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== Musical Mad Science Musings on Diatonicized Chromaticism == | == Musical Mad Science Musings on Diatonicized Chromaticism == | ||
These ramblings are copied from my comments (minus the aggravation of YouTube eating posts, and plus Xenharmonic Wikification of links, including sadly decapitalizing EDO to get said links to work) on [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6uSvtAA1ZI | These ramblings are copied from my comments (minus the aggravation of YouTube eating posts, and plus Xenharmonic Wikification of links, including sadly decapitalizing EDO to get said links to work) on [[Claudi Meneghin]]'s YouTube instance of [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6uSvtAA1ZI his arrangement of John Dowland's Pavana «Lachrimae» (from «Seven Tears») in 50edo], the hearing of which led me to realize that [[50edo]] can actually support [[Ivan Wyschnegradsky]]'s Diatonicized Chromaticism ([[11L 2s]]) scale. | ||
==== My YouTube comments start here ==== | ==== My YouTube comments start here ==== | ||
I just had a crazy idea for your next musical mad science experiment (and it potentially includes 50edo): See if it is possible to retune some of the quarter-tone ([[24edo]], "diatonicized chromatic")11L 2s (L/s = 2) scale works of Ivan Wyschnegradsky into other tuning systems that support 11L 2s and have a good approximation and single circle of 11/8 (or 16/11). Plausible candidate tuning systems on the soft side are [[37edo]] (L/s = 3/2, and has a super-good 11/8), [[61edo]] (L/s = 5/3, but 61edo is big enough to be pushing the limits of plausibility), and 50edo (L/s = 4/3 -- might be too soft). Plausible candidate tuning systems on the hard side are [[35edo]] (L/s = 3), [[59edo]] (L/s = 7/3, but 59edo is big enough to be pushing the limits of plausibility), and [[46edo]] (L/s = 4/1 -- might be too hard). | I just had a crazy idea for your next musical mad science experiment (and it potentially includes 50edo): See if it is possible to retune some of the quarter-tone ([[24edo]], "diatonicized chromatic")11L 2s (L/s = 2) scale works of Ivan Wyschnegradsky into other tuning systems that support 11L 2s and have a good approximation and single circle of 11/8 (or 16/11). Plausible candidate tuning systems on the soft side are [[37edo]] (L/s = 3/2, and has a super-good 11/8), [[61edo]] (L/s = 5/3, but 61edo is big enough to be pushing the limits of plausibility), and [[50edo]] (L/s = 4/3 -- might be too soft). Plausible candidate tuning systems on the hard side are [[35edo]] (L/s = 3), [[59edo]] (L/s = 7/3, but 59edo is big enough to be pushing the limits of plausibility), and [[46edo]] (L/s = 4/1 -- might be too hard). | ||
Most of Ivan Wyschnegradsky's quarter-tone pieces are for 2 pianos tuned a quarter tone apart (in a few cases with other instruments); he did have a couple of quarter-tone pianos and even a quarter-tone harmonium built, but was not very satisfied with them (based on quarter-tone piano photos and video footage, I am going to hazard a guess that this was for ergonomic reasons); I think that with the way he wrote this music, it really does need the resonance and timbre of pianos. | Most of Ivan Wyschnegradsky's quarter-tone pieces are for 2 pianos tuned a quarter tone apart (in a few cases with other instruments); he did have a couple of quarter-tone pianos and even a quarter-tone harmonium built, but was not very satisfied with them (based on quarter-tone piano photos and video footage, I am going to hazard a guess that this was for ergonomic reasons); I think that with the way he wrote this music, it really does need the resonance and timbre of pianos. | ||
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==== That's all for now ==== | ==== That's all for now ==== | ||
[[User:Lucius Chiaraviglio|Lucius Chiaraviglio]] ([[User talk:Lucius Chiaraviglio|talk]]) 10:18, 25 January 2025 (UTC) | [[User:Lucius Chiaraviglio|Lucius Chiaraviglio]] ([[User talk:Lucius Chiaraviglio|talk]]) 10:18, 25 January 2025 (UTC)<br> | ||
(Fixed some links) [[User:Lucius Chiaraviglio|Lucius Chiaraviglio]] ([[User talk:Lucius Chiaraviglio|talk]]) 11:04, 25 January 2025 (UTC) | |||