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===Squares===
===Squares===
Squares, with wedgie &lt;&lt;4 16 9 16 3 -24||, splits the interval of an eleventh, or 8/3, into four supermajor third (9/7) intervals, and uses it for a generator. [[31edo]], with a generator of 11/31, makes for a  good squares tuning, with 8, 11, and 14 note MOS available. Squares tempers out 2401/2400, the breedsma, as well as 2430/2401.
Squares, with wedgie &lt;&lt;4 16 9 16 3 -24||, splits the interval of an eleventh, or 8/3, into four supermajor third (9/7) intervals, and uses it for a generator. [[31edo]], with a generator of 11/31, makes for a  good squares tuning, with 8, 11, and 14 note MOS available. Squares tempers out 2401/2400, the breedsma, as well as 2430/2401.
Commas: 81/80, 2401/2400
7 and 9 limit minimax 1/4 comma
[|1 0 0 0&gt;, |1 0 1/4 0&gt;, |0 0 1 0&gt;, |3/2 0 9/16 0&gt;]
Eigenmonzos: 2, 5
Algebraic generator: Sceptre2, the positive root of 9x^2+x-16, or (sqrt(577)-1)/18, which is 425.9311 cents.
Map: [&lt;1 3 8 6|, &lt;0 -4 -16 -9|]
Generators: 2, 9/7


===Liese===
===Liese===
Liese, with wedgie &lt;&lt;3 12 11 12 9 -8||, splits the twelfth interval of 3/1 into three generators of 10/7, using the comma 1029/1000. It also tempers out 686/675, the senga. [[74edo]] makes for a good liese tuning, though [[19edo]] can be used. The tuning is well-supplied with MOS: 7, 9, 11, 13, 15, 17, 19, 36, 55.</pre></div>
Liese, with wedgie &lt;&lt;3 12 11 12 9 -8||, splits the twelfth interval of 3/1 into three generators of 10/7, using the comma 1029/1000. It also tempers out 686/675, the senga. [[74edo]] makes for a good liese tuning, though [[19edo]] can be used. The tuning is well-supplied with MOS: 7, 9, 11, 13, 15, 17, 19, 36, 55.
 
Commas: 81/80, 686/675
 
7 and 9 limit minimax 1/4 comma
[|1 0 0 0&gt;, |1 0 1/4 0&gt;, |0 0 1 0&gt;, |2/3 0 11/12 0&gt;]
Eigenmonzos: 2, 5
 
Algebraic generator: Radix, the real root of x^5-2x^4+2x^3-2x^2+2x-2, also a root of x^6-x^5-2. The recurrence converges.
 
