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'''11/10''', the '''large undecimal neutral second''' or '''undecimal submajor second''', is the simplest submajor second. It is 15 cents sharp of 12/11 and 17 cents flat of 10/9. When tuned [[just]] or near-just, it not only has the very exotic melodic role of being almost exactly a third of [[4/3]], leading to [[4000/3993]] being [[Fudging|fudged]], but is also very close in size to a stack consisting of an [[apotome]] and [[33/32]], leading to the [[schisma]] being fudged. Keeping 11/10 distinct from 12/11 ensures that 11/10 bridges [[quartertone]]-based chords with more typical [[5-limit]] and [[Pythagorean tuning|Pythagorean]] chords as a step between notes. | '''11/10''', the '''large undecimal neutral second''' or '''undecimal submajor second''', is the simplest submajor second. It is 15 cents sharp of [[12/11]] and 17 cents flat of [[10/9]]. When tuned [[just]] or near-just, it not only has the very exotic melodic role of being almost exactly a third of [[4/3]], leading to [[4000/3993]] being [[Fudging|fudged]], but is also very close in size to a stack consisting of an [[apotome]] and [[33/32]], leading to the [[schisma]] being fudged. Keeping 11/10 distinct from 12/11 ensures that 11/10 bridges [[quartertone]]-based chords with more typical [[5-limit]] and [[Pythagorean tuning|Pythagorean]] chords as a step between notes. | ||
11/10 is the [[octave-reduced]] form of [[11/5]], one of the three most [[concordant]] 11-limit intervals within the entire [[4/1|first two octaves]] along with [[11/4]] and [[11/3]]. | 11/10 is the [[octave-reduced]] form of [[11/5]], one of the three most [[concordant]] 11-limit intervals within the entire [[4/1|first two octaves]] along with [[11/4]] and [[11/3]]. | ||
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11/10, the large undecimal neutral second or undecimal submajor second, is the simplest submajor second. It is 15 cents sharp of 12/11 and 17 cents flat of 10/9. When tuned just or near-just, it not only has the very exotic melodic role of being almost exactly a third of 4/3, leading to 4000/3993 being fudged, but is also very close in size to a stack consisting of an apotome and 33/32, leading to the schisma being fudged. Keeping 11/10 distinct from 12/11 ensures that 11/10 bridges quartertone-based chords with more typical 5-limit and Pythagorean chords as a step between notes.
11/10 is the octave-reduced form of 11/5, one of the three most concordant 11-limit intervals within the entire first two octaves along with 11/4 and 11/3.
Approximation
11/10 is approximated extremely precisely by 80edo and its multiples, with a chain of 80 11/10's failing to close at the octave by a mere third of a cent, close enough that you could theoretically tune an instrument to 80edo by ear using it if you had the patience. 11/10 is also approximated within 2 cents by 22edo, and is 4c sharp of an octave-reduced stack of 9 generators in BPS.
Temperaments
Using 11/10 as a generator tempering out 4000/3993 (as previously mentioned) leads to scales that look like porcupine but whose harmonies can more accurately be explained. With a half-octave period, a generator of 11/10 leads to temperaments in the stearnsmic clan such as pogo, supers, or echidna, all of which detemper 100/99 and 121/120 and efficiently and accurately find 11-limit and (no-13's) 17-limit harmonies.
Using sqrt(11/10) as a generator leads to low-complexity Nautilus with one period to the octave and high-accuracy Harry with two periods; using cbrt(11/10) as a generator leads to Escapade with one period to the octave.