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While the [[17/1|17th harmonic]] is a cent and a half flat, the harmonics below it are all a little sharp, giving it the sound of a sharp system. Since {{nowrap|58 {{=}} 2 × 29}}, 58edo shares the same excellent perfect fifth with [[29edo]]. It is the last edo to have exactly one [[5L 2s|diatonic]] perfect fifth and no [[5edo]] or [[7edo]] fifths. | While the [[17/1|17th harmonic]] is a cent and a half flat, the harmonics below it are all a little sharp, giving it the sound of a sharp system. Since {{nowrap|58 {{=}} 2 × 29}}, 58edo shares the same excellent perfect fifth with [[29edo]]. It is the last edo to have exactly one [[5L 2s|diatonic]] perfect fifth and no [[5edo]] or [[7edo]] fifths. | ||
The [[19/1|19th]] and [[23/1|23rd]] harmonics are very flat, so it makes sense to use their second-best approximations in the 58hi val. This val is, in fact, one of the first to be [[diamond monotone]] in the 23-odd-limit, past the idiosyncratic 53e val. | |||
=== Prime harmonics === | === Prime harmonics === | ||
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! Cents | ! Cents | ||
! Approximate ratios* | ! Approximate ratios* | ||
!Additional ratios of 19 and 23 | |||
using the 58hi val | |||
! [[Ups and downs notation]] | ! [[Ups and downs notation]] | ||
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| [[1/1]] | | [[1/1]] | ||
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| {{UDnote|step=0}} | | {{UDnote|step=0}} | ||
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| 20.7 | | 20.7 | ||
| [[56/55]], [[64/63]], [[81/80]], [[91/90]], [[105/104]] | | [[56/55]], [[64/63]], [[81/80]], [[91/90]], [[105/104]] | ||
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| {{UDnote|step=1}} | | {{UDnote|step=1}} | ||
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| [[36/35]], [[40/39]], [[45/44]], [[49/48]], [[50/49]], [[55/54]] | | [[36/35]], [[40/39]], [[45/44]], [[49/48]], [[50/49]], [[55/54]] | ||
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| {{UDnote|step=2}} | | {{UDnote|step=2}} | ||
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| 62.1 | | 62.1 | ||
| [[26/25]], [[27/26]], [[28/27]], [[33/32]] | | [[26/25]], [[27/26]], [[28/27]], [[33/32]] | ||
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| {{UDnote|step=3}} | | {{UDnote|step=3}} | ||
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| [[21/20]], [[22/21]], ''[[25/24]]'' | | [[21/20]], [[22/21]], ''[[25/24]]'' | ||
|20/19 | |||
| {{UDnote|step=4}} | | {{UDnote|step=4}} | ||
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| [[16/15]], [[17/16]], [[18/17]] | | [[16/15]], [[17/16]], [[18/17]] | ||
|19/18 | |||
| {{UDnote|step=5}} | | {{UDnote|step=5}} | ||
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| [[14/13]], [[15/14]] | | [[14/13]], [[15/14]] | ||
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| {{UDnote|step=6}} | | {{UDnote|step=6}} | ||
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| [[12/11]], [[13/12]] | | [[12/11]], [[13/12]] | ||
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| {{UDnote|step=7}} | | {{UDnote|step=7}} | ||
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| [[11/10]] | | [[11/10]] | ||
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| {{UDnote|step=8}} | | {{UDnote|step=8}} | ||
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| [[10/9]] | | [[10/9]] | ||
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| {{UDnote|step=9}} | | {{UDnote|step=9}} | ||
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| [[9/8]], [[17/15]] | | [[9/8]], [[17/15]] | ||
|''19/17'' | |||
| {{UDnote|step=10}} | | {{UDnote|step=10}} | ||
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| [[8/7]] | | [[8/7]] | ||
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| {{UDnote|step=11}} | | {{UDnote|step=11}} | ||
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| [[15/13]] | | [[15/13]] | ||
|22/19 | |||
| {{UDnote|step=12}} | | {{UDnote|step=12}} | ||
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| [[7/6]] | | [[7/6]] | ||
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| {{UDnote|step=13}} | | {{UDnote|step=13}} | ||
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| [[13/11]], [[20/17]] | | [[13/11]], [[20/17]] | ||
