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{{Editable user page|You are free to add temperaments or other terms and place them where you think they should go. <br>You are also free to move temperaments currently on the list into a different category if you think their current category is incorrect according to the criteria of this page.}} | {{Editable user page|You are free to add temperaments or other terms and place them where you think they should go. <br><br>You are also free to move temperaments currently on the list into a different category if you think their current category is incorrect according to the criteria of this page. <br><br>You are also free to add your own possible alternative names.}} | ||
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* '''2 stars''' = Name that seriously risks misrepresenting a tradition or falsely claiming credit for that tradition, or risks stealing from a tradition without giving credit | * '''2 stars''' = Name that seriously risks misrepresenting a tradition or falsely claiming credit for that tradition, or risks stealing from a tradition without giving credit | ||
* '''1 stars''' = Name that misrepresents a tradition or falsely claims credit for that tradition, or which steals from a tradition without giving credit | * '''1 stars''' = Name that misrepresents a tradition or falsely claims credit for that tradition, or which steals from a tradition without giving credit | ||
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=== 1 star (fail) === | === 1 star (fail) === | ||
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R.M.A. Koesoemadinata found that the temperament most similar to slendro scales is 9&17, i.e. [[bleu]] temperament. So bleu is the only temperament that could almost get away with being called "slendric". | R.M.A. Koesoemadinata found that the temperament most similar to slendro scales is 9&17, i.e. [[bleu]] temperament. So bleu is the only temperament that could almost get away with being called "slendric". | ||
Though even then, it would be much better to have a name that acknowledges being similar but different to slendro | Though even then, it would be much better to have a name that acknowledges being similar but different to slendro. | ||
The original name for 5&36 was "wonder temperament". I’d like to see it change it back to that. I like “wonder”. | The original name for 5&36 was "wonder temperament". I’d like to see it change it back to that. I like “wonder”. | ||
'''Possible alternative names: wonder, slendmatic, slendmatical, slendrian, slendresque, gamelike, gamelesque, gamelike''' | |||
===== — — Gamelic ===== | ===== — — Gamelic ===== | ||
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[[Biyatismic]] temperament is inspired by maqam biyati, so it is good that it references that in the name. What's not good is that the name makes it sound like it is the exact same thing as maqam biyati. The name makes it sound like the temperament generates the original, traditional maqam biyati. Which is not the case. | [[Biyatismic]] temperament is inspired by maqam biyati, so it is good that it references that in the name. What's not good is that the name makes it sound like it is the exact same thing as maqam biyati. The name makes it sound like the temperament generates the original, traditional maqam biyati. Which is not the case. | ||
Biyatismic temperament would score 5 stars instead of 1 if it were named something | Biyatismic temperament would score 5 stars instead of 1 if it were named something that better communicated "this is not the same thing as maqam biyati, but it was inspired by maqam biyati". | ||
'''Possible alternative names: biyatesque, biyamatic, biyatonical, biyatilike''' | |||
==== Maqamic ==== | ==== Maqamic ==== | ||
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It is not fair for this temperament to call itself maqamic, because it doesn't actually generate maqamat. It generates a new, simpler, different thing based on maqamat. Not actually maqamat. | It is not fair for this temperament to call itself maqamic, because it doesn't actually generate maqamat. It generates a new, simpler, different thing based on maqamat. Not actually maqamat. | ||
Luckily, the name “maqamic temperament” isn’t in use anymore, and has been replaced with the imperfect, but much much better “neutrominant temperament”. | Luckily, the name “maqamic temperament” isn’t in use anymore, and has been replaced with the imperfect, but much much better “neutrominant temperament”. | ||
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But the reason why it still gets a failing grade is that “pelogic” sounds so close to “pelog” as to give the impression they are the exact same thing, which they are not. The definition implicit in the name “pelogic temperament” is “the regular temperament which generates pelog scales.” And that’s not what it is. It is ''inspired'' by pelog scales, it doesn’t ''make'' them. | But the reason why it still gets a failing grade is that “pelogic” sounds so close to “pelog” as to give the impression they are the exact same thing, which they are not. The definition implicit in the name “pelogic temperament” is “the regular temperament which generates pelog scales.” And that’s not what it is. It is ''inspired'' by pelog scales, it doesn’t ''make'' them. | ||
It would better to have a name that acknowledges being similar but different to pelog, | It would better to have a name that acknowledges being similar but different to pelog. | ||
'''Possible alternative names: pelogmatic, pelogmatical, pelogesque, peloglike, pseudopelog''' | |||
==== Rastmic ==== | ==== Rastmic ==== | ||
[[Rastmic]] temperament is inspired by maqam rast, so it is good that it references that in the name. What's not good is that the name makes it sound like it is the exact same thing as maqam rast. The name makes it sound like the temperament generates the original, traditional maqam rast. Which is not the case. | [[Rastmic]] temperament is inspired by maqam rast, so it is good that it references that in the name. What's not good is that the name makes it sound like it is the exact same thing as maqam rast. The name makes it sound like the temperament generates the original, traditional maqam rast. Which is not the case. | ||
Rastmic temperament would score 5 stars instead of 1 if it were named something | Rastmic temperament would score 5 stars instead of 1 if it were named something that communicates "this is not the same thing as maqam rast, but it was inspired by maqam rast". | ||
'''Possible alternative names: rastmatic, rastmatical, rastlike, rastalike, pseudorast''' | |||
==== Srutal, shrutar, sruti ==== | ==== Srutal, shrutar, sruti ==== | ||
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The issue with these names, is that they are so similar to the word “shruti”, that they imply the tuning is ''identical'' to traditional Indian shruti. Which it is not. These tunings are inspired by shruti, and sound close to shruti, but they are not the ''same'' as shruti. | The issue with these names, is that they are so similar to the word “shruti”, that they imply the tuning is ''identical'' to traditional Indian shruti. Which it is not. These tunings are inspired by shruti, and sound close to shruti, but they are not the ''same'' as shruti. | ||
'''Possible alternative names:''' | |||
* '''zurutal, zurutar, zuruti''' | |||
* '''hutal, hutar, huruti''' | |||
* '''srutalian, shrutarian, srutinian''' | |||
* '''srutalish, shrutish, srutish''' | |||
* '''srutalesque, shrutaresque, srutiesque''' | |||
* '''srutalike, shrutalike, srutilike''' | |||
=== 3 stars (pass) === | === 3 stars (pass) === |