Map: [&lt;1 0 -4 -3|, &lt;0 3 12 11|]
Generators: 2, 10/7</pre></div>
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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;width:200%;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">&lt;html&gt;&lt;head&gt;&lt;title&gt;Meantone family&lt;/title&gt;&lt;/head&gt;&lt;body&gt;The 5-limit parent &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Comma"&gt;comma&lt;/a&gt; of the meantone family is the Didymos or &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Didymos%20comma"&gt;syntonic comma&lt;/a&gt;, 81/80. This is the one they all temper out. The &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Monzos%20and%20Interval%20Space"&gt;monzo&lt;/a&gt; for 81/80 goes |-4 4 -1&amp;gt;, and that can be flipped around to the corresponding &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Wedgies%20and%20Multivals"&gt;wedgie&lt;/a&gt;, &amp;lt;&amp;lt;1 4 4||, which tells us that the period is an octave, the generator is a fifth, and four fifths go to make up a 5/1 interval.&lt;br /&gt;
<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;width:200%;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">&lt;html&gt;&lt;head&gt;&lt;title&gt;Meantone family&lt;/title&gt;&lt;/head&gt;&lt;body&gt;The 5-limit parent &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Comma"&gt;comma&lt;/a&gt; of the meantone family is the Didymos or &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Didymos%20comma"&gt;syntonic comma&lt;/a&gt;, 81/80. This is the one they all temper out. The &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Monzos%20and%20Interval%20Space"&gt;monzo&lt;/a&gt; for 81/80 goes |-4 4 -1&amp;gt;, and that can be flipped around to the corresponding &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Wedgies%20and%20Multivals"&gt;wedgie&lt;/a&gt;, &amp;lt;&amp;lt;1 4 4||, which tells us that the period is an octave, the generator is a fifth, and four fifths go to make up a 5/1 interval.&lt;br /&gt;
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Squares, with wedgie &amp;lt;&amp;lt;4 16 9 16 3 -24||, splits the interval of an eleventh, or 8/3, into four supermajor third (9/7) intervals, and uses it for a generator. &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/31edo"&gt;31edo&lt;/a&gt;, with a generator of 11/31, makes for a  good squares tuning, with 8, 11, and 14 note MOS available. Squares tempers out 2401/2400, the breedsma, as well as 2430/2401.&lt;br /&gt;
Squares, with wedgie &amp;lt;&amp;lt;4 16 9 16 3 -24||, splits the interval of an eleventh, or 8/3, into four supermajor third (9/7) intervals, and uses it for a generator. &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/31edo"&gt;31edo&lt;/a&gt;, with a generator of 11/31, makes for a  good squares tuning, with 8, 11, and 14 note MOS available. Squares tempers out 2401/2400, the breedsma, as well as 2430/2401.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Commas: 81/80, 2401/2400&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
7 and 9 limit minimax 1/4 comma&lt;br /&gt;
[|1 0 0 0&amp;gt;, |1 0 1/4 0&amp;gt;, |0 0 1 0&amp;gt;, |3/2 0 9/16 0&amp;gt;]&lt;br /&gt;
Eigenmonzos: 2, 5&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Algebraic generator: Sceptre2, the positive root of 9x^2+x-16, or (sqrt(577)-1)/18, which is 425.9311 cents.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Map: [&amp;lt;1 3 8 6|, &amp;lt;0 -4 -16 -9|]&lt;br /&gt;
Generators: 2, 9/7&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
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Liese, with wedgie &amp;lt;&amp;lt;3 12 11 12 9 -8||, splits the twelfth interval of 3/1 into three generators of 10/7, using the comma 1029/1000. It also tempers out 686/675, the senga. &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/74edo"&gt;74edo&lt;/a&gt; makes for a good liese tuning, though &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/19edo"&gt;19edo&lt;/a&gt; can be used. The tuning is well-supplied with MOS: 7, 9, 11, 13, 15, 17, 19, 36, 55.&lt;/body&gt;&lt;/html&gt;</pre></div>
Liese, with wedgie &amp;lt;&amp;lt;3 12 11 12 9 -8||, splits the twelfth interval of 3/1 into three generators of 10/7, using the comma 1029/1000. It also tempers out 686/675, the senga. &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/74edo"&gt;74edo&lt;/a&gt; makes for a good liese tuning, though &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/19edo"&gt;19edo&lt;/a&gt; can be used. The tuning is well-supplied with MOS: 7, 9, 11, 13, 15, 17, 19, 36, 55.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Commas: 81/80, 686/675&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
7 and 9 limit minimax 1/4 comma&lt;br /&gt;
[|1 0 0 0&amp;gt;, |1 0 1/4 0&amp;gt;, |0 0 1 0&amp;gt;, |2/3 0 11/12 0&amp;gt;]&lt;br /&gt;
Eigenmonzos: 2, 5&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Algebraic generator: Radix, the real root of x^5-2x^4+2x^3-2x^2+2x-2, also a root of x^6-x^5-2. The recurrence converges.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Map: [&amp;lt;1 0 -4 -3|, &amp;lt;0 3 12 11|]&lt;br /&gt;
Generators: 2, 10/7&lt;/body&gt;&lt;/html&gt;</pre></div>