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| {{UDnote|step=14}} | | {{UDnote|step=14}} | ||
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| 310.3 | | 310.3 | ||
| [[6/5]] | | [[6/5]] | ||
|''19/16'' | |||
| {{UDnote|step=15}} | | {{UDnote|step=15}} | ||
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| [[17/14]], [[40/33]] | | [[17/14]], [[40/33]] | ||
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| {{UDnote|step=16}} | | {{UDnote|step=16}} | ||
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| [[11/9]], [[16/13]] | | [[11/9]], [[16/13]] | ||
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| {{UDnote|step=17}} | | {{UDnote|step=17}} | ||
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| [[21/17]], [[26/21]] | | [[21/17]], [[26/21]] | ||
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| {{UDnote|step=18}} | | {{UDnote|step=18}} | ||
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| [[5/4]] | | [[5/4]] | ||
|''24/19'' | |||
| {{UDnote|step=19}} | | {{UDnote|step=19}} | ||
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| [[14/11]] | | [[14/11]] | ||
|19/15 | |||
| {{UDnote|step=20}} | | {{UDnote|step=20}} | ||
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| 434.5 | | 434.5 | ||
| [[9/7]] | | [[9/7]] | ||
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| {{UDnote|step=21}} | | {{UDnote|step=21}} | ||
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| [[13/10]], [[17/13]], [[22/17]] | | [[13/10]], [[17/13]], [[22/17]] | ||
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| {{UDnote|step=22}} | | {{UDnote|step=22}} | ||
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| [[21/16]] | | [[21/16]] | ||
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| {{UDnote|step=23}} | | {{UDnote|step=23}} | ||
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| [[4/3]] | | [[4/3]] | ||
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| {{UDnote|step=24}} | | {{UDnote|step=24}} | ||
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| [[27/20]] | | [[27/20]] | ||
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| {{UDnote|step=25}} | | {{UDnote|step=25}} | ||
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| [[15/11]] | | [[15/11]] | ||
|19/14, 26/19 | |||
| {{UDnote|step=26}} | | {{UDnote|step=26}} | ||
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| 558.6 | | 558.6 | ||
| [[11/8]], [[18/13]] | | [[11/8]], [[18/13]] | ||
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| {{UDnote|step=27}} | | {{UDnote|step=27}} | ||
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| [[7/5]] | | [[7/5]] | ||
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| {{UDnote|step=28}} | | {{UDnote|step=28}} | ||
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| [[17/12]], [[24/17]] | | [[17/12]], [[24/17]] | ||
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| {{UDnote|step=29}} | | {{UDnote|step=29}} | ||
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| [[10/7]] | | [[10/7]] | ||
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| {{UDnote|step=30}} | | {{UDnote|step=30}} | ||
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| [[13/9]], [[16/11]] | | [[13/9]], [[16/11]] | ||
|''23/16'' | |||
| {{UDnote|step=31}} | | {{UDnote|step=31}} | ||
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| 662.1 | | 662.1 | ||
| [[22/15]] | | [[22/15]] | ||
|19/13, 28/19 | |||
| {{UDnote|step=32}} | | {{UDnote|step=32}} | ||
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| {{UDnote|step=33}} | | {{UDnote|step=33}} | ||
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| [[3/2]] | | [[3/2]] | ||
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| {{UDnote|step=34}} | | {{UDnote|step=34}} | ||
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| {{UDnote|step=35}} | | {{UDnote|step=35}} | ||
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| [[17/11]], [[20/13]], [[26/17]] | | [[17/11]], [[20/13]], [[26/17]] | ||
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| {{UDnote|step=36}} | | {{UDnote|step=36}} | ||
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| [[14/9]] | | [[14/9]] | ||
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| [[11/7]] | | [[11/7]] | ||
