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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">This page discusses some of the temperaments tempering out 225/224, the marvel comma or septimal kleisma. These include negri, wizard, tritonic, septimin, slender, triton, escapade and marvo. Considered elsewhere are meantone, miracle, magic, pajara, orwell, catakleismic, garibaldi, august, compton, sharp and mavila.
<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">This page discusses some of the temperaments tempering out 225/224, the marvel comma or septimal kleisma. These include negri, wizard, tritonic, septimin, slender, triton and marvo. Considered elsewhere are meantone, miracle, magic, pajara, orwell, catakleismic, garibaldi, august, compton, sharp, escaped and mavila.


Since (5/4)^3 = 225/224 * 14/9, these temperaments tend to have a relatively small complexity for 5/4. They also possess 5/4-5/4-9/7 versions of the augmented triad. Since this is a chord of meantone temperament in wide use in Western common practice harmony long before 12edo  established itself as the standard tuning, it is arguably more authentic to tune it as two stacked major thirds and a diminished fourth, which is what it is in meantone, than as the modern version of three stacked very sharp major thirds.
Since (5/4)^3 = 225/224 * 14/9, these temperaments tend to have a relatively small complexity for 5/4. They also possess 5/4-5/4-9/7 versions of the augmented triad. Since this is a chord of meantone temperament in wide use in Western common practice harmony long before 12edo  established itself as the standard tuning, it is arguably more authentic to tune it as two stacked major thirds and a diminished fourth, which is what it is in meantone, than as the modern version of three stacked very sharp major thirds.
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[[POTE tuning|POTE temperament]]: 263.634
[[POTE tuning|POTE temperament]]: 263.634


Map: [&lt;1 4 1 5 5|, &lt;0 -11 6 -10 -7|]
Map: [&lt;1 4 1 5 5|, &lt;0 -11 6 -10 -7|]
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Map: [&lt;1 2 2 3 4|, &lt;0 -13 10 -6 -17|]
Map: [&lt;1 2 2 3 4|, &lt;0 -13 10 -6 -17|]
EDOs: 31, 63, 94, 125
EDOs: 31, 63, 94, 125
==Escapade==
Commas: 225/224, 12288/12005
[[POTE tuning|POTE temperament]]: (~49/48) 55.327
Map: [&lt;1 2 2 3|, &lt;0 -9 7 -4|]
Wedgie: &lt;&lt;9 -7 4 -32 -19 29||
EDOs: 21, 22, 43, 65
===11-limit===
Commas: 99/98, 176/175, 2560/2541
[[POTE tuning|POTE temperament]]: 55.354
Map: [&lt;1 2 2 3 3|, &lt;0 -9 7 -4 10|]
EDOs: 21, 22, 43, 65


==Triton==
==Triton==
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EDOs: 65, 72, 281, 497</pre></div>
EDOs: 65, 72, 281, 497</pre></div>
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Since (5/4)^3 = 225/224 * 14/9, these temperaments tend to have a relatively small complexity for 5/4. They also possess 5/4-5/4-9/7 versions of the augmented triad. Since this is a chord of meantone temperament in wide use in Western common practice harmony long before 12edo  established itself as the standard tuning, it is arguably more authentic to tune it as two stacked major thirds and a diminished fourth, which is what it is in meantone, than as the modern version of three stacked very sharp major thirds.&lt;br /&gt;
Since (5/4)^3 = 225/224 * 14/9, these temperaments tend to have a relatively small complexity for 5/4. They also possess 5/4-5/4-9/7 versions of the augmented triad. Since this is a chord of meantone temperament in wide use in Western common practice harmony long before 12edo  established itself as the standard tuning, it is arguably more authentic to tune it as two stacked major thirds and a diminished fourth, which is what it is in meantone, than as the modern version of three stacked very sharp major thirds.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/POTE%20tuning"&gt;POTE temperament&lt;/a&gt;: 263.634&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/POTE%20tuning"&gt;POTE temperament&lt;/a&gt;: 263.634&lt;br /&gt;
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Map: [&amp;lt;1 4 1 5 5|, &amp;lt;0 -11 6 -10 -7|]&lt;br /&gt;
Map: [&amp;lt;1 4 1 5 5|, &amp;lt;0 -11 6 -10 -7|]&lt;br /&gt;
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EDOs: 31, 63, 94, 125&lt;br /&gt;
EDOs: 31, 63, 94, 125&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:30:&amp;lt;h2&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;h2 id="toc15"&gt;&lt;a name="x-Escapade"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:30 --&gt;Escapade&lt;/h2&gt;
&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:30:&amp;lt;h2&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;h2 id="toc15"&gt;&lt;a name="x-Triton"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:30 --&gt;Triton&lt;/h2&gt;
Commas: 225/224, 12288/12005&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/POTE%20tuning"&gt;POTE temperament&lt;/a&gt;: (~49/48) 55.327&lt;br /&gt;
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Map: [&amp;lt;1 2 2 3|, &amp;lt;0 -9 7 -4|]&lt;br /&gt;
Wedgie: &amp;lt;&amp;lt;9 -7 4 -32 -19 29||&lt;br /&gt;
EDOs: 21, 22, 43, 65&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:32:&amp;lt;h3&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;h3 id="toc16"&gt;&lt;a name="x-Escapade-11-limit"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:32 --&gt;11-limit&lt;/h3&gt;
Commas: 99/98, 176/175, 2560/2541&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/POTE%20tuning"&gt;POTE temperament&lt;/a&gt;: 55.354&lt;br /&gt;
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Map: [&amp;lt;1 2 2 3 3|, &amp;lt;0 -9 7 -4 10|]&lt;br /&gt;
EDOs: 21, 22, 43, 65&lt;br /&gt;
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Commas: 225/224, 1029/1000&lt;br /&gt;
Commas: 225/224, 1029/1000&lt;br /&gt;
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EDOs: 19, 135, 289&lt;br /&gt;
EDOs: 19, 135, 289&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:36:&amp;lt;h2&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;h2 id="toc18"&gt;&lt;a name="x-Marvo"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:36 --&gt;Marvo&lt;/h2&gt;
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Commas: 225/224, 78125000/78121827&lt;br /&gt;
Commas: 225/224, 78125000/78121827&lt;br /&gt;
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EDOs: 65, 72&lt;br /&gt;
EDOs: 65, 72&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:38:&amp;lt;h3&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;h3 id="toc19"&gt;&lt;a name="x-Marvo-11-limit"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:38 --&gt;11-limit&lt;/h3&gt;
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Commas: 225/224, 243/242, 4000/3993&lt;br /&gt;
Commas: 225/224, 243/242, 4000/3993&lt;br /&gt;
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