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==Definition==
==Definition==
To define the hobbit scale we first define a particular [[http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Seminorm.html|seminorm]] on interval space. This seminorm applies to [[Monzos and Interval Space|monzos]] and has the property that the seminorm of a comma of the temperament, or of the unison, the octave and any power of two is 0. It may be defined as follows:
To define the hobbit scale we first define a particular [[http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Seminorm.html|seminorm]] on interval space. This seminorm applies to [[Monzos and Interval Space|monzos]] and has the property that the seminorm of a comma of the temperament, or of the unison, the octave and any power of two is 0. It may be defined as follows:


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where the norm on the right is the ordinary Euclidean norm.
where the norm on the right is the ordinary Euclidean norm.


(8) If v[1] is odd then for each integer j, 0 &lt;= j &lt; v[1], we choose a corresponding monzo mj such that &lt;v|m&gt; = j, 0 &lt;= &lt;J|m&gt; &lt; 1 where J is the JI mapping &lt;log2(2) log2(3) ... log2(p)|, and ||m||_s is minimal.
(8) If v[1] is odd then for each integer j, 0 &lt; j less than or equal to v[1], we choose a corresponding monzo mj such that &lt;v|m&gt; = j, 0 &lt; &lt;J|m&gt; less than or equal to 1 where J is the JI mapping &lt;log2(2) log2(3) ... log2(p)|, and ||m||_s is minimal.
 
(9) If v[1] is even, we choose a monzo u such that ||u||_s &gt; 0 and ||u||_s is minimal. Then for each integer j, where 0 &lt;  j less than or equal to v[1], we choose a corresponding monzo mj such that &lt;v|m&gt; = j, 0 &lt; &lt;J|m&gt; less than or equal to 1, and where ||m - u/2||_s is minimal.


(9) If v[1] is even, we choose a monzo u such that ||u||_s &gt; 0 and ||u||_s is minimal. Then for each integer j, 0 &lt;= j &lt; v[1], we choose a corresponding monzo mj such that &lt;v|m&gt; = j, 0 &lt;= &lt;J|m&gt; &lt; 1, and ||m - u/2||_s is minimal.
(10) We now apply the chosen tuning to the monzos mj, obtaining values (in cents or fractional monzos) defining a scale. The monzos mj are defined only modulo the commas and the octave o, but since the commas are tempered out and mj is in the octave range from 0 &lt; mj less than or equal to 1200 cents, this does not affect the definition of the scale.


(10) We now apply the chosen tuning to the monzos mj, obtaining values (in cents or fractional monzos) defining a scale. The monzos mj are defined only modulo the commas and the octave o, but since the commas are tempered out and mj is in the octave range from 0 to 1200 cents, this does not affect the definition of the scale.
==Example==
For an example, consider the 22 note hobbit for minerva temperament, the 11-limit temperament tempering out 99/98 and 176/175. Here the val is &lt;22 35 51 62 76|, and an interval of minimal nonzero size for the temperament is 16/15, with monzo |4 -1 -1 0 0&gt;. The fractional monzo for half of this, corresponding to the square root, is |4 -1/2 -1/2 0 0&gt;, and intervals representing scale steps are 36/35, 15/14, 11/10, 8/7, 7/6, 40/33, 5/4, 9/7, 4/3, 48/35, 10/7, 22/15, 3/2, 11/7, 8/5, 5/3, 12/7, 7/4, 64/35, 15/8, 64/33, 2/1. A tuning can be defined in various ways, for instance by approximating the above in [[53edo]], or by using the minimax tuning, which has eigenmonzsos 2, 3, and 11.


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To define the hobbit scale we first define a particular &lt;a class="wiki_link_ext" href="http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Seminorm.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;seminorm&lt;/a&gt; on interval space. This seminorm applies to &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/Monzos%20and%20Interval%20Space"&gt;monzos&lt;/a&gt; and has the property that the seminorm of a comma of the temperament, or of the unison, the octave and any power of two is 0. It may be defined as follows:&lt;br /&gt;
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(8) If v[1] is odd then for each integer j, 0 &amp;lt; j less than or equal to v[1], we choose a corresponding monzo mj such that &amp;lt;v|m&amp;gt; = j, 0 &amp;lt; &amp;lt;J|m&amp;gt; less than or equal to 1 where J is the JI mapping &amp;lt;log2(2) log2(3) ... log2(p)|, and ||m||_s is minimal.&lt;br /&gt;
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(9) If v[1] is even, we choose a monzo u such that ||u||_s &amp;gt; 0 and ||u||_s is minimal. Then for each integer j, where 0 &amp;lt;  j less than or equal to v[1], we choose a corresponding monzo mj such that &amp;lt;v|m&amp;gt; = j, 0 &amp;lt; &amp;lt;J|m&amp;gt; less than or equal to 1, and where ||m - u/2||_s is minimal.&lt;br /&gt;
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(10) We now apply the chosen tuning to the monzos mj, obtaining values (in cents or fractional monzos) defining a scale. The monzos mj are defined only modulo the commas and the octave o, but since the commas are tempered out and mj is in the octave range from 0 &amp;lt; mj less than or equal to 1200 cents, this does not affect the definition of the scale.&lt;br /&gt;
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(10) We now apply the chosen tuning to the monzos mj, obtaining values (in cents or fractional monzos) defining a scale. The monzos mj are defined only modulo the commas and the octave o, but since the commas are tempered out and mj is in the octave range from 0 to 1200 cents, this does not affect the definition of the scale.&lt;br /&gt;
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For an example, consider the 22 note hobbit for minerva temperament, the 11-limit temperament tempering out 99/98 and 176/175. Here the val is &amp;lt;22 35 51 62 76|, and an interval of minimal nonzero size for the temperament is 16/15, with monzo |4 -1 -1 0 0&amp;gt;. The fractional monzo for half of this, corresponding to the square root, is |4 -1/2 -1/2 0 0&amp;gt;, and intervals representing scale steps are 36/35, 15/14, 11/10, 8/7, 7/6, 40/33, 5/4, 9/7, 4/3, 48/35, 10/7, 22/15, 3/2, 11/7, 8/5, 5/3, 12/7, 7/4, 64/35, 15/8, 64/33, 2/1. A tuning can be defined in various ways, for instance by approximating the above in &lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/53edo"&gt;53edo&lt;/a&gt;, or by using the minimax tuning, which has eigenmonzsos 2, 3, and 11.&lt;br /&gt;
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