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| {{UDnote|step=38}} | | {{UDnote|step=38}} | ||
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| 806.9 | | 806.9 | ||
| [[8/5]] | | [[8/5]] | ||
|''19/12'' | |||
| {{UDnote|step=39}} | | {{UDnote|step=39}} | ||
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| [[21/13]], [[34/21]] | | [[21/13]], [[34/21]] | ||
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| {{UDnote|step=40}} | | {{UDnote|step=40}} | ||
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| [[13/8]], [[18/11]] | | [[13/8]], [[18/11]] | ||
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| {{UDnote|step=41}} | | {{UDnote|step=41}} | ||
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| [[28/17]], [[33/20]] | | [[28/17]], [[33/20]] | ||
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| {{UDnote|step=42}} | | {{UDnote|step=42}} | ||
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| 889.7 | | 889.7 | ||
| [[5/3]] | | [[5/3]] | ||
|''32/19'' | |||
| {{UDnote|step=43}} | | {{UDnote|step=43}} | ||
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| 910.3 | | 910.3 | ||
| [[17/10]], [[22/13]] | | [[17/10]], [[22/13]] | ||
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| {{UDnote|step=44}} | | {{UDnote|step=44}} | ||
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| [[12/7]] | | [[12/7]] | ||
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| {{UDnote|step=45}} | | {{UDnote|step=45}} | ||
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| 951.7 | | 951.7 | ||
| [[26/15]] | | [[26/15]] | ||
|19/11 | |||
| {{UDnote|step=46}} | | {{UDnote|step=46}} | ||
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| 972.4 | | 972.4 | ||
| [[7/4]] | | [[7/4]] | ||
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| {{UDnote|step=47}} | | {{UDnote|step=47}} | ||
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| [[16/9]], [[30/17]] | | [[16/9]], [[30/17]] | ||
|''34/19'' | |||
| {{UDnote|step=48}} | | {{UDnote|step=48}} | ||
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| [[9/5]] | | [[9/5]] | ||
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| {{UDnote|step=49}} | | {{UDnote|step=49}} | ||
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| 1034.5 | | 1034.5 | ||
| [[20/11]] | | [[20/11]] | ||
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| {{UDnote|step=50}} | | {{UDnote|step=50}} | ||
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| 1055.2 | | 1055.2 | ||
| [[11/6]], [[24/13]] | | [[11/6]], [[24/13]] | ||
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| {{UDnote|step=51}} | | {{UDnote|step=51}} | ||
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| [[13/7]], [[28/15]] | | [[13/7]], [[28/15]] | ||
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| {{UDnote|step=52}} | | {{UDnote|step=52}} | ||
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| [[15/8]], [[17/9]], [[32/17]] | | [[15/8]], [[17/9]], [[32/17]] | ||
|36/19 | |||
| {{UDnote|step=53}} | | {{UDnote|step=53}} | ||
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| 1117.2 | | 1117.2 | ||
| [[21/11]], [[40/21]], ''[[48/25]]'' | | [[21/11]], [[40/21]], ''[[48/25]]'' | ||
|19/10 | |||
| {{UDnote|step=54}} | | {{UDnote|step=54}} | ||
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| [[25/13]], [[27/14]], [[52/27]], [[64/33]] | | [[25/13]], [[27/14]], [[52/27]], [[64/33]] | ||
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| {{UDnote|step=55}} | | {{UDnote|step=55}} | ||
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| [[35/18]], [[39/20]], [[49/25]], [[88/45]], [[96/49]], [[108/55]] | | [[35/18]], [[39/20]], [[49/25]], [[88/45]], [[96/49]], [[108/55]] | ||
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| {{UDnote|step=56}} | | {{UDnote|step=56}} | ||
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| 1179.3 | | 1179.3 | ||
| [[55/28]], [[63/32]], [[160/81]], [[180/91]], [[208/105]] | | [[55/28]], [[63/32]], [[160/81]], [[180/91]], [[208/105]] | ||
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| {{UDnote|step=57}} | | {{UDnote|step=57}} | ||
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| [[2/1]] | | [[2/1]] | ||
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| {{UDnote|step=58}} | | {{UDnote|step=58}} | ||
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