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It is only when the group in question is not the entire p-limit group that we have a just intonation subgroup in the strict sense. Such subgroups come in two flavors: finite [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Index_of_a_subgroup|index]] and infinite index, where intuitively speaking the index measures the relative size of the subgroup within the entire p-limit group. For example, the subgroups generated by 4 and 3, by 2 and 9, and by 4 and 6 all have index 2 in the full 3-limit (Pythagorean) group. Half of the 3-limit intervals will belong to any one of them, and half will not, and all three groups are distinct. On the other hand, the group generated by 2, 3, and 7 is of infinite index in the full 7-limit group, which is generated by 2, 3, 5 and 7.
It is only when the group in question is not the entire p-limit group that we have a just intonation subgroup in the strict sense. Such subgroups come in two flavors: finite [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Index_of_a_subgroup|index]] and infinite index, where intuitively speaking the index measures the relative size of the subgroup within the entire p-limit group. For example, the subgroups generated by 4 and 3, by 2 and 9, and by 4 and 6 all have index 2 in the full 3-limit (Pythagorean) group. Half of the 3-limit intervals will belong to any one of them, and half will not, and all three groups are distinct. On the other hand, the group generated by 2, 3, and 7 is of infinite index in the full 7-limit group, which is generated by 2, 3, 5 and 7.


A canonical naming system for just intonation subgroups is to give a [[Normal lists|normal interval list]] for the generators of the group, which will also show the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rank_of_an_abelian_group|rank]] of the group by the number of generators in the list.</pre></div>
A canonical naming system for just intonation subgroups is to give a [[Normal lists|normal interval list]] for the generators of the group, which will also show the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rank_of_an_abelian_group|rank]] of the group by the number of generators in the list. Below we give some of the more interesting subgroup systems. If a scale is given with the system, it means the subgroup is generated by the notes of the scale.
 
====7-limit====
[2, 3, 7]
Ets: 5, 31, 36, 135, 571
 
[2, 5, 7]
Ets: 6, 25, 31, 171, 239, 379, 410, 789
 
[2, 3, 7/5]
Ets: 10, 29, 31, 41, 70, 171, 241, 412
 
[2, 5/3, 7]
Ets: 12, 15, 42, 57, 270, 327
 
[2, 5/3, 7/3]
Ets: 27, 68, 72, 99, 171, 517
 
====11-limit====
 
[2, 3, 11]
Ets: 7, 15, 17, 24, 159, 494, 518, 653
 
[2, 5, 11]
Ets: 6, 7, 9, 13, 15, 22, 37, 87, 320
 
[2, 7, 11]
Ets: 6, 9, 11, 20, 26, 135, 161, 296
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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;width:200%;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">&lt;html&gt;&lt;head&gt;&lt;title&gt;Just intonation subgroups&lt;/title&gt;&lt;/head&gt;&lt;body&gt;By a just intonation subgroup is meant a &lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_abelian_group" rel="nofollow"&gt;group&lt;/a&gt; generated by a finite set of positive rational numbers via arbitrary multiplications and divisions. Any such group will be contained in a &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Harmonic%20Limit"&gt;p-limit&lt;/a&gt; group for some minimal choice of prime p, which is the prime limit of the subgroup. &lt;br /&gt;
<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;width:200%;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">&lt;html&gt;&lt;head&gt;&lt;title&gt;Just intonation subgroups&lt;/title&gt;&lt;/head&gt;&lt;body&gt;By a just intonation subgroup is meant a &lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_abelian_group" rel="nofollow"&gt;group&lt;/a&gt; generated by a finite set of positive rational numbers via arbitrary multiplications and divisions. Any such group will be contained in a &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Harmonic%20Limit"&gt;p-limit&lt;/a&gt; group for some minimal choice of prime p, which is the prime limit of the subgroup. &lt;br /&gt;
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It is only when the group in question is not the entire p-limit group that we have a just intonation subgroup in the strict sense. Such subgroups come in two flavors: finite &lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Index_of_a_subgroup" rel="nofollow"&gt;index&lt;/a&gt; and infinite index, where intuitively speaking the index measures the relative size of the subgroup within the entire p-limit group. For example, the subgroups generated by 4 and 3, by 2 and 9, and by 4 and 6 all have index 2 in the full 3-limit (Pythagorean) group. Half of the 3-limit intervals will belong to any one of them, and half will not, and all three groups are distinct. On the other hand, the group generated by 2, 3, and 7 is of infinite index in the full 7-limit group, which is generated by 2, 3, 5 and 7.&lt;br /&gt;
It is only when the group in question is not the entire p-limit group that we have a just intonation subgroup in the strict sense. Such subgroups come in two flavors: finite &lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Index_of_a_subgroup" rel="nofollow"&gt;index&lt;/a&gt; and infinite index, where intuitively speaking the index measures the relative size of the subgroup within the entire p-limit group. For example, the subgroups generated by 4 and 3, by 2 and 9, and by 4 and 6 all have index 2 in the full 3-limit (Pythagorean) group. Half of the 3-limit intervals will belong to any one of them, and half will not, and all three groups are distinct. On the other hand, the group generated by 2, 3, and 7 is of infinite index in the full 7-limit group, which is generated by 2, 3, 5 and 7.&lt;br /&gt;
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A canonical naming system for just intonation subgroups is to give a &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Normal%20lists"&gt;normal interval list&lt;/a&gt; for the generators of the group, which will also show the &lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rank_of_an_abelian_group" rel="nofollow"&gt;rank&lt;/a&gt; of the group by the number of generators in the list.&lt;/body&gt;&lt;/html&gt;</pre></div>
A canonical naming system for just intonation subgroups is to give a &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Normal%20lists"&gt;normal interval list&lt;/a&gt; for the generators of the group, which will also show the &lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rank_of_an_abelian_group" rel="nofollow"&gt;rank&lt;/a&gt; of the group by the number of generators in the list. Below we give some of the more interesting subgroup systems. If a scale is given with the system, it means the subgroup is generated by the notes of the scale.&lt;br /&gt;
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[2, 3, 7]&lt;br /&gt;
Ets: 5, 31, 36, 135, 571&lt;br /&gt;
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[2, 5, 7]&lt;br /&gt;
Ets: 6, 25, 31, 171, 239, 379, 410, 789&lt;br /&gt;
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[2, 3, 7/5]&lt;br /&gt;
Ets: 10, 29, 31, 41, 70, 171, 241, 412&lt;br /&gt;
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[2, 5/3, 7]&lt;br /&gt;
Ets: 12, 15, 42, 57, 270, 327&lt;br /&gt;
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[2, 5/3, 7/3]&lt;br /&gt;
Ets: 27, 68, 72, 99, 171, 517&lt;br /&gt;
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[2, 3, 11]&lt;br /&gt;
Ets: 7, 15, 17, 24, 159, 494, 518, 653&lt;br /&gt;
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[2, 5, 11]&lt;br /&gt;
Ets: 6, 7, 9, 13, 15, 22, 37, 87, 320&lt;br /&gt;
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[2, 7, 11]&lt;br /&gt;
Ets: 6, 9, 11, 20, 26, 135, 161, 296&lt;/body&gt;&lt;/html&gt;</pre></div>