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* It’s fine to explore the 2.3.5.101 [[subgroup]] if you want to. It doesn’t matter that it’s less [[concordant]] than 2.3.5.7. Explore it anyway and see what happens. Do some stuff with [[:Category:Novelties|arbitrary numbers]] that don’t make logical sense and just see what comes of it. That’s where the fun is!

* I would prefer to use a temperament [[Temperament naming|named]] something fun like “waterslide” or “jinglebells” even if it has lots of error, over one named something dry and bland like “countertrihexakleismatic” even if it’s super [[damage|accurate]] and technically [[badness|better]] - a bland name can kill a temperament’s appeal, a fun name can create appeal out of nothing.

* Most of the ‘mathematically best options’ in music tuning that can be found, have already been found. We 2020s [[:Category:Theorists|theorists]] missed out on the initial [[RTT]] gold rush of the 1990s and 2000s, so we’re not ever going to discover low-[[badness]] temperaments in the full [[5-limit]], [[7-limit]] or [[11-limit]], we were born too late to explore those. But we were born just in time to explore more niche, out-of-left-field things. The 90s/00s theorists built the fundamental bedrock. Our job now is decorate its edges with interesting little edge cases and offshoots, be those things like higher limit extensions, no-n subgroup temperaments, dual-n subgroup temperaments, anything like that. Their job in 1990-2010 was to ask “what are the most concordant tunings possible?”. Our job in 2020-2040 is to ask “if we take one of those concordant temperaments and do this to it, what happens? Is it still useable? Is it interesting?”

* For those who are interested in making more major discoveries than that, though, the fields that are still wide open are [[just intonation]] and [[equal-step tuning]]s.

** There probably are JI scales out there that are very very consonant, and also xenharmonic at the same time, that no one has ever found yet. There are so many approaches to JI, from [[primodality]] to [[combination product set]]s and so on, and most of them have been barely scratched at all in terms of discovering techniques to approach each of the tunings generated with that method. JI right now in 2024 is wide open in the same was RTT was in 1990.

** When it comes to equal tunings, most of the consonant ones have been ''found'' already, but most of them haven’t been ''explored''. Imagine all the consonant scales that might exist as subsets of medium to large [[EDO]]s, [[EDT]]s and [[EDF]]s, subsets that no one has found yet. Because how do you even start sifting through hundreds and thousands of possible subsets to find the good ones? Well that’s your job, theorist :) Again, I feel equal tunings are as wide open in 2024 as RTT was in 1990. One of you reading this might very well name a scale that’s as important to some equal tuning as the major scale is to [[12edo]].

* All the above really only applies to theorists. ''[[:Category:Musicians|Musicians]]'' and ''[[composer]]s'' definitely don’t have anything to worry about in terms of chances to break new ground. Most of those awesome temperaments that were found in the 2000s, have barely ever been used. For every single tuning documented on this wiki - RTT ones, JI ones, ET ones - they are ''all'' totally unexplored in terms of actually making actual music with them. So if you’re a musician or composer, the world’s your oyster. Literally pick any tuning on this wiki and make music with it, and you will be breaking major new ground.

* Similarly, there is still a huge wide open field of possibilities for [[software]] and [[instruments]]. Every single tuning on this wiki - be it RTT, JI or ET - is in major need of software and instruments. So developers and manufacturers have a huge opportunity to make a seriously big splash in the world of every corner of musical tuning.

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 * It’s fine to explore the 2.3.5.101 [[subgroup]] if you want to. It doesn’t matter that it’s less [[concordant]] than 2.3.5.7. Explore it anyway and see what happens. Do some stuff with [[:Category:Novelties|arbitrary numbers]] that don’t make logical sense and just see what comes of it. That’s where the fun is!
 * I would prefer to use a temperament [[Temperament naming|named]] something fun like “waterslide” or “jinglebells” even if it has lots of error, over one named something dry and bland like “countertrihexakleismatic” even if it’s super [[damage|accurate]] and technically [[badness|better]] - a bland name can kill a temperament’s appeal, a fun name can create appeal out of nothing.
-* Most of the ‘mathematically best options’ in music tuning that can be found, have already been found. We 2020s [[:Category:Theorists|theorists]] missed out on the initial [[RTT]] gold rush of the 1990s and 2000s, so we’re not ever going to discover low-[[badness]] temperaments in the full [[5-limit]], [[7-limit]] or [[11-limit]], we were born too late to explore those. But we were born just in time to explore more niche, out-of-left-field things. The 90s/00s theorists built the fundamental bedrock. Our job now is decorate its edges with interesting little edge cases and offshoots, be those things like higher limit extensions, no-n subgroup temperaments, dual-n subgroup temperaments, anything like that. Their job in 1990-2010 was to ask “what are the most concordant tunings possible?”. Our job in 2020-2040 is to ask “if we take one of those concordant temperaments and do this to it, what happens? Is it still useable? Is it interesting?”
-* For those who are interested in making more major discoveries than that, though, the fields that are still wide open are [[just intonation]] and [[equal-step tuning]]s.
-** There probably are JI scales out there that are very very consonant, and also xenharmonic at the same time, that no one has ever found yet. There are so many approaches to JI, from [[primodality]] to [[combination product set]]s and so on, and most of them have been barely scratched at all in terms of discovering techniques to approach each of the tunings generated with that method. JI right now in 2024 is wide open in the same was RTT was in 1990.
-** When it comes to equal tunings, most of the consonant ones have been ''found'' already, but most of them haven’t been ''explored''. Imagine all the consonant scales that might exist as subsets of medium to large [[EDO]]s, [[EDT]]s and [[EDF]]s, subsets that no one has found yet. Because how do you even start sifting through hundreds and thousands of possible subsets to find the good ones? Well that’s your job, theorist :) Again, I feel equal tunings are as wide open in 2024 as RTT was in 1990. One of you reading this might very well name a scale that’s as important to some equal tuning as the major scale is to [[12edo]].
-* All the above really only applies to theorists. ''[[:Category:Musicians|Musicians]]'' and ''[[composer]]s'' definitely don’t have anything to worry about in terms of chances to break new ground. Most of those awesome temperaments that were found in the 2000s, have barely ever been used. For every single tuning documented on this wiki - RTT ones, JI ones, ET ones - they are ''all'' totally unexplored in terms of actually making actual music with them. So if you’re a musician or composer, the world’s your oyster. Literally pick any tuning on this wiki and make music with it, and you will be breaking major new ground.
-* Similarly, there is still a huge wide open field of possibilities for [[software]] and [[instruments]]. Every single tuning on this wiki - be it RTT, JI or ET - is in major need of software and instruments. So developers and manufacturers have a huge opportunity to make a seriously big splash in the world of every corner of musical tuning.
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