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[[@http://www.chrisvaisvil.com|Chris Vaisvil]] - guest visiting from out of town - to perform Saturday April 23, 2011 a TBD microtonal improvisation (probably solo microtonal guitar and approximately 10 minutes in length). Willing to collaborate / jam with other performers on stage. If you want to arrange something specific contact me at chrisvaisvil at gmail dot com.

Rob Scott - I could offer to share some of my research on cymbal geneology. What might be particularly interesting would be to bring multiple cymbals, and invite people to generate descriptors. I could share the existing vocabulary for describing cymbals, demonstrate some sounds that have been gained and lost, invite discussion on the sound potentials. (More microtimbral than microtonal.)</pre></div>

Rob Scott - I could offer to share some of my research on cymbal geneology. What might be particularly interesting would be to bring multiple cymbals, and invite people to generate descriptors. I could share the existing vocabulary for describing cymbals, demonstrate some sounds that have been gained and lost, invite discussion on the sound potentials. (More microtimbral than microtonal.)

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I understand that this page is for organizing things among participants, is that right? I am not sure how that is supposed to work exactly, I suppose I will just try typing and see if there is any response.

@Rob - I am very interested in timbre, and although no expert at all, am aware of things such as the enormous difference between real cymbals and sampled ones with just velocity control rather than the timbre control you get from the different locations to strike, ways of striking and different materials to strike with. Sampled drums have lost a lot. I've never had a chance to talk about this stuff so I have no language for any of it. Definitely interested in learning more about your insights into the detailed inner architecture of cymbal timbre.

I find things like gesture and interactions with instruments to be interesting, particularly ethnic instruments and modern ones (and not stuff like piano, dull). Things like Carlo's ribbon controller as an instrument, or the Continuum. Hopefully we might have some informal discussions about these things, and seeing how people work and interact with pitch for example. I mean beyond fixed preset tunings. Jacob squeezes the teats of his udders, for example and that can be any pitch he likes. I'd also look forward to hearing Andrew's cumbus work close up. [[user:xjscott|1301207436]]

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<a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://www.chrisvaisvil.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Chris Vaisvil</a> - guest visiting from out of town - to perform Saturday April 23, 2011 a TBD microtonal improvisation (probably solo microtonal guitar and approximately 10 minutes in length). Willing to collaborate / jam with other performers on stage. If you want to arrange something specific contact me at chrisvaisvil at gmail dot com.<br />

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Rob Scott - I could offer to share some of my research on cymbal geneology. What might be particularly interesting would be to bring multiple cymbals, and invite people to generate descriptors. I could share the existing vocabulary for describing cymbals, demonstrate some sounds that have been gained and lost, invite discussion on the sound potentials. (More microtimbral than microtonal.)</body></html></pre></div>

Rob Scott - I could offer to share some of my research on cymbal geneology. What might be particularly interesting would be to bring multiple cymbals, and invite people to generate descriptors. I could share the existing vocabulary for describing cymbals, demonstrate some sounds that have been gained and lost, invite discussion on the sound potentials. (More microtimbral than microtonal.)<br />

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I understand that this page is for organizing things among participants, is that right? I am not sure how that is supposed to work exactly, I suppose I will just try typing and see if there is any response.<br />

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@Rob - I am very interested in timbre, and although no expert at all, am aware of things such as the enormous difference between real cymbals and sampled ones with just velocity control rather than the timbre control you get from the different locations to strike, ways of striking and different materials to strike with. Sampled drums have lost a lot. I've never had a chance to talk about this stuff so I have no language for any of it. Definitely interested in learning more about your insights into the detailed inner architecture of cymbal timbre.<br />

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I find things like gesture and interactions with instruments to be interesting, particularly ethnic instruments and modern ones (and not stuff like piano, dull). Things like Carlo's ribbon controller as an instrument, or the Continuum. Hopefully we might have some informal discussions about these things, and seeing how people work and interact with pitch for example. I mean beyond fixed preset tunings. Jacob squeezes the teats of his udders, for example and that can be any pitch he likes. I'd also look forward to hearing Andrew's cumbus work close up. <span class="membersnap">- <a class="userLink" href="http://www.wikispaces.com/user/view/xjscott" style="outline: none;"><img src="http://www.wikispaces.com/user/pic/xjscott-lg.jpg" width="16" height="16" alt="xjscott" class="userPicture" /></a> <a class="userLink" href="http://www.wikispaces.com/user/view/xjscott" style="outline: none;">xjscott</a> <small>Mar 27, 2011</small></span><br />

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 [[@http://www.chrisvaisvil.com|Chris Vaisvil]] - guest visiting from out of town - to perform Saturday April 23, 2011 a TBD microtonal improvisation (probably solo microtonal guitar and approximately 10 minutes in length). Willing to collaborate / jam with other performers on stage. If you want to arrange something specific contact me at chrisvaisvil at gmail dot com.
-Rob Scott - I could offer to share some of my research on cymbal geneology. What might be particularly interesting would be to bring multiple cymbals, and invite people to generate descriptors. I could share the existing vocabulary for describing cymbals, demonstrate some sounds that have been gained and lost, invite discussion on the sound potentials. (More microtimbral than microtonal.)</pre></div>
+Rob Scott - I could offer to share some of my research on cymbal geneology. What might be particularly interesting would be to bring multiple cymbals, and invite people to generate descriptors. I could share the existing vocabulary for describing cymbals, demonstrate some sounds that have been gained and lost, invite discussion on the sound potentials. (More microtimbral than microtonal.)
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+I understand that this page is for organizing things among participants, is that right? I am not sure how that is supposed to work exactly, I suppose I will just try typing and see if there is any response.
+@Rob - I am very interested in timbre, and although no expert at all, am aware of things such as the enormous difference between real cymbals and sampled ones with just velocity control rather than the timbre control you get from the different locations to strike, ways of striking and different materials to strike with. Sampled drums have lost a lot. I've never had a chance to talk about this stuff so I have no language for any of it. Definitely interested in learning more about your insights into the detailed inner architecture of cymbal timbre.
+I find things like gesture and interactions with instruments to be interesting, particularly ethnic instruments and modern ones (and not stuff like piano, dull). Things like Carlo's ribbon controller as an instrument, or the Continuum. Hopefully we might have some informal discussions about these things, and seeing how people work and interact with pitch for example. I mean beyond fixed preset tunings. Jacob squeezes the teats of his udders, for example and that can be any pitch he likes. I'd also look forward to hearing Andrew's cumbus work close up. [[user:xjscott|1301207436]]
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+Rob Scott - I could offer to share some of my research on cymbal geneology. What might be particularly interesting would be to bring multiple cymbals, and invite people to generate descriptors. I could share the existing vocabulary for describing cymbals, demonstrate some sounds that have been gained and lost, invite discussion on the sound potentials. (More microtimbral than microtonal.)&lt;br /&gt;
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