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EDOs: 15, 19, 34, 87, 121, 208
EDOs: 15, 19, 34, 87, 121, 208
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==13-limit==
Commas: 325/324, 352/351, 364/363, 625/624
POTE generator: ~6/5 = 317.311
Map: [&lt;1 0 1 -12 -5 0|, &lt;0 6 5 56 32 14|]
EDOs: 15, 19, 34, 87, 121, 208
Badness: 0.0244


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The 5-limit parent comma for the kleismic family is 15625/15552, the kleisma. Its monzo is |-6 -5 6&amp;gt;, and flipping that yields &amp;lt;&amp;lt;6 5 -6|| for the wedgie. This tells us the generator is a minor third, and that to get to the interval class of major thirds will require five of these, and so to get to fifths will require six. In fact, (6/5)^5 = 5/2 * 15625/15552. 14/53 is about perfect as a generator, though 9/34 also makes sense and using &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/19edo"&gt;19edo&lt;/a&gt; is possible. Other tunings include &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/72edo"&gt;72edo&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/87edo"&gt;87edo&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/140edo"&gt;140edo&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
The 5-limit parent comma for the kleismic family is 15625/15552, the kleisma. Its monzo is |-6 -5 6&amp;gt;, and flipping that yields &amp;lt;&amp;lt;6 5 -6|| for the wedgie. This tells us the generator is a minor third, and that to get to the interval class of major thirds will require five of these, and so to get to fifths will require six. In fact, (6/5)^5 = 5/2 * 15625/15552. 14/53 is about perfect as a generator, though 9/34 also makes sense and using &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/19edo"&gt;19edo&lt;/a&gt; is possible. Other tunings include &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/72edo"&gt;72edo&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/87edo"&gt;87edo&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/140edo"&gt;140edo&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
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Commas: 325/324, 352/351, 364/363, 625/624&lt;br /&gt;
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POTE generator: ~6/5 = 317.311&lt;br /&gt;
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Map: [&amp;lt;1 0 1 -12 -5 0|, &amp;lt;0 6 5 56 32 14|]&lt;br /&gt;
EDOs: 15, 19, 34, 87, 121, 208&lt;br /&gt;
Badness: 0.0244&lt;br /&gt;
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Commas: 4000/3969, 6144/6125&lt;br /&gt;
Commas: 4000/3969, 6144/6125&lt;br /&gt;
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EDOs: 53, 121&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Comma"&gt;Commas&lt;/a&gt;: 245/243, 3136/3125&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Edo"&gt;Edos&lt;/a&gt;: &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/19edo"&gt;19&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/49edo"&gt;49&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/68edo"&gt;68&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/87edo"&gt;87&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/155edo"&gt;155&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Edo"&gt;Edos&lt;/a&gt;: &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/19edo"&gt;19&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/49edo"&gt;49&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/68edo"&gt;68&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/87edo"&gt;87&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/155edo"&gt;155&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Commas: 15625/15552, 1029/1024&lt;br /&gt;
Commas: 15625/15552, 1029/1024&lt;br /&gt;
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Commas: 385/384, 441/440, 4000/3993&lt;br /&gt;
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Commas: 15625/15552, 2401/2400&lt;br /&gt;
Commas: 15625/15552, 2401/2400&lt;br /&gt;
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Commas: 385/384, 1375/1372, 6250/6237&lt;br /&gt;
Commas: 385/384, 1375/1372, 6250/6237&lt;br /&gt;
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Commas: 325/324, 385/384, 625/624, 1573/1568&lt;br /&gt;
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