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<div style="width:100%; max-height:400pt; overflow:auto; background-color:#f8f9fa; border: 1px solid #eaecf0; padding:0em"><pre style="margin:0px;border:none;background:none;word-wrap:break-word;white-space: pre-wrap ! important" class="old-revision-html">==This is a wiki about microtonal (xenharmonic) musics, alternate tunings, and the means of achieving them.==
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There has not been a successful tuning wiki...yet. But this shall try to be. Here's what Jacob wrote about the idea a year ago on [[http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/MakeMicroMusic/|MMM]]:
==[[Introduction]] - very aching==
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==[[Theory]] - inventions that shape understanding==
//I think that having one is a good idea, for many reasons. Dredging through archives of Yahoo groups is an inefficient way of finding any sort of specific information. Doubtless we can make things easier for first-timers, everyone really, if we can free our collective knowledge (and opinions) from the mandatory chronologically-based system here.
==[[Scales]] - a collection of scales and thoughts about them==
==[[Instruments]] - ways one can make microtonal music, classified by instrument==
==[[Listen]] - things to put in your ears==
==[[Projects]] - atypical undertakings==
==[[Discussion]] - this category may be unnecessary given the discussion links on every page==


Certainly there are many websites by members here and elsewhere full of good information. I already feel that I have enough of my own spin on things that I could have one as well. But I'd much rather have a place where everyone could contribute, a place that would not depend on one person having enough time to maintain it.
This wiki is currently suffering from the small number of participants. Add something, ask a question, anything!</pre></div>
 
A wiki could in time accomodate several things that would be good for the community. The ones I think of include:
 
•"microtonal solutions" as I like to say; not only examples of hardware-software setups as Jon Szanto has repeatedly suggested but also acoustic solutions, experiencial instrument-making info, a list with the location of every known rare microtonal instrument, and perhaps a way for composers to write for such instruments (providing the curators of them want this)
 
•lists of downloadable microtonal sounds and CD's, and perhaps discussion and criticism.
 
•a catalogue of scales that people like, or have composed in, or have created. and discussion, sound examples of them.
 
•one thing a wiki is great for, an FAQ. Everyone posts questions, answers.
 
But ultimately the content of a wiki depends on what everyone wants there. I guess there's
no need for a grand master plan before starting something so insanely open-ended.
//----
 
So there you have it. A year later, there's one at [[http://riters.com/microtonal/|riters]], but no one uses it, it gets spammed, and it's ugly besides. So let's try this one, shall we? Try the links to your left to begin.</pre></div>
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There has not been a successful tuning wiki...yet. But this shall try to be. Here's what Jacob wrote about the idea a year ago on &lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/MakeMicroMusic/" rel="nofollow"&gt;MMM&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;em&gt;I think that having one is a good idea, for many reasons. Dredging through archives of Yahoo groups is an inefficient way of finding any sort of specific information. Doubtless we can make things easier for first-timers, everyone really, if we can free our collective knowledge (and opinions) from the mandatory chronologically-based system here.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Certainly there are many websites by members here and elsewhere full of good information. I already feel that I have enough of my own spin on things that I could have one as well. But I'd much rather have a place where everyone could contribute, a place that would not depend on one person having enough time to maintain it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A wiki could in time accomodate several things that would be good for the community. The ones I think of include:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
•&amp;quot;microtonal solutions&amp;quot; as I like to say; not only examples of hardware-software setups as Jon Szanto has repeatedly suggested but also acoustic solutions, experiencial instrument-making info, a list with the location of every known rare microtonal instrument, and perhaps a way for composers to write for such instruments (providing the curators of them want this)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
•lists of downloadable microtonal sounds and CD's, and perhaps discussion and criticism.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
•a catalogue of scales that people like, or have composed in, or have created. and discussion, sound examples of them.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
•one thing a wiki is great for, an FAQ. Everyone posts questions, answers.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
But ultimately the content of a wiki depends on what everyone wants there. I guess there's&lt;br /&gt;
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no need for a grand master plan before starting something so insanely open-ended.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;/em&gt;----&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
So there you have it. A year later, there's one at &lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://riters.com/microtonal/" rel="nofollow"&gt;riters&lt;/a&gt;, but no one uses it, it gets spammed, and it's ugly besides. So let's try this one, shall we? Try the links to your left to begin.&lt;/body&gt;&lt;/html&gt;</pre></div>
This wiki is currently suffering from the small number of participants. Add something, ask a question, anything!&lt;/body&gt;&lt;/html&gt;</pre></div>
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