exactly equal to 15/8. We construct the monzo by taking the exponent from each prime, in order, and placing them within the | ... &gt; brackets, hence yielding | -3 1 1 &gt;.<br /> | ||
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Here are some common 5-limit monzos, for your reference:<br /> | Here are some common 5-limit monzos, for your reference:<br /> | ||
3/2 | |||
5/4 | |||
9/8 | <table class="wiki_table"> | ||
81/80 | <tr> | ||
<th>Ratio<br /> | |||
</th> | |||
<th>Monzo<br /> | |||
</th> | |||
</tr> | |||
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<td style="text-align: center;">3/2<br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td>| -1 1 0 &gt;<br /> | |||
</td> | |||
</tr> | |||
<tr> | |||
<td style="text-align: center;">5/4<br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td>| -2 0 1 &gt;<br /> | |||
</td> | |||
</tr> | |||
<tr> | |||
<td style="text-align: center;">9/8<br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td>| -3 2 0 &gt;<br /> | |||
</td> | |||
</tr> | |||
<tr> | |||
<td style="text-align: center;">81/80<br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td>| -4 4 -1 &gt;<br /> | |||
</td> | |||
</tr> | |||
</table> | |||
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Here are a few 7-limit monzos:<br /> | Here are a few 7-limit monzos:<br /> | ||
7/4 | |||
7/6 | |||
7/5 | <table class="wiki_table"> | ||
<tr> | |||
<th>Ratio<br /> | |||
</th> | |||
<th>Monzo<br /> | |||
</th> | |||
</tr> | |||
<tr> | |||
<td style="text-align: center;">7/4<br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td>| -2 0 0 1 &gt;<br /> | |||
</td> | |||
</tr> | |||
<tr> | |||
<td style="text-align: center;">7/6<br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td>| -1 -1 0 1 &gt;<br /> | |||
</td> | |||
</tr> | |||
<tr> | |||
<td style="text-align: center;">7/5<br /> | |||
</td> | |||
<td>| 0 0 -1 1 &gt;<br /> | |||
</td> | |||
</tr> | |||
</table> | |||
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<!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:4:&lt;h1&gt; --><h1 id="toc2"><a name="Relationship with vals"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:4 -->Relationship with vals</h1> | <!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:4:&lt;h1&gt; --><h1 id="toc2"><a name="Relationship with vals"></a><!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:4 -->Relationship with vals</h1> | ||
<em>See also: <a class="wiki_link" href="/Vals">Vals</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/Keenan%27s%20explanation%20of%20vals">Keenan's explanation of vals</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/Vals%20and%20Tuning%20Space">Vals and Tuning Space</a> (more mathematical)</em><br /> | <em>See also: <a class="wiki_link" href="/Vals">Vals</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/Keenan%27s%20explanation%20of%20vals">Keenan's explanation of vals</a>, <a class="wiki_link" href="/Vals%20and%20Tuning%20Space">Vals and Tuning Space</a> (more mathematical)</em><br /> | ||
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Monzos are important because they enable us to see how any JI interval &quot;maps&quot; onto a val. This mapping is expressed by writing the val and the monzo together, such as &lt;12 19 28|-4 4 -1&gt;. The mapping is extremely easily to calculate: simply multiply together each component in the same position on both sides of the line, and add the results together. This is perhaps best demonstrated by example:<br /> | Monzos are important because they enable us to see how any JI interval &quot;maps&quot; onto a val. This mapping is expressed by writing the val and the monzo together, such as &lt; 12 19 28 | -4 4 -1 &gt;. The mapping is extremely easily to calculate: simply multiply together each component in the same position on both sides of the line, and add the results together. This is perhaps best demonstrated by example:<br /> | ||
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&lt;12 19 28|-4 4 -1&gt;<br /> | &lt; 12 19 28 | -4 4 -1 &gt;<br /> | ||
(12*-4) + (19*4) + (28*1)<span class="st"> = </span>0<br /> | (12*-4) + (19*4) + (28*1)<span class="st"> = </span>0<br /> | ||
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In this case, the val &lt;12 19 28| is the <a class="wiki_link" href="/patent%20val">patent val</a> for 12-equal, and |-4 4 -1&gt; is 81/80, or the syntonic comma. The fact that &lt;12 19 28|-4 4 -1&gt; tells us that 81/80 is mapped to 0 steps in 12-equal - aka it's tempered out - which tells us that 12-equal is a meantone temperament. It is noteworthy that almost the entirety of western music, particularly western music composed for 12-equal or 12-tone well temperaments, is made possible by the above equation.<br /> | In this case, the val &lt; 12 19 28 | is the <a class="wiki_link" href="/patent%20val">patent val</a> for 12-equal, and | -4 4 -1 &gt; is 81/80, or the syntonic comma. The fact that &lt; 12 19 28 | -4 4 -1 &gt; tells us that 81/80 is mapped to 0 steps in 12-equal - aka it's tempered out - which tells us that 12-equal is a meantone temperament. It is noteworthy that almost the entirety of western music, particularly western music composed for 12-equal or 12-tone well temperaments, is made possible by the above equation.<br /> | ||
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<strong>In general: &lt;a b c|d e f&gt; = ad + be + cf</strong></body></html></pre></div> | <strong>In general: &lt; a b c | d e f &gt; = ad + be + cf</strong></body></html></pre></div> |